Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

collegeboy69us said:
nothing says you can't remember 9/11 if you choose to.

The fact is during the history of HUMANS, if we had perfect recording capability over the eons.... something "tragic" has happened on every single damn day in our calendar year. We can't very well stop living can we?

It's a terrible thing -- but the world cannot and will not slow down because of bad people doing bad things.
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Yep. Living life as normal is the best way to honour the dead, in this case.
 
fochkoph said:
I'd rather they bring back the AT4. :D
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This X1000. The stinger and Igla are worthless after the latest patch. They rarely lock-on for me. Here I am staring at this thing and it just won't lock-on. Look away and aim again nothing still.... sigh
 
F.E.A.R. said:
This X1000. The stinger and Igla are worthless after the latest patch. They rarely lock-on for me. Here I am staring at this thing and it just won't lock-on. Look away and aim again nothing still.... sigh
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Not only is the lock on fucked from up close, it's fucked from a distance. It has the stingiest range I can think of of any weapon from any game. It can really mess up a helo or a jet, but the lock-ons are so bad, it doesn't matter.

I now have at least 100 kills with every single primary weapon in the game. 68 weapons in total with at least 100 kills.

Most kills with a weapon: Knife at 251.
 
In the first versions of the game the Stinger was pretty powerful, then it became absolutely useless when I could spit further then it could lock.
 
I really hope they do something with the range of soflam/3rd seat in tank in Armored Kill or Jets are pretty much going to annihilate everything even more.
 
SolidSnakeUS said:
Not only is the lock on fucked from up close, it's fucked from a distance. It has the stingiest range I can think of of any weapon from any game. It can really mess up a helo or a jet, but the lock-ons are so bad, it doesn't matter.

I now have at least 100 kills with every single primary weapon in the game. 68 weapons in total with at least 100 kills.

Most kills with a weapon: Knife at 251.
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nice

I have 59 different service stars

24 I have 200+ now
 
SolidSnakeUS said:
Not only is the lock on fucked from up close, it's fucked from a distance. It has the stingiest range I can think of of any weapon from any game. It can really mess up a helo or a jet, but the lock-ons are so bad, it doesn't matter.

I now have at least 100 kills with every single primary weapon in the game. 68 weapons in total with at least 100 kills.

Most kills with a weapon: Knife at 251.
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To make matters worse, flares are way too effective, so you've got to lock on twice in a short period of time to even have a chance of hitting anything once -- good luck.
 
verylostindeed said:
To make matters worse, flares are way too effective, so you've got to lock on twice in a short period of time to even have a chance of hitting anything once -- good luck.
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Didn't they patch flares recently to deter incoming missiles but not break existing lock-ons, allowing you to fire just after a pilot uses his flares? I remember reading that in the patch notes. Electronic countermeasures still break locks though, again, according to the patch notes. I haven't really played since before that patch though so I've never tried it for myself.
 
ECM wont always turn on......atleast on jets

flares got weaker and stronger, they wont deter missles outside a certain range, but they still break lock
 
My stats on the Stinger is 36 shots, one kill[0]. Go ahead, laugh. I know you want to.

Anyone know what the expected real-world statistics would be? I know BF3 isn't a simulator, but perhaps they're simulating this particular weapon :-p

[0] According to tracking.
 
Flares don't break lock but you have to wait a good 3-4 seconds before firing a shot once theyve been launched or the missile will veer off after a flare. What I tend to do (as a pilot) is wait a couple seconds after a missle has been fired at me to pop flares that way I can be out of locking range by the time my flares stop working. Of course, jet pilots have figured this out and will lock you, get up close and fire their missles, once you get close enough, missles will ignore flares and hit the jet.

ECM breaks lock/locking of missle launchers but rarely, if even at all, break a missle's lock once its been fired. They both have their specific deployment advantages but I prefer to still stick with flares and rockets...nothing works better for me at dominating the skies than my trusty cannon.
 
Ugh AA missiles are terrible. Was playing as RU on Wake and the US stole our attack chopper. I spent a solid 10 minutes trying to shoot the thing down with the IGLA (of course no SOFLAM to be found so the Jav was not an option) until I got pissed off and switched to the RPG. Managed to shoot it down with an RPG from on top of the rocks behind the hangar.

I can't believe winging it with an RPG is significantly more effective than a freaking purpose built heat seeking AA missile. In all this time, I've never gotten a kill with an AA rocket, though I have hit once or twice for a disable. Granted I almost never use them because Jav or RPG are way more useful, but still. Taking a weapon that can only hit the 2-3 air units up there at any given time and giving up the ability to kill infantry or vehicles with that slot should be worth the trade-off.
 
dremic said:
anybody have the graphical issues when zoomed in with a sniper rifle? shit twitches. its annoying -_-----" < --- stroke victim thats how upsetting this is
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I do. Especially with the stronger scopes. It's quite annoying with anything over a 7x.
 
2x XP weekend is up. Just played Metro for a bit :D and wow, got kicked by admin for "explosive spam", and that's pretty much what everyone does on that map :confused:
 
the_transporter said:
2x XP weekend is up. Just played Metro for a bit :D and wow, got kicked by admin for "explosive spam", and that's pretty much what everyone does on that map :confused:
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Some servers restrict explosive use. It might only include rpg/m320 but also grenades too. Could be an automatic kick script.
 
WorldExclusive said:
I haven't played BF3 for over a month now.

So this is what an annoyance-free life feels like. ;)
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No kidding. I just tried playing and I swear I just can't see shit. This is on all high, low effects, no aa or fxaa no hbao at 1920x1080 on a 58" TV.
 
Last time I played I was high as fuck on shrooms, my god the game had never been so beautiful or so fun. I was kicking ass too!
 
Did they fuck with the jets? I was just flying earlier today after being away for a little bit, 1-3 weeks tops, and they felt awful. Handling was horrid.
 
collegeboy69us said:
nothing says you can't remember 9/11 if you choose to.

The fact is during the history of HUMANS, if we had perfect recording capability over the eons.... something "tragic" has happened on every single damn day in our calendar year. We can't very well stop living can we?

It's a terrible thing -- but the world cannot and will not slow down because of bad people doing bad things.
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Some things affect more people and are more tragic. I do hope you're just playing dumb here.
 
Dallows said:
Did they fuck with the jets? I was just flying earlier today after being away for a little bit, 1-3 weeks tops, and they felt awful. Handling was horrid.
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No change to the jets. However, if there is network lag I have noticed some really shitty handling. Usually it starts with some input lag or with the game repeating the transition animation from cockpit to 3rd person view, then will culminate a few minutes later with a random crash straight into the ground.
 
eloj said:
I agree. Like for instance deaths involving drug driving. More than one person/family hit by that tragedy every hour, 24/7, 365 in the US. Some 10000 people/year.
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Not all on one day. Which was my point if you had critical thinking skills.
 
Uninstalling BF3 from my SSD and putting tribes on it. Just can't play it anymore. See you when AF hits maybe. Tribes is just much more fun imo. GG
 
spaceman said:
Uninstalling BF3 from my SSD and putting tribes on it. Just can't play it anymore. See you when AF hits maybe. Tribes is just much more fun imo. GG
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Ya I'm done with BF3. It just pisses me off too much most of the time. The thing that has done it for me is the jet love. I don't get why companies who make PvP games do this, but they seem to have to have a class/vehicle/whatever that they love above all others and make it the "thing to be/do". In BF3 now jets are more or less invincible except to other jets if the pilot is good. I personally don't care for playing jets so it sucks for me. On the ground there is fuck-all you can do, even the AA does nothing against them. Choppers are no problem to deal with, tanks there's all kinds of ways to take out, LAVs aren't an issue but you are just fucked against jets unless you want to play one.

So I'm done with it. I get tired of having to deal with the shit. Also server balance has been real bad lately. Seems like you are always either rolling the other team or getting rolled. Not my idea of a fun time. I want a good fight, not a one sided stomp fest.

Pity too because the game looks beautiful and runs fantastic. Technically it is a great game but the balance is all kinds of fucked.
 
Yup game is great looking but the gameplay just sucks.

Tribes looks ok at best but the gameplay is awesome most of the time. Plus the hit reg is excellent.
 
Give me squad play back and I will be back to BF3. It is soo boring now to go lone wolf.
Just let to spawn ONLY on squad leader and give spawn becon only to squad leader and we are back to squad game!
 
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Sycraft said:
On the ground there is fuck-all you can do, even the AA does nothing against them.
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No, the stingers/IGLA barely do anything against them due to the nerfed range.

The Tunguska and LAV-D are incredibly effective against them as long as its being piloted by someone competent. The missiles aren't as effective anymore due to range and due to the fact that their are even more competent pilots than ever that know when to get out of range quickly. The gun on them is as effective as ever, you just need to know how much to lead the target.

For example, the other night I faced a few of those level 100's that play so religiously that they are almost a robot. You would swear that they had hacks, except the fact that the turns they pull off can all be done with the fucked up physics and keeping the jet at 315 knots. I know because I do them myself, and they seem to be possible only if you use the keyboard for your throttle and sometimes high dpi mouse for the turns. I feel like I'm a decent pilot but I can't hold a candle to guys like these. I hopped in the Tunguska on Kharg Island and prceeded to drive into the large fuel tanks that don't blow up. I would watch the pilots for a few seconds then open fire with my guns only when I was 100% sure they were in range so as to not give away my position. I had about a 50% chance to disable them on the first pass. The ones that got away immediately came back and attacked me with rockets, but I ducked the tank behind cover before they could hit and then shot them as they peeled away. Eventually they got so mad they began ramming their planes into me or even bailing right before to place C4.

So in short, AA tanks are still very effective against jets as long as you don't have a dumbass driving it.
 
so sounds like BF3 turned into BF2?

funny, air power (or air overpower) was the biggest complaint in BF2 (along with dolphin diving) and they screwed it all up again.

Why couldn't DICE just look at what they did in 2142? It was near perfect balance.
 
Really? Steam has (always) been super stable for me and Origin has been an absolute nightmare. I've only played once for 2 rounds since I installed Win8 and I had to say that it has not crashed yet. I'll let you guys know as I play more. If I play more...
 
Bigbacon said:
so sounds like BF3 turned into BF2?

funny, air power (or air overpower) was the biggest complaint in BF2 (along with dolphin diving) and they screwed it all up again.

Why couldn't DICE just look at what they did in 2142? It was near perfect balance.
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Except that the physics are different in BF3 than BF2. In BF2, the jets actually turned tighter with afterburners on. In BF3, the jets turn tighter at a slower speeds, but like real jets eventually the lack of speed affects the turning rate (how fast the nose changes directions) even though they are turning tighter. Its not perfect, but it is slightly more realistic. However, there are a dozen other things that are wrong with the flight models that one game got right and the other did not.

As for 2142, It was so much easier to balance the air vehicles because there were only a couple of them to begin with, and they were all VTOL craft that flew incredibly slow anyways.
 
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