Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

USMCGrunt said:
YAY for more Warthog/Frogfoot love...those cannons are beast!



I know what you mean...I dropped flares earlier today in a game no shit about five seconds prior to being hit by missile...was like WTF? Lock on range is pretty crazy as well...

adapt and overcome baby, adapt and overcome.
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That's the name of the game, and always has been with the battlefield series. For every few things DICE fixes, they break 1 more. Battlefield 2, BF2142, and BC2 all took almost a year for them to really come into their own and have the majority of bugs squashed and balancing issues worked out.
 
Wow -- the latest trailer is amazing. Can't wait for next week!

I love the game, but I really have to tip my hat to the people that create and edit these promo videos, the music, the cuts, everything just looks so badass. Even if you aren't into video games, you just have to get excited at the pumping war music.

Love it!
 
collegeboy69us said:
Wow -- the latest trailer is amazing. Can't wait for next week!

I love the game, but I really have to tip my hat to the people that create and edit these promo videos, the music, the cuts, everything just looks so badass. Even if you aren't into video games, you just have to get excited at the pumping war music.

Love it!
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Yeah they pump out some badass trailers that get you pumped. I think that RollieThePollie guy you see in all trailers is the one responsible for them.
 
USMCGrunt said:
I know what you mean...I dropped flares earlier today in a game no shit about five seconds prior to being hit by missile...was like WTF? Lock on range is pretty crazy as well...

adapt and overcome baby, adapt and overcome.
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You can't overcome broken. I can see this being maybe okay on a balanced game. But lopsided and you happen to be on the losing team, you're fucked.

Before I could help out more, but if they have decent AA, forget it. Get into the air and it's

beep beep beep lock - flares- beep beep beep lock - run away on afterburners, flare, just made it phew - turn around head back - beep beep beep lock - pop flares... FUCK THEY DIDN"T WORK missile hits, you're down to 40% or something, still kicking, run away and evade until jet is repaired. Back in the fight - beep beep beep beep lock - flares, don't work again, missile hits this time doing more damage (for some reason when it should be constant) - you die, F this game.

If you try to use ECM it just doesn't work MOST of the time. It's so bugged.

It was mostly like that my last two rounds, with a little variance thrown in. It's absolutely ridiculous. On a team of 32 enemies you could have up to 10 engineers all trying to lock onto you, throw enemy mobile AA on top of that, enemy base AA (which can't be destroyed for some reason), plus other jets, plus enemy choppers, plus soflam, and forget it.

I don't see anyway you can argue in favor of these changes except if you're tired of being on the ground getting killed. In that case, YOU need to get better.

Sick of it.
 
Dallows said:
If you're tired of being in the air getting killed. YOU need to get better.
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Fixed.

It's funny hearing people complain about air vehicles being OP and people complaining about anti-air weapons being OP. Which brings me to this conclusion, They are both fine in their flaws and advantages. Adapt to the fucking game and stop whining about it being the game/devs/balance/lag, because OBVIOUSLY it's not you.

I never worry about being raped by jets because well its Battlefield, Legitimate Jet Rape is normal and should never give birth to any losses for the opposing team, unless they do actually suck.
 
Just tested the Stingers, IGLA's, and jets all night. I think they have finally hit the nail on the head for balance.

The stingers and IGLA's have somewhere around 300-350 meter lock on range, but lock on so much faster. On a map like Oman, that allows you to get one shot on a jet if he decides to run after being shot at which may or may not hit (most likely not if he has countermeasures). If he decides to turn and burn, you can get a second missile off and hit him after the countermeasures wear off.

Transport Choppers are another story. The damage model has been tweaked against transport choppers. It consistently took 3 missiles to bring it down with either zero or one engineer repairing it. Anything more than 1 engineer and they were god like against AA missiles and you have to rely on the jets or several people with missiles to take it out.

Stingers and IGLA's were much more effective against Attack choppers. 1 missile disable, 2 for the kill. However, skilled pilots could easily get down low and hide before that second missile launched after their countermeasures wore off.

For those of you concerned the Stingers and IGLA's aren't helping, here is proof they work well.
8 kills that round with the IGLA: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/42621615/1/240074659/

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From the jet point of view, 1 missile disables you, 2 for kill. However, it is just as easy as ever to get away from them. Turn tail and run full afterburner in opposite direction. Pop flares a few seconds after launch if you were pretty far away to begin with. You can no longer turn and burn over a hot zone in the jet. You will rely more on hit and run tactics.

If you still have a missile lock after popping flares, you have a javelin on your tail. Simply go full afterburner and do a slow turn, eventually the javelin gives up.

Trust me when I say, JETS ARE STILL OP. However, you now at least have a shot as a ground pounder. The missiles will be enough of a nuisance to get them off your back for a while. You will get a few kills on jets, but the more skilled the pilot the more likely he will know how to shoot and scoot.

Dallows, it isn't hard to compensate. I suggest you learn to adapt. It barely took me a few minutes to figure out how to deal with the extra missiles. Shoot and scoot...shoot and scoot. Don't use ECM, only use flares on jets.
Here's proof it can be done. All 42 of my kills that round were in a jet.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/42626594/1/240074659/
 
You're absolutely right. It is easy to dominate in a jet when the other team sucks.
 
Dallows said:
You're absolutely right. It is easy to dominate in a jet when the other team sucks.
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:rolleyes:

Come on man. I'm trying to help you out. Give you some hope that it isn't as bad as you think. FWIW, that score isn't too far out of ordinary when I get ahold of a jet.

Trust me, just try the tactics I mentioned. ;)
 
CaptNumbNutz said:
:rolleyes:

Come on man. I'm trying to help you out. Give you some hope that it isn't as bad as you think. FWIW, that score isn't too far out of ordinary when I get ahold of a jet.

Trust me, just try the tactics I mentioned. ;)
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I'll say this again hoping to not insult you. I am good with a jet. I might even say great. I know how to fly. I don't need pointers. What I need is a balanced game, which this, is not.

I've also played on that server. And they suck.
 
Dallows said:
I'll say this again hoping to not insult you. I am good with a jet. I might even say great. I know how to fly. I don't need pointers. What I need is a balanced game, which this, is not.

I've also played on that server. And they suck.
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So now you are saying you can't rape the ground with impunity?:rolleyes:

Poor you
 
They still didn't fix the IDIOTIC blinding of tac lights peq's on day light maps. I hate with a passion people who abuse this.
 
So now you are saying you can't rape the ground with impunity?:rolleyes:

Poor you
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Yeah, a jet as an important combat asset is just too unreasonable. :rolleyes:

Also, tank vs. non explosives carrying infantry is imbalanced.
 
Best trailer since the Damavand Peak jump. That was sweet. Now I just need an internet connection at my new place for my desktop...
 
verylostindeed said:
Trail of tears from jet pilots = something going right for a change. :)
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Are jets really that out of control? Good pilots can do alot but I still encounter games with strong air dominance but their team is getting raped on the ground.

I could maybe understand why you would hate jets if they were unstoppable and constantly killing everything on the ground, but most of the time jets are doing air to air, and they are far from unstoppable, almost any semblance of teamwork can really limit aircraft impact.
 
John1701 said:
Are jets really that out of control? Good pilots can do alot but I still encounter games with strong air dominance but their team is getting raped on the ground.

I could maybe understand why you would hate jets if they were unstoppable and constantly killing everything on the ground, but most of the time jets are doing air to air, and they are far from unstoppable, almost any semblance of teamwork can really limit aircraft impact.
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Teamwork is the keyword here.

You get a team that is clicking on all facets of Air and then Air can have a dominating effect. What I mean by all facets is a stationary AA pushing enemy jets off base and near side of base, mobile AA in a defenseable position providing additional harrassment and two competent pilots working together against enemy pilots and mobile AA. I've been on a couple pub teams where this worked and it allowed the pilots to focus on dropping enemy vehicles, allowing ground forces to push forward.

Unfortunately, this is a bit of a rarity.
 
BF is one of those games that when u get a good team, shit even just a good squad, you wanna keep playing because you never know when that'll happen again. Teamwork is so key though.
 
Love me some BF3, always looking for good squad mates hit me up if you want to play some conq.

And I follow Roland on twitter, he's the guy in charge of the videos as stated above.
https://twitter.com/RollieThePollie
Roland Smedberg
@RollieThePollie
Senior Video Director at DICE, making intros, videos and trailers for 10+ years and 20+ titles. Currently working on Armored Kill, among other things.
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XamediX said:
BF is one of those games that when u get a good team, shit even just a good squad, you wanna keep playing because you never know when that'll happen again. Teamwork is so key though.
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Try doing that consistently without native VOIP support. :(
 
Inu said:
Try doing that consistently without native VOIP support. :(
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Which is why its good to get a group of friends together to play BF3. Just get everyone in a group chat, then join a server and everyone follows. Though I do wish BF3 had built-in squad voice at least.
 
How do you remove a friend from BL? I have a few that stopped playing and want to clean up.
 
So I get home today to find an Origin update; install it, and immediately it pops up to repair and then download 2.4GB...anyone else have this happen to them? Is this due to AK (which I have not yet purchased)?
 
I had to do the repair install. Most of my friends did to. Something happened.
 
NVM. Just looked at what's happening to the BF3 forum... No hope from me. Holy shit is that place bad.
 
I haven't played in months but I wanna get back into it again. One question though: why do I see everyone complaining about premium members? What have I missed?
 
Rusty4560 said:
I haven't played in months but I wanna get back into it again. One question though: why do I see everyone complaining about premium members? What have I missed?
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Premium offers nothing in terms of advantage in game play. You can buy the DLC individual, get the same guns, etc. I bought premium because it was $37 on GMG and that is cheaper then $15 per DLC.

The complaints about premium are more for the uncertainty of the quality of upcoming DLC and giving money upfront to "EA/DICE".
 
Rusty4560 said:
I haven't played in months but I wanna get back into it again. One question though: why do I see everyone complaining about premium members? What have I missed?
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Just typical whining from the have-not's trying to come to terms with their own lack of skill in the game.
 
Rusty4560 said:
Is that deal still on? What does gmg stand for?
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Green man Gaming 25% off code: GMG25-1BW0K-K1A3G

Good through 9/10

Battlefield 3 Premium Here - 25% = $37.50

You will get a code form GMG and add it to your account through Origins. A Battlelog Premium newsfeed notification should come up with your username on it.

Got the same price for Premium a few months ago. Just make sure you use PayPal to purchase it, otherwise your bank account might get locked since GMG is based in Europe
 
Yea GMG sucks with normal credit cards. I had to get a member from this forum to buy one for me using his PP account. Deal was worth it though.
 
XamediX said:
Just typical whining from the have-not's trying to come to terms with their own lack of skill in the game.
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Interesting considering I have won Cal, TWL and World tournament championships in 1942, Nam, POE, BF2, BF2 Spec Ops, etc. :rolleyes:

So yeah, I have a bit of experience from the competitive side of things but have been bummed since this game came out with the dearth of comp play. I don't like pubbing.

Still can be fun to play with friends but none of my old teammates play bf anymore. So whining? Sure, I am sad to see this game go. Loved playing it for many years but now it's just not fun anymore without matches and scrims.
 
Last time i used GMG I had to call my bank to approve the purchase after I purchased it. It took all of 5 minutes and honestly wasn't that bad. The previous time sucked, but I did it about a month ago when I bought Premium and it was fine.
 
spaceman said:
Interesting considering I have won Cal, TWL and World tournament championships in 1942, Nam, POE, BF2, BF2 Spec Ops, etc. :rolleyes:

So yeah, I have a bit of experience from the competitive side of things but have been bummed since this game came out with the dearth of comp play. I don't like pubbing.

Still can be fun to play with friends but none of my old teammates play bf anymore. So whining? Sure, I am sad to see this game go. Loved playing it for many years but now it's just not fun anymore without matches and scrims.
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Not far behind you. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654625215915005/
 
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