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ultimately DENIED

"A goodly amount of AMD graphics chips were procured, and this of course raised the interest of AMD. When AMD inquired about who these chips were for, the manufacturer told them that it was for BFG. AMD responded that BFG was not an authorized partner, and they would not be allowed to sell AMD based graphics boards."

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=982

some times it is too late to get help from the other side

RIP BFG
 
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Wait... Traffic Cop was real?

I only first heard of it and saw a pic the other day... My impression was that it was just a f-ing joke...

Well, f-ing joke either way...
 
maxius said:
some times it is too late to get help from the other side

RIP BFG
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Well, AMD already accepted this:

then it could very well likely have saved the company for a few more quarters
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BFG was going to die anyway. AMD wasn't going to let them make their cards then just... go away, leaving customers feeling scammed with AMD cards...
 
Tolyngee said:
Well, AMD already accepted this:



BFG was going to die anyway. AMD wasn't going to let them make their cards then just... go away, leaving customers feeling scammed with AMD cards...
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i feel that when nvidia's loyal partners started to jump ship BFG should of jumped with them, but they stood on a sinking ship mystified at the water rising around them.

i think the MAIN problem with BFG is they tried to position its self as the next voodoopc/alienware but that was just not in the cards.
 
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damn that sucks for that manufacturing company but in the end it could actually benefit them.. ya never know if sapphire or diamond or maybe XFX will end up using them to manufacture cards for them..
 
Tolyngee said:
BFG was going to die anyway. AMD wasn't going to let them make their cards then just... go away, leaving customers feeling scammed with AMD cards...
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This makes perfect sense +1

maxius said:
i feel that when nvidia's loyal partners started to jump ship BFG should of jumped with them, but they stood on a sinking ship mystified at the water rising around them.
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Only XFX jumped ship, and only because AMD allowed them (and ONLY them) too. They didn't want new partners competing with their long-time loyal partners.
 
cesium666 said:
This makes perfect sense +1



Only XFX jumped ship, and only because AMD allowed them (and ONLY them) too. They didn't want new partners competing with their long-time loyal partners.
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i have a feeling AMD knew something was up with BFG before anyone else which is also why they probably didnt let them jump ship.. but i agree the competition factor was a part of it as well..
 
I have my doubts about the story.

It may be a fake BFG card, I know that there are several fake Asus and MSI cards sold in china, we could very well add BFG to the list.

The logo is not the official BFG logo.

AFAIK all BFG cards were built by foxconn, who also makes AMD cards for other vendors.
 
dandragonrage said:
So can Intel... oh wait, no they can't!
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Puhlease, that was not the issue with the recent lawsuits and you (should) know it. It had to do with *how* Intel was selling those chips, ie. rebates, kickbacks, under-the-table-cocksuckery, whatever you call it, not *who*.
 
cesium666 said:
:confused: AMD can decide to sell chips to whoever the fuck they want.
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They'd already sold the chips. The chips were already in the possession of the manufacturer (the product was going into the final packaging already according to the article) This is them saying after the sale of the chips had already happened - "Hey, who are these going to? Oh wait...they aren't allowed to sale boards using our chips." It's like Dell selling you a computer, you decide to sale it to a friend after a year and somehow Dell finds out and demands you not be allowed to sell it because who knows if you've done something to it that might hurt Dell's image in the eyes of the buyer.
 
Ualdayan said:
They'd already sold the chips. The chips were already in the possession of the manufacturer (the product was going into the final packaging already according to the article) This is them saying after the sale of the chips had already happened - "Hey, who are these going to? Oh wait...they aren't allowed to sale boards using our chips." It's like Dell selling you a computer, you decide to sale it to a friend after a year and somehow Dell finds out and demands you not be allowed to sell it because who knows if you've done something to it that might hurt Dell's image in the eyes of the buyer.
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IF the story is true, and I have my doubts, you have to be a certified partner (or whatever AMD wants to call it) to be able to sell AMD products under your name. The same is true for nvidia, as a matter of fact BFG is still listed as a board parter in nvidia's page.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/pf_boardpartners.html
 
Ualdayan said:
They'd already sold the chips. The chips were already in the possession of the manufacturer (the product was going into the final packaging already according to the article) This is them saying after the sale of the chips had already happened - "Hey, who are these going to? Oh wait...they aren't allowed to sale boards using our chips." It's like Dell selling you a computer, you decide to sale it to a friend after a year and somehow Dell finds out and demands you not be allowed to sell it because who knows if you've done something to it that might hurt Dell's image in the eyes of the buyer.
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yeah, but i'm sure the chinese manufacturer wants to be in AMD's good books(or they wont get any more hardware from AMD).
 
Ualdayan said:
They'd already sold the chips. The chips were already in the possession of the manufacturer (the product was going into the final packaging already according to the article) This is them saying after the sale of the chips had already happened - "Hey, who are these going to? Oh wait...they aren't allowed to sale boards using our chips." It's like Dell selling you a computer, you decide to sale it to a friend after a year and somehow Dell finds out and demands you not be allowed to sell it because who knows if you've done something to it that might hurt Dell's image in the eyes of the buyer.
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Except... its not anything like that. BFG is the end consumer, but China Comany AZB or whatever is the manufactor for prob many other companies. AMD sells to them all the time I'm sure, but noticed they had just filled and abnormally large order, asks them who is it going to? They tell them truthfully "BFG" and they respond, "BFG is not authorized, stop your shipment to them or we refuse to sell to you ever again". in not so many words

Ultimately, they COULD verywell have shipped it off to bfg, but they would of ruined their relationship with ATi which is more important than their relationship with one(of MANY) clients they have. They TRIED to talk to BFG and get them to clear things up with ATi so they could ship the final product to BFG, but by this time BFG had gone belly up.
 
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Stoly said:
Enlight me, who made BFG cards?
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All reference cards are typically Flextronics. After Nvidia goes "virtual", a number of manufacturers can be used. For BFG, it used to be Galaxy. Then later it was Chaintech, ECS, Biostar, PC Partner.... depends on who can make what, how well it performed and for what cost.

Foxconn was the company that made all of the Nvidia reference motherboards (BFG, Evga, XFX). Foxconn might have made some graphics cards in the past, but I don't know when and which cards.
 
It's still way too bad..........who ever made the cards, BFG was a stout brand and my personal favorite since day one.

It is painful to see a good company go to ground.
 
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