Battlefield 3 - Official Thread

[randomhero58]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqHKHlcx_hk&list=UUGJsGwDSH7xQ"]‪Battlefiled 3 - Tank/Metro Gameplay (HD)‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nl6FU-awzw&list=UUGJsGwDSH7xQ"]‪Battlefield 3 - Operation Metro runthrough & Destruction Gameplay (HD)‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Valshistixol]

You seriously are trying to teach me about what an alpha stage of game development means? LOL thanks for the heads up.

I'm talking about the game itself it looked like a jazzed up version of BC2. That is all. No teamwork, no BF2/2142 style of squadmanship etc. Even the dam ugly orange icons over peoples heads in the distance. The UI and the UI over mcoms etc. The game just screamed to me BC3. I'm sorry but it did. I hope I'm wrong believe me. You have NO IDEA what a huge fan of the BF series I am but that doesn't mean I'm going to close my eyes to what I've seen in these gameplay videos so far. It wreeks of BC NOT BF. At least in this game mode. What I want to see is conuest mode on BIG conquest maps with all vehicles. Then I can really get a idea of what we have here.

I don't think you know what an Alpha is.

 

[Savoy]

I don't think you know what an Alpha is.

Ya you're right. My first time ever following a game's development. Teach me.

No more likely I suspect you don't like what I said so you're trying to deflect which is really pretty silly.

 

[WorldExclusive]

Calm down and wait for the game....and if you can't and your too upset that you have to bitch and hate on it...then do it to yourself and go play another game and not play BF3...show the devs with your wallet...not your fellow players with your mouth.

The Purist Trolls always doubt games before release. They haven't even played the game hands-on and they're already in a state of depression.

This is a multiplatform game now, what worked in BF2 may not work in BF3.
DICE has repeatedly said they want BF3 to be more accessible than BF2, that means compromises.

BC2 was successful, why should they change the formula now?

 

[Savoy]

The Purist Trolls always doubt games before release. They haven't even played the game hands-on and they're already in a state of depression.

This is a multiplatform game now, what worked in BF2 will not work in BF3.
DICE has repeatedly said they want BF3 to be more accessible than BF2, that means compromises.

Yes, yes it does and that's exactly what I've seen so far and that's the problem. Heh obviously multiplatform means compromises. We don't want that my friend if we can help it. That's where all the bitching is coming from. The fear of the game being dumbed down because of the consoles.

 

[WorldExclusive]

Yes, yes it does and that's exactly what I've seen so far and that's the problem. Heh obviously multiplatform means compromises. We don't want that my friend if we can help it. That's where all the bitching is coming from. The fear of the game being dumbed down because of the consoles.

I saw it coming when they announced BF3 for consoles. I said, "Atleast we got dedicated support."
The pure gameplay for BF2 was all but gone at that point. I got over it quick because it could have been another well-done BC2 port.

 

[Superhuman]

-No commander
-No battlerecorder
-No commo rose
-No mod tools
-3D spotting a.k.a. built-in wallhack
-Kill cam
-Squad leaders can't issue orders
-4 player squads
-Can't control the distance grenades are thrown
-Smoke nades can't be equipped, must use smoke nade launcher attachment
-No teamplay stats displayed at the end of rounds

Tell me again how the fuck this is the "true sequel" to BF2... The only thing this game has in common with BF2 is 64 players, jets, and prone...features that should be in any BF game by default.

I'm glad I didn't pre-order. If you think there will be major changes to the game by the time it goes gold (which is gonna be in about 10 weeks or so), keep dreaming.


Btw, for those of you arguing about DICE making major changes to the game's features, that certainly is not what this alpha test is for. Straight from the official FAQ:

Question: What is the Battlefield 3 Closed Alpha Trial?

Answer: It is a highly tech focused test period where the main purpose is to do a number of server related tests in preparation for game launch requiring a set amount of players online to ensure the final experience is as much fun and easy as possible.

 

[Wildace]

-3D spotting a.k.a. built-in wallhack
-Kill cam
-Squad leaders can't issue orders

those are easily changed by a server setting.

and you can issue attack and defend orders. press Q when looking at a friendly or enemy flag to tell your squad to attack or defend the flag.

 

[Superhuman]

those are easily changed by a server setting.

I shouldn't have to click on servers one by one until I find one that's playable.

Also, I wouldn't mind 3D spotting if they figured out how to better implement it. But in it's current state, it is a complete noob wallhack feature.

and you can issue attack and defend orders. press Q when looking at a friendly or enemy flag to tell your squad to attack or defend the flag.

I don't need instructions on how to play BC2. Care to explain how I am supposed to issue orders to my squad mates to attack/defend/advance to specific areas of the map?

What is the point of squad leaders in this game btw? It's just a half assed feature they tossed in as fan wank service.

 

[kuyaglen]

What is the point of squad leaders in this game btw? It's just a half assed feature they tossed in as fan wank service.

Too keep your group together.

 

[Savoy]

Too keep your group together.

You don't need a squad leader just to keep your group together. We used to have squad leaders because they actually (go crazy) lead squads, heh ya it's true. They were the ones who issued orders, talked directly to the commander via in game VOIP, stayed back aa bit (hopefully) so that we could keep spawning on him so as to not lose our position. Squad leaders used to make a difference. Not this bullshit dribble in Bc2 where youcan spawn on anyone in your squad a nd just use each other as mobile spawn points which is fucking retarded. No teamwork what so ever hardly anyone works together toward an objective and since in game voip usually doesn't work noone even speaks. Ya squad leaders are only there to keep your squad together ...yep.

 

[kuyaglen]

You don't need a squad leader just to keep your group together. We used to have squad leaders because they actually (go crazy) lead squads, heh ya it's true. They were the ones who issued orders, talked directly to the commander via in game VOIP, stayed back aa bit (hopefully) so that we could keep spawning on him so as to not lose our position. Squad leaders used to make a difference. Not this bullshit dribble in Bc2 where youcan spawn on anyone in your squad a nd just use each other as mobile spawn points which is fucking retarded. No teamwork what so ever hardly anyone works together toward an objective and since in game voip usually doesn't work noone even speaks. Ya squad leaders are only there to keep your squad together ...yep.

Perhaps you should find a more like minded group, cause my squads do all that.

 

[Superhuman]

You don't need a squad leader just to keep your group together. We used to have squad leaders because they actually (go crazy) lead squads, heh ya it's true. They were the ones who issued orders, talked directly to the commander via in game VOIP, stayed back aa bit (hopefully) so that we could keep spawning on him so as to not lose our position. Squad leaders used to make a difference. Not this bullshit dribble in Bc2 where youcan spawn on anyone in your squad a nd just use each other as mobile spawn points which is fucking retarded. No teamwork what so ever hardly anyone works together toward an objective and since in game voip usually doesn't work noone even speaks. Ya squad leaders are only there to keep your squad together ...yep.

This.

 

[FearTheCow]

Hey Savoy, since you hate this unreleased game so much, how about you go find a game you like and play it? You sound like a little bitch to be honest "oh noes, BF3 doeskin have a full command staff that sits off map just giving out orders wahhhhhhhhhhhh".

 

[Savoy]

Hey Savoy, since you hate this unreleased game so much, how about you go find a game you like and play it? You sound like a little bitch to be honest "oh noes, BF3 doeskin have a full command staff that sits off map just giving out orders wahhhhhhhhhhhh".

Hey buddy, just because I'm not riding Dice's sack doesn't mean I hate the game. What are you 12? You don't understand that people can have constructive criticism and still like the game? How about the fact that I already pre ordered the game a long time ago? That enough to make you believe I love BF games? No That's right I need to kiss their ass and question nothing or I'm a hater and should leave am i right? LOL grow up. What I want is a true BF sequel not some made up wanna be BC2 sequel. That's what I want and when I see evidence of that I will relax a bit on the subject.

 

[socK]

You don't need a squad leader just to keep your group together. We used to have squad leaders because they actually (go crazy) lead squads, heh ya it's true. They were the ones who issued orders, talked directly to the commander via in game VOIP, stayed back aa bit (hopefully) so that we could keep spawning on him so as to not lose our position. Squad leaders used to make a difference. Not this bullshit dribble in Bc2 where youcan spawn on anyone in your squad a nd just use each other as mobile spawn points which is fucking retarded. No teamwork what so ever hardly anyone works together toward an objective and since in game voip usually doesn't work noone even speaks. Ya squad leaders are only there to keep your squad together ...yep.

Ok congrats you play with random idiots. My squads were almost always entirely filled with people on mumble. I'd swap squads to shift spawns in my favor and go back so others can spawn on me. Not my fault you can't play.

I shouldn't have to click on servers one by one until I find one that's playable.

Also, I wouldn't mind 3D spotting if they figured out how to better implement it. But in it's current state, it is a complete noob wallhack feature.

You can check which flags the server has enabled fyi.

The developers have literally said they are tweaking things like spotting... and knives... and guns... and vehicles.

 

[rampantandroid]

Ok congrats you play with random idiots. My squads were almost always entirely filled with people on mumble. I'd swap squads to shift spawns in my favor and go back so others can spawn on me. Not my fault you can't play.



You can check which flags the server has enabled fyi.

The developers have literally said they are tweaking things like spotting... and knives... and guns... and vehicles.

You mean you manipulated the system in BC2?

In BC2, I hated that you could spawn on anyone. Made defending so much harder. The spawn points in BF2142 and squad leader spawns made so much more sense.

 

[socK]

You mean you manipulated the system in BC2?

In BC2, I hated that you could spawn on anyone. Made defending so much harder. The spawn points in BF2142 and squad leader spawns made so much more sense.

Yes, and it could work in your favor or against it depending on how you used it. Defending is a lot easier when you have one squad that they absolutely cannot get away from their spawn and is causing a shit storm of comical proportions. You don't have to sit on the point to fuck the other team over. One squad that played smart can be an absolute nightmare to root out.

Also

 

[himmy]

Btw, for those of you arguing about DICE making major changes to the game's features, that certainly is not what this alpha test is for. Straight from the official FAQ:


Question: What is the Battlefield 3 Closed Alpha Trial?

Answer: It is a highly tech focused test period where the main purpose is to do a number of server related tests in preparation for game launch requiring a set amount of players online to ensure the final experience is as much fun and easy as possible.

What are you talking about? The purpose of the test and the feature set are two completely different things. You actually think that the purpose of the test needs to be to find new features to add, and since it does not state that it is therefor feature complete? Too funny.

All this test is for is to test the server client.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Alpha

Again, what does it state in the last sentence for the alpha phase of a software release life cycle?

FYI, I work for a software company. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[himmy]

Hey buddy, just because I'm not riding Dice's sack doesn't mean I hate the game. What are you 12? You don't understand that people can have constructive criticism and still like the game? How about the fact that I already pre ordered the game a long time ago? That enough to make you believe I love BF games? No That's right I need to kiss their ass and question nothing or I'm a hater and should leave am i right? LOL grow up. What I want is a true BF sequel not some made up wanna be BC2 sequel. That's what I want and when I see evidence of that I will relax a bit on the subject.

Constructive criticism? You really think your posts come off as constructive criticism?

DICE has stated over and over this is not BF2 v2. This is BF3. It will be different. Might as well pull the bus over and hop off now, you aren't going to like it if you want BF2 v2.

While I do not like some of the direction(4 man squads for example), none of it is a deal breaker until I play the damn game and see what the actual in game gameplay is like, not what I think it is going to be like on paper.

 

[Plague_Injected]

I think he and others aren't convinced that it's actually an alpha version of the game.

 

[Superhuman]

What are you talking about? The purpose of the test and the feature set are two completely different things. You actually think that the purpose of the test needs to be to find new features to add, and since it does not state that it is therefor feature complete? Too funny.

All this test is for is to test the server client.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Alpha

Again, what does it state in the last sentence for the alpha phase of a software release life cycle?

FYI, I work for a software company. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

Is this post a joke or is your level of reading comprehension actually lower than a middle schooler's?

I very clearly stated that the purpose of this test is to NOT test features, but rather test their servers, even going as far as quoting an official statement from DICE to back my statement.

Learn to read, and may god have mercy on the poor souls who buy whatever software it is your company develops if you are actually involved in the development process.

 

[himmy]

Is this post a joke or is your level of reading comprehension actually lower than a middle schooler's?

I very clearly stated that the purpose of this test is to NOT test features, but rather test their servers, even going as far as quoting an official statement from DICE to back my statement.

Learn to read, and may god have mercy on the poor souls who buy whatever software it is your company develops if you are actually involved in the development process.

My reading comprehension is fine, yours is failing. You clearly state 'for those of you arguing about DICE making major changes to the game's features, that certainly is not what this alpha test is for.' The point is you are using this as a reason why there won't be feature changes, because it is not stated to be for feature changes.

Nice double fail.

 

[Superhuman]

The developers have literally said they are tweaking things like spotting... and knives... and guns... and vehicles.

Hey look at what a great job they've done tweaking spotting!

Hey kids, did you still find it difficult to find enemies and kill them with 3D spotting in BC2? Well, have no fear because now we've made it even easier to kill certain enemies by not only putting a triangle over their head, but also a giant star! You surely can't miss them now!

(Taken from today's new trailer):

That pic makes me wanna puke. You guys seriously think the spotting system working like that is fine? DICE might as well include a built-in aim hack and people won't even need to use 3rd party software for hacks anymore.

 

[Krieger91]

Hey look at what a great job they've done tweaking spotting!

Hey kids, did you still find it difficult to find enemies and kill them with 3D spotting in BC2? Well, have no fear because now we've made it even easier to kill certain enemies by not only putting a triangle over their head, but also a giant star! You surely can't miss them now!

(Taken from today's new trailer):

That pic makes me wanna puke. You guys seriously think the spotting system working like that is fine? DICE might as well include a built-in aim hack and people won't even need to use 3rd party software for hacks anymore.

HC mode? And my guess is that is three guys, the star represents a squad leader.

 

[Superhuman]

My reading comprehension is fine, yours is failing. You clearly state 'for those of you arguing about DICE making major changes to the game's features, that certainly is not what this alpha test is for.' The point is you are using this as a reason why there won't be feature changes, because it is not stated to be for feature changes.

Nice double fail.

Right. I'm trying to tell the people who are saying "oh it's just the alpha build, features can/will change by release" to not get their hopes up. You were questioning my understanding of what this alpha test is for.

There is nothing more to read into in my post. That's it. As Christian Bale would say, what don't you fucking understand?

 

[Superhuman]

HC mode? And my guess is that is three guys, the star represents a squad leader.

So I have to sacrifice my entire HUD and adapt to a different style of gameplay just because the developers aren't willing to fix a broken feature?

Brilliant logic.

 

[Plague_Injected]

3D spotting does need to go, or at least be set to "off" by default in the server options. It's an unnecessary and fairly insulting crutch.

 

[Superhuman]

3D spotting does need to go, or at least be set to "off" by default in the server options. It's an unnecessary and fairly insulting crutch.

I don't think it needs to go, it just needs to be fixed. If they're not gonna change how it functions, then yes, it should be off by default.

 

[himmy]

Right. I'm trying to tell the people who are saying "oh it's just the alpha build, features can/will change by release" to not get their hopes up.

There is nothing more to read into in my post. That's it. As Christian Bale would say, what don't you fucking understand?

Yes, you are. That is why you single those specific people out. If not, there is no reason to even mention them, you just state 'straight from the FAQ, this is what the alpha test is for.'

The best is you post crap like this with your very next post to someone talking about changes:

Hey look at what a great job they've done tweaking spotting!

Hey kids, did you still find it difficult to find enemies and kill them with 3D spotting in BC2? Well, have no fear because now we've made it even easier to kill certain enemies by not only putting a triangle over their head, but also a giant star! You surely can't miss them now!

(Taken from today's new trailer):

That pic makes me wanna puke. You guys seriously think the spotting system working like that is fine? DICE might as well include a built-in aim hack and people won't even need to use 3rd party software for hacks anymore.

 

[Superhuman]

The best is you post crap like this with your very next post to someone talking about changes:

Yes. Let me explain this to you now for the second time. I am pointing out that if these features DICE said they were "tweaking" 6 months ago haven't been tweaked yet, then don't plan on it being tweaked by the time the game goes gold.

In your original response to me, you were questioning my understanding of what this alpha test was for. I called you out on it because clearly you can't comprehend what you read. I stated that this alpha test is to test their servers, which is EXACTLY WHAT YOU STATED IT'S FOR.

I don't know why the fuck you're going off on another tangent. Now excuse me while I go workout. Goodbye.

 

[spaceman]

Easy there guys. This game is sure to piss people off as much as it will make them happy. No Battlefield game has ever been without "issues". Now let us all hold hands and scream for ice cream.

Good night, sleep tight, don't let the drama queens bite?

 

[socK]

Yes. Let me explain this to you now for the second time. I am pointing out that if these features DICE said they were "tweaking" 6 months ago haven't been tweaked yet, then don't plan on it being tweaked by the time the game goes gold.

In your original response to me, you were questioning my understanding of what this alpha test was for. I called you out on it because clearly you can't comprehend what you read. I stated that this alpha test is to test their servers, which is EXACTLY WHAT YOU STATED IT'S FOR.

I don't know why the fuck you're going off on another tangent. Now excuse me while I go workout. Goodbye.

Is 9 days equivalent to 6 months in your world? A dev posted on his twitter that he was tweaking weapons and blah blah he loves real time tweaking of that stuff in real time just 9 days ago.

 

[WorldExclusive]

Easy there guys. This game is sure to piss people off as much as it will make them happy. No Battlefield game has ever been without "issues". Now let us all hold hands and scream for ice cream.

Good night, sleep tight, don't let the drama queens bite?

Agreed. It's a multiplatform game. BF2 core gameplay is gone folks, and BF3 will be better off because of it. A game doesn't have to complex and extremely deep to be a pure PC game.
Die-hard gamers want a excessive commands that will only deter other users. The game isn't being made for one specific group, it's being made for the majority. In BF3, accessibility is paramount.
It has to be a great game first, and I think many people is overlooking that BF3 is a great game. HC on and 3D Spotting off by default isn't going to sell more copies or make it GOTY.

 

[Blackstone]

SHOW ME THE AIRCRAFT ALREADY!

 

[kuyaglen]

Why hasn't anybody yet spotted an enemy boat?

 

[Superhuman]

Is 9 days equivalent to 6 months in your world? A dev posted on his twitter that he was tweaking weapons and blah blah he loves real time tweaking of that stuff in real time just 9 days ago.

My post was directed towards 3D spotting. I should've been more specific.

And Demize has been talking about tweaking spotting since last fall/winter. Looks like they really tweaked it alright!

 

[Crash250f]

Agreed. It's a multiplatform game. BF2 core gameplay is gone folks, and BF3 will be better off because of it. A game doesn't have to complex and extremely deep to be a pure PC game.
Die-hard gamers want a excessive commands that will only deter other users. The game isn't being made for one specific group, it's being made for the majority. In BF3, accessibility is paramount.
It has to be a great game first, and I think many people is overlooking that BF3 is a great game. HC on and 3D Spotting off by default isn't going to sell more copies or make it GOTY.

It will be better in terms of sales due to accessibility clearly, but you have to see why so many people are disappointed in what is to them a downgrade in game mechanics from the last iteration. I think most people expressing negative attitudes fall into this category, and aren't trolling or being too picky or anything.

 

[Flopper]

play it for a week, then its much easier to pass judgement.

 

[himmy]

Yes. Let me explain this to you now for the second time. I am pointing out that if these features DICE said they were "tweaking" 6 months ago haven't been tweaked yet, then don't plan on it being tweaked by the time the game goes gold.

In your original response to me, you were questioning my understanding of what this alpha test was for. I called you out on it because clearly you can't comprehend what you read. I stated that this alpha test is to test their servers, which is EXACTLY WHAT YOU STATED IT'S FOR.

I don't know why the fuck you're going off on another tangent. Now excuse me while I go workout. Goodbye.

No, you are adding this new element. You never once had 'well, if this is somethign DICE has been working on for 6 months'... This was never part of your post, and for a reason: you never thought it, for one second, until you got called out and needed to added an asterix.

My original post was a reply to exactly what you stated.

i am not on a tangent. I am calm and level headed. The only one on going on 'tangents' is you.

What you are is that guy on the internet. What you do is do everything to say something short of flat out saying it, just so you can deny ever saying it or even eluding to it. Its childish and immature.