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BFG 7800GTX problems

Well the suckah froze again last night, while running on the XP installed raptor..

farq

What happened was the game i was playing went slow mo for about 5 seconds then froze and the sound went all weird then nothing.

Just a frozen screen.

Maybe soundcard.... maybe video card... maybe motherboard..maybe some obscure bios setting that needs to be changed for everything to bloody work... so so so annoying.
 
Try going into your control panel for your soundcard and lower your hardware acceleration. I recently played sniper elite, and the game kept crashing on me, with the sound making weird noises and looping. I thought it was my overclock, but even at stock speeds I had the same problem. I lowered the hardware acceleration for the sound card down to "basic acceleration" and all my problems went away (played the game for about 4 hours without a hitch). I think people forget to realize that although gaming puts a big stress on the video card, it's also using your sound card a lot too. Also, don't forget that BF2 itself is full of bugs.
 
[F8]:
Mate, the game that crashed on me was sniper elite... LOL so maybe its just the game hey... maybe i shouldnt chalk that one up to a normal freeze.. maybe.

I might give that soundcard drivers a shot.
The audio console... is that the little blue icon down in the system tray that lets you control the speakers and audio levels? I can only even get that to appear using the drivers cd and install the console from there. The audio console from teh website only even gives me a basically look (although with all the same features) audio console... which I can only acces thru the start menu.
 
Yeah, I miss the old icon in systray to change speakers and stuff, although it takes about the same amount of time to use the audio console. Definately lower sound acceleration for that game, check the readme:

3. Troubleshooting:
------------------------

In case of audio problems, try reducing the hardware acceleration on
your sound card. This can be done by opening the Control Panel from
the Start Menu. Double-click on "Sounds And Audio Devices" (this may
be listed as "Sounds and Multimedia" under earlier versions of Windows).
Select Audio and click on the Advanced button in the Sound Playback section.
Click on performance. Drag the slider called Hardware Acceleration towards
the left. Click on Ok. Try reducing the acceleration a step at a time until
the audio problem disappears.

Known Issues:
-------------

1) Issue:
On some systems with Windows XP and a Creative SoundBlaster Live!
sound card, there may be occasional sound corruption. The user will hear
continuous white noise.

Workaround:
Set the sound card Hardware Acceleration to "None", as described above.
 
hmm ok, might give that a shot then.

Do you reckon getting one of the new X-FI cards would make any difference?

So i think i willl just scratch up last nights freeze during sniper elite as a game bug and not a system freeze like what i was experience before hand.

Hopefully things will stay that way.
 
Also, is your bios up to date to support the dual core, and is windows detecting it as dual core, make sure in device manager under "Computer" it says ACPI Multiprocessor PC"
 
yeah man, im pretty nerdy when it comes to cmoputers... lol
So all those bases are fully covered.
Bios is updated on motherboard and video card. Reinstalled XP only last week, was using win2k before that (still had freezing back then as well) Using latest drivers for everything.

Yeah i use the machine for 3d rendering so if XP wasnt picking up the 2nd core i would definitly know about it.. hehe.

When i installed the new cpu (the X2, previously was 3000+) i had to tell windows2k that it was a MP cpu now. As it was still only detecting 1 core. But using Xp now, it sorted it self out during the install (as it should)
 
Tried the sound card in a different pci slot? What were you doing in windows when the machine locked up? What version of nforce chipset are you running? Are you using the IDE drivers from nvidia or the ones from MS?
 
Well because i have the SLI board i only have 2 PCI slots and the other one is taken up by my PCI IDE controller card. I gues i could try swapping them.

Well basically the machine has only ever locked up in games, only like one in windows when i was trying to burn a DVD. ALl other times... more than 20 now, has been in game.
And its not repetitive.. sometimes i can play a certani game for hours with no lock up, and then next day it will lock up once then after reboot will be fine, sometimes it wil lock up twice.. or not at all.

Given that im using an X2 cpu which is socket 939, its a Nforce4 chipset.
And im using the MS ide drivers, i have heard in many places thats its NOT a good idea to use the nforce IDE drivers.
 
I would point the finger at the sound card before the video card. Creative labs doesn't make the best drivers.
 
yeah 'tis entriely true. Well i will load up some of my favourite games... (read the ones that used to freeze my machine lots)... mainly fable, and splinter cell chaos theory. and give it a good stress test and see what happens if it locks up i will try the different drivers for the sound card, then failing that i will take it out and use the onboard, and if it still crashes will try to replace the Video card.
Strangly enough BF2... has never locked up.
 
damn it.... that sucks.

im still crash free on the xp reinstall.
havnt played a HUGE amount of games yet.. but still a good few hours.
 
Uninstalled and took the soundcard out and played alittle bit of BF2, it didn't freeze but then again I didn't play it for a very long time (Hour and a half). And DoD:S doesn't work after I removed the soundcard (None of the HL games works) always get a memory error :/
 
If it makes you feel any better (FYI - this post has NOTHING to help you solve your problem, if you want to stop reading) I've gone through 2 systems, i'm on my third that are exact matches to my sig (and tomorrow morning, my intel 840/dual 7800gtx/2gb ram monster is supposed to be on my doorstep, along with his friendly dell 2405fpw), the first one was taken out within days of being built, I had somewhat of a pool get together, and about halfway through came up to my room and was sitting on a towel on my bed, when one of my super attractive lady friends (they're ALL super attractive of course :D ) came in, and sat down soaking wet on my big ol' box, i didn't think about it until this "pap!" noise and a little puff of smoke, water had run all down into the case... dead computer. I ordered replacement parts that night, and had it there a few days later, and started having a stuttering problem similar to what you guys are describing within about a week, so I tried to fix it, I had been trying tons of stuff for hours and hours, it got on to about 4am and I was reading about dvd drives maybe causing it, without thinking about it (the case was on it's side, open, but running), i unplugged the power to the dvd drive, and tapped around for a bit on the computer, and thought "oops, i should have shut down first" (nothing had actually happened at that point), so, being the sleepy and intelligent individual that i am, went to plug the power back in, about 1/2 a cm away from being plugged in, you could see the spark jump from the poewr to the optical drive, computer shut off, never came back on - tested every last component in another computer (that I could atleast), all dead, ordered replacement parts - 3rd one worked perfect, total wasted money was about 15 grand, so - your problems could be worse, you could be an idiot like me.
 
WOW.... suddenly i dont feel so bad... LOL just kidding.

back luck mate, so a hot chick zapped your puter huh... better have got some action out of it. ... :cool:

So why did you choose the intel 840 over an X2?
The intel's current dual core chips are rather average IMO
 
DaForce said:
WOW.... suddenly i dont feel so bad... LOL just kidding.

back luck mate, so a hot chick zapped your puter huh... better have got some action out of it. ... :cool:

So why did you choose the intel 840 over an X2?
The intel's current dual core chips are rather average IMO
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To be honest, I haven't had an intel chip in a while, and I was just kind of curious, also - I'm.. well, anal - about stuff matching, and I wanted to play with a 2405fpw, and if i have a dell monitor, i want a dell computer, i sold the XPS i used to have (on these forums actually), and figured what the heck, i'd give an XPS 600 a home, try out intel's dual core, some SLI goodness, and ordered it with a terabyte of storage space, whenever i get around to building my next pc (I'll probably jump on an AMD dual core FX whenever that happens), this one will live the rest of it's life in the rafters of my 'theater' room, hooked up to a projector and will be the HTPC/file server.

But to answer your question, there was no specific reason other than boredom and curiousity, and yeah - a hot chick zapped one into oblivion, but of COURSE she didn't have to do anything to make it up! I mean for christs sake, she's only 16!! ;) ;) ;)
 
Ahh ok so you got dell. Fair enough, i dont think Dell deal with X2's anyway.
Well basically the dual core intels were not very well made they are basically 2 cpus stuck together, no integration whatsoever. they cant even communicate directly with each other. They have to go thru teh FSB to communicate between themselves. Whereas the X2's is a properly intergrated dual core CPU.

But having said all that the Intels still perform reasonable well. :)

Only 16 huh..... just means you gotta pay her to be quiet... LOL.. J/K of COURSE!!!

:D
 
CJMRDC said:
If it makes you feel any better (FYI - this post has NOTHING to help you solve your problem, if you want to stop reading) I've gone through 2 systems, i'm on my third that are exact matches to my sig (and tomorrow morning, my intel 840/dual 7800gtx/2gb ram monster is supposed to be on my doorstep, along with his friendly dell 2405fpw), the first one was taken out within days of being built, I had somewhat of a pool get together, and about halfway through came up to my room and was sitting on a towel on my bed, when one of my super attractive lady friends (they're ALL super attractive of course :D ) came in, and sat down soaking wet on my big ol' box, i didn't think about it until this "pap!" noise and a little puff of smoke, water had run all down into the case... dead computer..
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Man.. she better have gave you "some" after that!!! ;)
 
Just an update, still no crashes yet after the fresh Xp install on the new Raptor.

Have played quite a few hours of quake4 and fear. Not to meantion many hours of battlefield2, Brothers in Arms Earn in blood, and serious sam2
Running perfectly so far

Fingers Crossed
 
Well had another lock up today. Only my 2nd on since using XP.

Was playing Call of duty 2 while burning a DVD in teh background. The game started to lag and the sound was all shuddery then it froze, whole ordeal lasted about 1-2seconds.
Had to hit the ol' power switch.

I still have a funny feeling its something to do with one of my DVD drives.

Anyone else found a fix or something?
 
Well, I swapped the GTX with my 6600GT (Which I sould've done a long time ago) and I haven't had a freeze. I played CoD 2 for some amount of time.
 
Yeah well i have played about 6 hours of COD2 without a freeze, and over 20 hours of other games without any freezes.

So, it seems ALOT less that it used to be on the old win2k system. But it has only lockup a few times on my. Once while playing sniper elite, but as said before was mostly likely a sound issue. Once while burning a CD and playing COD2, and once while listening to MP3's and messing around in combustion, was playing with particle effects.

So not really sure what to make of it. Will try the new nvidia drivers which are now multithreaded and see if that helps my problem, but as annoying as it is currently its livable.
Mainly cause i cant be assed being without a computer for a week or 2 while i get parts exchanged/RMA'ed.
 
I had another freeze, but wadda'ya know, I opened and closed the DVD-Drive and BAMM! I managed to alt-tab out of the game (Which I think was still frozen)

There is some wierd shit going on but I have no idea what it is, it's so annoying :mad:
 
After I switched motherboards, VNF4 to AN8 SLI, I experienced frequent crashes when gaming. Took me a year and a day to figure out what was going on... after the switch, I remembered to OC everything like I had it on the VNF4, but I forgot to turn off the retarded cool 'n quiet!

Turned off. No more crashes. I are happy.
 
SolidFeather:
Cool i had something similar happen awhile ago.
What DVD drive have you got? and is it a burner?

I just recently changed my burner, and have also had my DVD-ROM unplugged for quite some time, no crashes yet with about 8 hours of COD2 play under my belt, plus various other games.... stupid dvd drive!!

SPARTAN VI:
Yeah I already got that crap disabled.... it was by default.
 
ah k, cool

so when you were able to alt tab out, did you get back full controll of the pc or did you stilll have to restart?
 
DaForce said:
ah k, cool

so when you were able to alt tab out, did you get back full controll of the pc or did you stilll have to restart?
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Full control.

EDIT: Got an e-mail from BFGTech support (finally)

We've been seeing a few issues with any fast PCI-e cards on some DFI motherboards lately. As it turns out, you may have a motherboard issue that is only exposed when a card with a very high number of pixel pipelines are open to the system. This card has 920 million vertices/sec. capabilities, where your 6600GT would have roughly a third of that. The issue really is how the system RAM works in relation to the other devices in the system, in particular, the graphics card. If you have the ability to test the 7800GTX in another computer, please do. Preferably, not an identical computer. If you have other system RAM, please try it in this computer. Lastly, if you have conservative settings in the BIOS you can select for the RAM, do that, and try to remove any over-clocking that may be occuring on the system and try the games again. Let me know how all of this turns out.
 
Full control hey... thats cool.
I just got back from a 6 hour lan... and no freezes whatsoever, not sure whats going on but all seems good so far.

Hmm interesting what they say... but im sure some of the people here are not using DFI boards. But it kinda makes sense, but if what they say is true then wouldnt it be more reptitive?? and how would opening the dvdrom drive change anything??

Seem odd to me.
 
Just a little update... since buying a new burner, and not having my old dvd-rom plugged in i have had zero lockups.
Machine has been running perfectly!!!

So i guess that was my problem....hopefully its as easy as that for other peoples.
 
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