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Hey guys i just recently built a new rig, 2600k 7970 and 16gb of ram. I had a couple questions about settings, would you try to run all ultra or is there a tweaking guide you guys can point me int he right direction? I think i have texture and land quality set to ultra, everything else is set to high. I have the MSAA off? not sure what the setting effects, AF is set to 16. Sorry for the silly questions but its been a while since i played PC, building a new rig getting back into things as i had it with consoles 
Thanks ahead of time. Also feel free to add me, email is flyguyy03@hotmail account name is Drastix.
Thanks ahead of time. Also feel free to add me, email is flyguyy03@hotmail account name is Drastix.Is scope glint map dependent? I know that some mechanics like MAV being less maneuvarable in CQB maps and IRNV becoming cloudy in others. But does it also apply to the scope glint?
About a month ago a clanmate and i tested out scope glint in Kharg Island, and according to him, i wasn't showing any glint unless i'm actually looking through the scope.
Just last night tho, i tested it again with another clanmate in Metro and according to him, my scope was always lighting up even when i'm just standing, and he even changed to a recon to show me.
Did scope glint change in a patch? Or is the glint always-on in some maps, and scoped-in-only in others? I only thought about the possibility of it being map specific just now so haven't tested it in other maps yet.
About a month ago a clanmate and i tested out scope glint in Kharg Island, and according to him, i wasn't showing any glint unless i'm actually looking through the scope.
Just last night tho, i tested it again with another clanmate in Metro and according to him, my scope was always lighting up even when i'm just standing, and he even changed to a recon to show me.
Did scope glint change in a patch? Or is the glint always-on in some maps, and scoped-in-only in others? I only thought about the possibility of it being map specific just now so haven't tested it in other maps yet.
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The last patch was just some bug fixes. They haven't done any balance changes since like December.
Hey guys i just recently built a new rig, 2600k 7970 and 16gb of ram. I had a couple questions about settings, would you try to run all ultra or is there a tweaking guide you guys can point me int he right direction? I think i have texture and land quality set to ultra, everything else is set to high. I have the MSAA off? not sure what the setting effects, AF is set to 16. Sorry for the silly questions but its been a while since i played PC, building a new rig getting back into things as i had it with consoles
You should be able to run Ultra with that card, but High looks almost exactly the same, so for the sake of good FPS I'd just run all High. You can experiment with either Deferred AA (MSAA) or with Post-processing AA (FXAA). Post-processing is much less graphically demanding, so most people use it - I'd go with Medium for that as High tends to blur the scene a little. But the best thing to do is run Fraps or something and try a few settings until you get it dialed in for what you like.
Just to add some stuff I learned about javelins.
Jets can out run a javelin by maintaining 400+speed. So if they know they have a missile following they can crash the missile into the ground or fly away. ECM also can cause the missile to crash(saw this in a myth buster video on youtube). IR smoke for tanks can also cause the missile to miss however can still hit if close enough.
Settings with my sig rig (cpu is at 4.4 or 4.5). I usually only play 64 man, my low fps dips into the 40s, maybe into the 30's but I don't think I've seen that personally (maybe if it a viper rains missiles on you and you've got rpgs going off, and smoke is up, and you get the idea...) If it's not too crazy where I'm at I'll get around 80ish. I've sat at around 100 on some parts of maps. Also I normally play fullscreen but I couldn't take a fullscreen screenshot for some reason. But like Forceman said, you don't really NEED to run Ultra. High settings look almost exactly the same lol.
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I'm sitting at 27. I've starred all of my assault and support, and I'm half-assed working on engie right now. I'm really working on getting 5 stars with each weapon. Already got it for the m16a3 and the PKP, so I'm just working on down the line. Before I put the game away I'd like to have 5 stars with every weapon (with the exception of sniper rifles, because meh.)
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Settings with my sig rig (cpu is at 4.4 or 4.5). I usually only play 64 man, my low fps dips into the 40s, maybe into the 30's but I don't think I've seen that personally (maybe if it a viper rains missiles on you and you've got rpgs going off, and smoke is up, and you get the idea...) If it's not too crazy where I'm at I'll get around 80ish. I've sat at around 100 on some parts of maps. Also I normally play fullscreen but I couldn't take a fullscreen screenshot for some reason. But like Forceman said, you don't really NEED to run Ultra. High settings look almost exactly the same lol.
Cool thanks man, i'll have to look into overclocking my CPU, i have everything running at stock now. I have a Hanns-g HH281 monitor so i'll probably want to keep v-sync on? Maybe at stock speeds on everything just run it all on high with your settings.
By all means, crank up that CPU. The 2600K is crazy easy to get to ~4.4, and BF3 really responds to higher CPU speeds on high player count maps.
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I have guns from all classes and non-classes as well. Close to getting it with .44 Scoped.
AEK-971
Knife
SCAR-H
PDW-R
M4A1
M416
SG553
PKP
FAMAS
M27
SVD
M16A3
MP7
MG36
AKS-74u
M9 Supp
M249
870MCS
KH2002
SKS
M60
M40
UMP45
M1911 Supp
93R
PP-19
L85
M240B
RPK-74M
G36C
SV98
MK11 MOD 0
G53
G3A3
G17C Supp
F2000
L96
AK-74M
A-91
P90
I leave it off cause I have a 120hz monitor and I've never liked vsync in online fps games too much. Honestly, I'd just throw it on high and call it a day. Medium even looks decent. I just have everything turned up for e-peen with the friends. If I'm really playing seriously I'll turn the settings down a bit to make sure I don't drop under 60, but as it is, it's very playable in busy 64 man servers and even better in lower populated servers.
Yup. I just ran the Asus ezoc or whatever it's called (the one in the bios) and that's what it clocked it to lol. Took all of like 2 minutes and I haven't had a single issue with it.
I'm surprised you run under 60fps. Our systems are very similar, though I'm only on a 920 @ 4.2 instead of a 2600. I never really dip under 70fps, even in heavy smoke/rockets/etc. I have AA turned down to minimum though, so perhaps that's the difference.
Wow really? on stock air? I have the same board as you also. Thanks for the help guys.
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I'm the same way... I'd rather see my 120Hz monitor in action with higher FPS, then have the eye-candy slowing me down
One thing that irks me about BF3 is the amount of passive ways you can get kills. I'd imagine they did this to make the game more noob friendly. Talking about items like the Javelin, mines and claymores. Things that take virtually zero skill to use yet are incredibly powerful. I group the Jav into the "passive" group because it is so laughably easy to use. You might as well put it on an automated mobile firing turret and walk away.
This game would be much better and competitive if these noob items weren't in the game. It's getting to the point that bad players will only use these items the entire game to get kills as they suck at everything else. My favorite is the claymore camping. Really, put an item in the game that promotes protecting camping spots? Brilliant.
This game would be much better and competitive if these noob items weren't in the game. It's getting to the point that bad players will only use these items the entire game to get kills as they suck at everything else. My favorite is the claymore camping. Really, put an item in the game that promotes protecting camping spots? Brilliant.
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I think I've been killed by a claymore exactly once. Hardly anyone uses them because they get spotted so easily. And mines, just don't forget they exist and keep an eye on the road. Helps if you ask your gunner for help spotting them as well.
Javelin don't blow your smoke or ECM too early.
Basically just pay attention and none of those are an issue.
Javelin don't blow your smoke or ECM too early.
Basically just pay attention and none of those are an issue.
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Am I the only one that really tries to use all of the classes evenly? I have at least 300K for each class (lowest is 307,102 for Support and highest at 319,438 for Recon).
Javelin is much less abused than RPG/SMAW. With the Javelin you either need to stand in the open while it locks on, or have someone else lase for you. And a direct-fire Javelin won't lock onto aircraft, and won't kill with one shot, so it is kind of useless unless you are on a good team. Plus you can't use it as a long-range sniper rocket like the RPG.
Yeah, it's just cause of the AA mainly. If I drop that down, I can get 60 no problem.
Edit: Just tested without AA on. Bouncing from 80-100 fps on 64 man tehran highway rush. Non-action areas can get up to and well over the 120fps mark.
Oh no, I forgot to mention that I have a Noctua NH-D14. I think the highest I went on a stock cooler was like 4.0, but I had pretty good air movement within the case and I still kept an eye on temps. If you get any decent cooler (spend like $20-40) you should be good for the 4-4.5 range.
I whored out each class one at a time to get a better feel for each one. I'm only about 175k into engineer, but then I've almost got 400k on recon, over 500k on assault, and over 600k on support. I don't worry about raising them evenly, just playing what is needed. I actually had no idea my support score was that high.
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I am always running forward of my line of troops so they aren't pre-spotted. People use them constantly to seal off stairwells and what not so that they can camp in peace. Not to mention a claymore in a dark stairwell is almost impossible to see.
As for mines, if they aren't pre-spotted and are put into craters and such they are incredibly hard to see. Then to destroy them you have to aim exactly at them with the tank's main gun. All the while you are a huge non-moving target. I've been on maps where there are literally 50+ mines on all the roads, that takes forever to clear.
RPG/SMAW does like 1/3rd the damage as a Jav does. And you have to actually aim! Jav turns a tank burning from half a map away for zero effort. And if you get tank smoke, you lose zoom capability which is a huge hit to effectiveness. Jav's aren't a huge problem when one person is launching that. But like I said, it's FOTM easy noob weapon so there are usually 5+ people firing them and it just gets silly overpowered how far you can shoot them, how destructive they are, how safe the shooter is, and the incredible lack of effort to use.
It must be server-dependent. I've never had a problem with Javelins on any of the ones I play on regularly. Very rarely do I see them even being used, actually. RPG/SMAW is a much bigger threat for me in the tank.
Yeah, that's why I played with AA low. AA doesn't really matter much to me, jaggies don't piss me off. Seeing like ~80% cpu usage on my chip, so I'm pretty much maxed out on my 920 unfortunately.
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Anyone got some hooah! from CommanderRoot about 2-3 days ago? Who is he? I dont think he works for DICE or EA
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/#!/bf3/user/CommanderRoot/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/#!/bf3/user/CommanderRoot/
How much more demanding is BF3 than BFBC2? Is high + HBAO on BFBC2 comparable to high + HBAO on BF3?
I'd like to be able to play 64-player games without dropping below 50 fps. Would it be possible for me with high settings and SSAO/HBAO at 1920x1080 (AA doesn't matter)?
I'm running a 2500k @ 4.5ghz and a GTX 560 Ti @950mhz (should be just a bit slower than a stock GTX 570). Thanks.
I'd like to be able to play 64-player games without dropping below 50 fps. Would it be possible for me with high settings and SSAO/HBAO at 1920x1080 (AA doesn't matter)?
I'm running a 2500k @ 4.5ghz and a GTX 560 Ti @950mhz (should be just a bit slower than a stock GTX 570). Thanks.
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In a way, I kinda agree. All this technology makes killing easier, great for singleplayer, hard to balance for multi. It's the reason I can't help but hope for a good WW2 mod or expansion. Back when a lot of stuff took skill.
Not anymore apparently, we just tried it again in caspian and our scopes were already shining as soon as we saw each other. Just holding the gun will expose you, we needed to switch to pistol to turn it off.
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Wish they'd come up with equippable binoculars that wouldn't glint and let you observe from a distance.
Precisely why I think they need to remove the Javelin and put the AT4 back in. I'd rather get shot down by someone I know has some skill instead of these yuppie ass kills for the call of duty crowd
http://youtu.be/OdO8grOR6IY?hd=1 <---busy night in mumble, lol, sorry
http://youtu.be/BqLQYPo_YLw?hd=1
Man I miss that.
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Yes. I have no idea who he is. But, yes.
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It's the same guy that did the rocket video too
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i didnt get hooah'd but everyone on my friend's battlefeed did
https://twitter.com/#!/CommanderRoot
he got me too
are you on crack?
mines and claymores were in BF2. the javelin isnt that effective unless you use teamwork
the increased vehicle damange and aiming of the javelin is its trade off that you cant rocket spam infantry and cover with it.
I dodge javelins in the tank jet and helo all the time with ECM and smoke......
its ANOTHER way to separte good players from shit players and nubs
he got me too
are you on crack?
mines and claymores were in BF2. the javelin isnt that effective unless you use teamwork
the increased vehicle damange and aiming of the javelin is its trade off that you cant rocket spam infantry and cover with it.
I dodge javelins in the tank jet and helo all the time with ECM and smoke......
its ANOTHER way to separte good players from shit players and nubs
I couldn't care less what was or wasn't in BF2. When you have 5+ random people shooting Jav's from across the map laying waste to all vehicles, you need absolutely zero team work and absolutely zero skill.
I am in the top < .01% of all BF3 players in vehicle score per minute and armored warfare ribbons, so I don't need any tips on what separates good players from noob's LOL.