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Sure, resize the windows. Then when you're done, open something that isn't IE, like Chrome for instance.
Is there really a need to go further?
I can't edit.
You can also try opening IE in Metro and taking it to the desktop and see what happens to your IE (hint: it'll close your Metro session and start a desktop session because they're not the same IE).
Challenge: Open a worthwhile metro application...
Challenge: Open a worthwhile metro application...
The Metro sidebar you have acts as a ticker and doesn't interact with your desktop. That was my point. I know you can't do these things which is why I'm asking you to do them in the first place.
Again, Metro and the desktop don't mingle unless you dedicate an entire screen to Metro or part of the screen to Metro. You can't resize the windows and you can't transition your apps from one to the other without losing what you were doing.
lol, I see what you did there.
Exactly!!!
But they're coming... ... ... ... ... ...
They should have included at least one useful something in the betas... It's all RSS feeds and ad filled junkware... If they have all these amazing things... Why not release one to get people attached to the Metro store?
Why is everyone having such a fit over using metro and desktop apps at the same time? Is there something i'm not seeing that everyone else is? I seem to be using my metro apps just fine along side w/e desktop app im using. I haven't run into any issues or crashes. Obviously I have to jump to the metro menu to open a metro app, but isn't that common sense? Not really that hard to press the windows key and launch an app.....
The Metro sidebar you have acts as a ticker and doesn't interact with your desktop. That was my point. I know you can't do these things which is why I'm asking you to do them in the first place.
Again, Metro and the desktop don't mingle unless you dedicate an entire screen to Metro or part of the screen to Metro. You can't resize the windows and you can't transition your apps from one to the other without losing what you were doing.
Your statement is somewhat false. I can interact with metro apps just fine while they are in there side bar configuration. I don't need to pull the metro app out to full screen just to use it. Also how are you losing what you were doing when you transition apps? When you switch to another app it doesn't completely close the one you were working in. So whats the issue?
Nono, you lose what you're doing if you use an application in Metro that has a desktop counterpart and vice versa. IE is a perfect example of this. If you open IE in Metro (Metro IE) but want to take it to the desktop you'll lose what you were doing on Metro and it'll open a fresh IE (desktop IE).
The side bar configuration is locked. If a Metro app can't fit in a side bar, lots of text or something, it can't be resized evenly to match the desktop app whereas the desktop app can be moved around.
The point was that it's two operating systems bolted together that won't intermingle and won't open each other's applications. Metro, a tablet OS, and the desktop as the traditional OS.
Wait, I don't think Ive seen anything with ads in it. On the other hand I haven't opened many apps either.
Nono, you lose what you're doing if you use an application in Metro that has a desktop counterpart and vice versa. IE is a perfect example of this. If you open IE in Metro (Metro IE) but want to take it to the desktop you'll lose what you were doing on Metro and it'll open a fresh IE (desktop IE).
The side bar configuration is locked. If a Metro app can't fit in a side bar, lots of text or something, it can't be resized evenly to match the desktop app whereas the desktop app can be moved around.
The point was that it's two operating systems bolted together that won't intermingle and won't open each other's applications. Metro, a tablet OS, and the desktop as the traditional OS.
The point was that it's two operating systems bolted together that won't intermingle and won't open each other's applications. Metro, a tablet OS, and the desktop as the traditional OS.
Open the games/music/video ones. Theres ads everywhere... The gmes one has ads for xbox games... the music one has ads for music before your own. Same with the video.
You can't lay them side by side unless you do it ticker style (or sidebar, whatever you want to call it). You also can't open a Metro app with a desktop app counterpart and transition between the two <~~ that's the big one. Those apps under Metro and under desktop will behave differently and will also have different options. For certain configuration options you'll get kicked out of the Metro interface and you're forced to use the desktop (certain control panel options, for example).
It's two operating systems. They won't use each other's applications because they can't. Metro can't start desktop apps and the desktop can't start Metro apps. If it were one seamless operating systems you wouldn't have two sets of completely different applications (which behave differently. You can't even close them the same way...)
It's not even a single shared kernel. There are two different kernels, meaning you'll get "Metro updates" and "desktop updates" for every windows update. Granted, they won't label it as such. They'll just say "Windows updates" but you know they're lying
I'm a desktop and gaming enthusiast and I plan on upgrading to Windows 8. The desktop is vastly improved with a lot of under the hood upgrades made to it that I feel it's definitely worth upgrading to. Not least of which to get the ability to use Storage Pools which is basically Drive Extender but not buggy as hell.
Explain that then. Metro is nothing more than a full-screen start page. I use it as such and it works fantastically. The desktop is not only just as good, it's also better from my usage of it.
Having a different interface does not mean Win8 is not a "desktop OS". It's laughable since Win8 still has a standard windows desktop available. Is Openbox or AWESOME on Linux not a desktop OS because there are no desktop icons? People were threatening to switch to Linux when XP's interface was a tiny bit different from 98s, they did the same with Vista when it again changed a tiny bit, it always happens. While Metro is different for us advanced users it is a good thing for the computer illiterates out there that make up the vast majority of Windows users.
You can do nearly everything on XP that you can do on 7. So why upgrade to 7? Win8 has core enhancements past the metro skin. There is better CPU scheduling (which the Bulldozer fans were wanting), faster boot times, better support for new devices, and all of the other standard feature upgrades that come with a new version of Windows. There is nothing that makes Win8 unsuitable for enthusiasts and gamers. If you had used Win8 you would know this.
As far as the EULA; I find it funny that both Valve and EA have been known to take entire game collections away from users for things as simple as forum posts or sharing their account but they're the angels in this scenario when MS to my knowledge has never attempted to take anything but pirated software from their userbase in the past.
This is less of an issue IMHO than Google having the right to look at everything you do on their services and devices; yet the [H] crowd loves them.
When was the last time you had any issues with NTFS? Seriously? I understand file system improvements on a server but on the desktop...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_2012
ReFS originates from Windows Server 2012.
Then there's this gem:
You can't lay them side by side unless you do it ticker style (or sidebar, whatever you want to call it). You also can't open a Metro app with a desktop app counterpart and transition between the two <~~ that's the big one. Those apps under Metro and under desktop will behave differently and will also have different options. For certain configuration options you'll get kicked out of the Metro interface and you're forced to use the desktop (certain control panel options, for example).
It's two operating systems. They won't use each other's applications because they can't. Metro can't start desktop apps and the desktop can't start Metro apps. If it were one seamless operating systems you wouldn't have two sets of completely different applications (which behave differently. You can't even close them the same way...)
You're launching a Metro application from the desktop. Start a Metro application from the desktop and see where it takes you. If your answer isn't Metro then you're not using windows 8.
You're mixing up "launching" with "using." I said start and I guess you meant launch, but to clarify I meant start and use. You can launch an application from desktop or Metro, but it will only go where it belongs, whether Metro or the desktop. Then there's the rare instance where you have two choices of the same application, essentially two different applications that behave differently, have different options yet they should be the same application (but they're not).
Metro can start desktop apps because its the START menu. The desktop can start Metro apps cause theyre in the START menu. You also keep bringing up how you cant run two of the same type of apps. Is there a reason why you would need to do this? If so couldn't you go online and open up multiple browser tabs to get your daily fix of whatever news, social, whatever app of the day feeds you? Or do you need the same game going on multiple times? Im kind of confused on this. Oh and of course youll get kicked out of the start menu when you open control panel,lol.
That makes complete sense that they open in there respective interfaces.
So basically, their "server only" file system took away every single feature that was useful for servers.
Metro is not the start menu. Metro is its own operating system but also encompasses the start menu. You're the one who's confused here, not me.
To prove this, here's another simple test you'll fail to do because it's two separate operating systems. Download, install and start Izarc. It's a pretty good winrar/winzip equivalent that handles a whole slew of various file types. When you've installed it, open it however you want but you must use it in Metro. Tell me what happens.
It only makes sense if you're aware that it's two operating systems bolted together. You keep dancing around my point, claiming I'm wrong then proving I'm right, admitting I'm right, then saying what's the big deal? Well...I dunno, you tell me? Why were you so adamantly claiming I was wrong?
Yep. The encryption tools notwithstanding. Granted, you'll get better encryption via third-party programs anyway. They've been losing the server game for years now, it isn't surprising.
Lets see, um.... because it's a START MENU not an operating system. Why the hell would I try and use an application in a start menu???
Poor pelo. lol