Intel 64, Family 6, Model 158, Stepping 12.... Is more Software mitigation than hardware (which is the group of 9 Series processors I use). Furthermore the Coffee Lake Processors that have the mitigations in them are only Intel64 Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 12 & Intel64 Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 11 (which aren't even the desktop processors we use) That data is from May 14th, 2019 from Intel directly. You can look it up yourself. Relying on OS patching and BIOS patching than actually correcting the flaws in the actual silicon. If this currently reported security vulnerability is any indication, Intel knew about today's issue over a year ago and said nothing about it, nor did they bother to roll out the patches in Microcode & Software in advance... Why is that? Because it all slows their processors down. Most of these issues are so serious they would require Intel to completely redesign their processors and they're not going to do that. The way they work they might as well flush Hyperthreading down the toilet. They're not going to do that either. What corporation doesn't outright lie to their customers? Honestly, what world are you living in? Everyone does this. I use whatever processor suits my needs the best. I'm not just pointing the finger solely at Intel here. I am simply stating that the impact of hardware level mitigation would suck the life out of Intel's lineup when compared to AMD's upcoming product stack. That being said, both AMD and Intel have lied to their customers before on numerous occasions. Nvidia does it, Walmart does it, every car company does it, our legislators do it, most of the women I have dated do it, most the men and women I know do it, etc. Now getting to rebuilding that image... If Intel actually delivers a product that doesn't bend it's clientele over a table without asking permission or kissing them first... We will have to wait and see about that. Intel's image enhancement hasn't been impacted by much of shit as of lately. People like Kyle are probably working their asses off fighting their way through years of corporate bullshit and attempting to dilute it enough to actually effect that kind of change. Just because a company says they're going to do something doesn't instantaneously make them the shining paragon of the entire industry. Change takes time. People take years to change and at a corporate level Intel will not be so different than that.