Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

dremic said:
i feel like WW2 games are less likely because they offer less customization. cause they cant add on red dots and shit you know? but honestly Im dying for a new WW2 game. one that includes normandy beach and frostbite 2.0 graphics.
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Allow us to paint the noses on our planes :)

There's ways to allow customization, they just have to be creative. I know that all the modern kiddies want to have "wicked cool" attachments on their guns.

Bayonet, different scopes, high-cap mags. There's ways to give some form of attachment.

They could even do flashlights, but make them really large and duct-taped to the gun. Ha. All of this would be irrelevant if we had mod support. Even if they (it'd be a poor move) sold the mod dev stuff. $50 for a "developer kit" (the tools for developers) and $10 to access all the mods (to be able to install and use mods). It'd sale. It'd be EA-cheesy, but it'd sale.
 
Spidey329 said:
Allow us to paint the noses on our planes :)

There's ways to allow customization, they just have to be creative. I know that all the modern kiddies want to have "wicked cool" attachments on their guns.

Bayonet, different scopes, high-cap mags. There's ways to give some form of attachment.

They could even do flashlights, but make them really large and duct-taped to the gun. Ha. All of this would be irrelevant if we had mod support. Even if they (it'd be a poor move) sold the mod dev stuff. $50 for a "developer kit" (the tools for developers) and $10 to access all the mods (to be able to install and use mods). It'd sale. It'd be EA-cheesy, but it'd sale.
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What I loved about Counter-Strike way back in the day (though more of a Half-life feature really) was the ability to have customized graffiti. I think it'd be awesome if they could include a custom paint scheme maker for all the different vehicles and other people would see these custom paints...not just you. I'm not talking about pre-defined schemes setup by the devs but a full blown create your own scheme setup. I'd even be ok if they just gave you 4-5 different zones that you could designate a color for and like 3-4 decal spots. I know there are some additional logistical issues with that as far as getting those files to be small and how to efficiently transport them over the connections without them causing issues in the connection (P2P would be horrible, server side storage would probably work best) but I think a lot of people would go to town with it.
 
USMCGrunt said:
What I loved about Counter-Strike way back in the day (though more of a Half-life feature really) was the ability to have customized graffiti. I think it'd be awesome if they could include a custom paint scheme maker for all the different vehicles and other people would see these custom paints...not just you. I'm not talking about pre-defined schemes setup by the devs but a full blown create your own scheme setup. I'd even be ok if they just gave you 4-5 different zones that you could designate a color for and like 3-4 decal spots. I know there are some additional logistical issues with that as far as getting those files to be small and how to efficiently transport them over the connections without them causing issues in the connection (P2P would be horrible, server side storage would probably work best) but I think a lot of people would go to town with it.
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Agreed. They could use a sort of server cache. or force the downloads before the match like CS did with custom sounds and maps. Or have it uploaded to your battlelog account and store it there, but only if you have premium. =)
 
Azureth said:
I really don't see why they think they can get away with making a new sequel so soon like COD. BF3 may be fairly popular, but it still isn't anywhere near COD popular. The only reason COD gets away with releasing sequel after sequel is BECAUSE of how popular it is. As it is, while BF3 may have a fairly significant player base, it still is hard to find servers with people in them many times, especially if you're looking for a specific gametype/map.

Do they really think BF fans will be as eager to go buy yearly sequels as COD fans? Sure seems like they're really jumping the gun.
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um its not near as followed up, teh game would have to be launching this fall, instead its Warfighter, from danger close


it IS kinda the same, as COD uses 2 studios, but somehow them being different IP makes it better, plus tons of games are using FB 2, NFS and the new F2P C&C are as well

XamediX said:
Agreed. They could use a sort of server cache. or force the downloads before the match like CS did with custom sounds and maps. Or have it uploaded to your battlelog account and store it there, but only if you have premium. =)
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god please no, lets keep that shit out of BF, you want crazy colored shit go play COD for your orange and pink tiger stripe guns :p
 
Azureth said:
I really don't see why they think they can get away with making a new sequel so soon like COD. BF3 may be fairly popular, but it still isn't anywhere near COD popular. The only reason COD gets away with releasing sequel after sequel is BECAUSE of how popular it is. As it is, while BF3 may have a fairly significant player base, it still is hard to find servers with people in them many times, especially if you're looking for a specific gametype/map.

Do they really think BF fans will be as eager to go buy yearly sequels as COD fans? Sure seems like they're really jumping the gun.
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BF3 sold a fuck ton of copies. million and millions. it sells incredibly well. anybodies sales look mini in comparison to COD.. but dont think BF3 isnt popular or doesnt sell incredibly well because it does and so will bf4 unfortunately
 
dremic said:
BF3 sold a fuck ton of copies. million and millions. it sells incredibly well. anybodies sales look mini in comparison to COD.. but dont think BF3 isnt popular or doesnt sell incredibly well because it does and so will bf4 unfortunately
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Aprox. 15 million to be more exact...hugely popular and lets face it...they've raked in over a billion dollars from this franchise and its Premium membership...and they haven't finished releasing half of the DLC yet. EA and DICE would be insane at the business level not to go for a sequel.

(Source: http://bf3blog.com/tag/sales/)

Edit: Just saw on the same site that Premium membership has topped 1.3 million...so 900mil made from BF 3 sales and then an additional 65 mil from Premium members. So I was a bit too optimistic on my "over a billion dollars" statement but im pretty confident (in my uninformed ways) that they've hit 750 mil in profits from this.
 
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USMCGrunt said:
Aprox. 15 million to be more exact...hugely popular and lets face it...they've raked in over a billion dollars from this franchise and its Premium membership...and they haven't finished releasing half of the DLC yet. EA and DICE would be insane at the business level not to go for a sequel.

(Source: http://bf3blog.com/tag/sales/)

Edit: Just saw on the same site that Premium membership has topped 1.3 million...so 900mil made from BF 3 sales and then an additional 65 mil from Premium members. So I was a bit too optimistic on my "over a billion dollars" statement but im pretty confident (in my uninformed ways) that they've hit 750 mil in profits from this.
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They still could have broken the $1B mark if you count people who bought individual DLC but not premium. I know I was dumb and bought the CQ expansion and not premium when I should have, as I'm sure I'll buy the rest of the expansions when they come out anyway. AK in particular looks amazing...Spectre gunship ftw.
 
haunter said:
god please no, lets keep that shit out of BF, you want crazy colored shit go play COD for your orange and pink tiger stripe guns :p
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Haha, I just miss all the cks, racism, meme pictures being plastered all over the place. I had this one image I stole from a CS spray, it had a picture of Ali punching out Jesus. Hilariousness. But yea it will delve to nonsense fairly quickly, but one could dream though. :D
 
USMCGrunt said:
Aprox. 15 million to be more exact...hugely popular and lets face it...they've raked in over a billion dollars from this franchise and its Premium membership...and they haven't finished releasing half of the DLC yet. EA and DICE would be insane at the business level not to go for a sequel.

(Source: http://bf3blog.com/tag/sales/)

Edit: Just saw on the same site that Premium membership has topped 1.3 million...so 900mil made from BF 3 sales and then an additional 65 mil from Premium members. So I was a bit too optimistic on my "over a billion dollars" statement but im pretty confident (in my uninformed ways) that they've hit 750 mil in profits from this.
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Do we have an idea of what BF3 cost to develop? $200M seems a bit optimistic for full development/marketing/overhead costs.

Also regarding CS sprays, they are supported in other Source games, I use an animated "" gif for my TF2 spray. Fun to troll by building a teleporter exit facing a wall, then spray directly in front of the direction people face. People usually get very upset :).
 
cost depends on how you view cost of frostbite 2, does it count at all? do we count what cost is left after fees for licensing to other EA studios? NFS and C&C are using it now, Warfighter etc

XamediX said:
Haha, I just miss all the cks, racism, meme pictures being plastered all over the place. I had this one image I stole from a CS spray, it had a picture of Ali punching out Jesus. Hilariousness. But yea it will delve to nonsense fairly quickly, but one could dream though. :D
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LOL yeah, it could quickly devolve in stuff that really doesnt belong in BF

sounds more like a thing for saints row now!
 
USMCGrunt said:
What I loved about Counter-Strike way back in the day (though more of a Half-life feature really) was the ability to have customized graffiti. I think it'd be awesome if they could include a custom paint scheme maker for all the different vehicles and other people would see these custom paints...not just you. I'm not talking about pre-defined schemes setup by the devs but a full blown create your own scheme setup. I'd even be ok if they just gave you 4-5 different zones that you could designate a color for and like 3-4 decal spots. I know there are some additional logistical issues with that as far as getting those files to be small and how to efficiently transport them over the connections without them causing issues in the connection (P2P would be horrible, server side storage would probably work best) but I think a lot of people would go to town with it.
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I remember that now. A few of the Rainbow Six games allowed you to place your own shoulder patch in multiplayer.
 
USMCGrunt said:
What I loved about Counter-Strike way back in the day (though more of a Half-life feature really) was the ability to have customized graffiti. I think it'd be awesome if they could include a custom paint scheme maker for all the different vehicles and other people would see these custom paints...not just you. I'm not talking about pre-defined schemes setup by the devs but a full blown create your own scheme setup. I'd even be ok if they just gave you 4-5 different zones that you could designate a color for and like 3-4 decal spots. I know there are some additional logistical issues with that as far as getting those files to be small and how to efficiently transport them over the connections without them causing issues in the connection (P2P would be horrible, server side storage would probably work best) but I think a lot of people would go to town with it.
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while i love to be able to throw custom logos and such on vehicles and armor, could you imagine tho how many people would drive tanks around with dicks slapped on the side and then name the tank Penetrator.
 
Wildace said:
while i love to be able to throw custom logos and such on vehicles and armor, could you imagine tho how many people would drive tanks around with dicks slapped on the side and then name the tank Penetrator.
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People may think it's crude - but that's real life, that's people. And if you think that type of thing doesn't happen overseas when you are in a shithole desert with the 24/7 risk of getting blown up... then you have another thing coming.

I know if I faced the risk of death every day, I'd take every opportunity to crack a smile and enjoy that moment in life. So what if it's a dick or a set of tits on a tank.

People really are out of touch with reality if they think hilarious/nasty things don't go on in the ranks of guys actively in a war.
 
Wildace said:
while i love to be able to throw custom logos and such on vehicles and armor, could you imagine tho how many people would drive tanks around with dicks slapped on the side and then name the tank Penetrator.
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ROFL, thats true...so maybe having many different zones with some predetermined decals would be beneficial...OH and it would give them the ability to do microtransactions for additional decals, lol.
 
collegeboy69us said:
People may think it's crude - but that's real life, that's people. And if you think that type of thing doesn't happen overseas when you are in a shithole desert with the 24/7 risk of getting blown up... then you have another thing coming.

I know if I faced the risk of death every day, I'd take every opportunity to crack a smile and enjoy that moment in life. So what if it's a dick or a set of tits on a tank.

People really are out of touch with reality if they think hilarious/nasty things don't go on in the ranks of guys actively in a war.
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Your also out of touch with the politics of war. No, there are not big dicks on the side of our tanks. That tells people that the people of whatever country the tank comes from are immorale, immature, and unprofessional. Would it happen without proper oversight, you bet it would. Does that make it right, hell no it doesn't.

Abu Grahb is a perfect example of the wrong kind of people without proper supervision. No im not saying all soldiers would do that if left unsupervised, only some of them, which is why we don't hear about these stupid people doing stupid things more often.
 
Wildace said:
while i love to be able to throw custom logos and such on vehicles and armor, could you imagine tho how many people would drive tanks around with dicks slapped on the side and then name the tank Penetrator.
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collegeboy69us said:
People may think it's crude - but that's real life, that's people. And if you think that type of thing doesn't happen overseas when you are in a shithole desert with the 24/7 risk of getting blown up... then you have another thing coming.

I know if I faced the risk of death every day, I'd take every opportunity to crack a smile and enjoy that moment in life. So what if it's a dick or a set of tits on a tank.

People really are out of touch with reality if they think hilarious/nasty things don't go on in the ranks of guys actively in a war.
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Exactly. I didn't even think of custom decals on vehicles though. I think the most effective CS spray was the one of the terrorist holding the AK that got people to shoot at it all the time, giving away their position.
 
XamediX said:
Exactly. I didn't even think of custom decals on vehicles though. I think the most effective CS spray was the one of the terrorist holding the AK that got people to shoot at it all the time, giving away their position.
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Read what USMCGrunt wrote, he hit the nail on the head.

It really bothers me when I play TF2 and someone randomly sprays a scene from some porn onto the wall.

What is funny about spraying something you know people don't want to see in a game, onto a wall in the game?
 
Finally I fixed and upgraded my PC after several months of hesitating.

Intel Core i5 2500K
Asus P8Z68-V/GEN3
Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8 GB Kit PC3-12800, 1600 MHz, 2x240 DIMM 8 GB Kit
Arctic Cooling Arctic Freezer 13 PRO
OCZ Agility 3 120 GB 2.5" SSD

Assembled today and PC switched on without any problems from the first time. I'm happy though have not had a chance to test any games on it yet. Downloading BF3 now.

What have I missed during last 4 months while mine PC was broken?
 
However, the company decided against it because it was "afraid of all the things that can come with releasing the code," including hacking exploits.
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Ahahahahaha! Yeah, because releasing mod tools would really make a noticeable difference to the hoards of hackers which have infested the game since release?! :rolleyes:

Troedsson said if DICE were to release mod tools, it would want to let console players in, too, and the studio was not prepared to do this.

"If we do mod support, we want to do it really, really well," he said. "We are not ready to do this yet."
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Seriously DICE these days is comprised of nothing but compulsive liars, the number of convoluted and inconsistent excuses they have trotted out is mind boggling. I would have a lot more respect for them if they were just honest and admitted that the real reason for no mod tools was they want to screw every last cent out of the user base and are afraid they cannot compete with a community which will be able to deliver much higher quality content for free,
 
almalino said:
Finally I fixed and upgraded my PC after several months of hesitating.

Intel Core i5 2500K
Asus P8Z68-V/GEN3
Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8 GB Kit PC3-12800, 1600 MHz, 2x240 DIMM 8 GB Kit
Arctic Cooling Arctic Freezer 13 PRO
OCZ Agility 3 120 GB 2.5" SSD

Assembled today and PC switched on without any problems from the first time. I'm happy though have not had a chance to test any games on it yet. Downloading BF3 now.

What have I missed during last 4 months while mine PC was broken?
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Close Quarters has released since as well as a swath of new assignments to complete that unlock mostly weapon skins and I think one or two player skins. They've made a few changes to battlelog...the most prominent of which that comes to mind is being able to set your loudouts within battlelog before launching the game.
 
I don't get to spend a ton of time per week in BF3 - maybe a few hours. (damn you work)


I've completed every assignment/achievement possible - right now it's just me grinding on weapons that I never liked to unlock all the attachment I will never use. I suppose I'm a bit OCD about the unlocks.

They really need to move away from the gun skin unlock crap, nobody cares or notices. Weapon unlocks are what get people excited. I will actually admit being given "all the guns" in the beginning isn't as fun to me.

I'm looking forward to armored kill -- I've already paid for all the packs, should keep things interesting for a while.
 
Just purchased BF3 for PC, and its in the midst of downloading (58% thru, at a rate of 2.3 mbs). I had it on the Xbox and never got to enjoy it too much because of how my xbox is set-up (just a PITA to use). Hopefully my GTX 670 will run BF3 well @ 1080p. What kind of FPS can i expect?
 
eric335 said:
Just purchased BF3 for PC, and its in the midst of downloading (58% thru, at a rate of 2.3 mbs). I had it on the Xbox and never got to enjoy it too much because of how my xbox is set-up (just a PITA to use). Hopefully my GTX 670 will run BF3 well @ 1080p. What kind of FPS can i expect?
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Your 670 will handle it just fine.
 
eric335 said:
Just purchased BF3 for PC, and its in the midst of downloading (58% thru, at a rate of 2.3 mbs). I had it on the Xbox and never got to enjoy it too much because of how my xbox is set-up (just a PITA to use). Hopefully my GTX 670 will run BF3 well @ 1080p. What kind of FPS can i expect?
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As long as your playing around 1920x1080 you should be able to hit high on most if not all settings and keep AA off. The dedicated AA setting doesnt give a great deal of additional quality anyways with FXAA being active when using the postprocessing effect. [H] has a writeup somewhere on here displaying the minimal differences and hugely negative impact standard AA has on BF3.
 
Wildace said:
while i love to be able to throw custom logos and such on vehicles and armor, could you imagine tho how many people would drive tanks around with dicks slapped on the side and then name the tank Penetrator.
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Allow us to decal (white only? So it doesn't get fugly) the usual parts. Tank guns, bombs, and stuff like that.

If you get killed by a custom decaled bomb, it should appear on the middle of your screen to see what it says. Like those bombs "To Saddam, with love".
 
USMCGrunt said:
As long as your playing around 1920x1080 you should be able to hit high on most if not all settings and keep AA off. The dedicated AA setting doesnt give a great deal of additional quality anyways with FXAA being active when using the postprocessing effect. [H] has a writeup somewhere on here displaying the minimal differences and hugely negative impact standard AA has on BF3.
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Im not sure how to check my FPS, but with everything on Ultra and AA on (but not the max setting) i was having very fluid frame rates, and am VERY impressed!


Also, other thoughts, i bought BF3 through the Origin client. Good idea? Wasnt sure how else i could get it without purchasing a physical copy... My CPU showed it was running at around 60-80% when in the middle of a fight, is this to be expected? Im coming from a POS Core2Duo laptop and am not sure what kind of usage to expect
 
defiant007 said:
Ahahahahaha! Yeah, because releasing mod tools would really make a noticeable difference to the hoards of hackers which have infested the game since release?! :rolleyes:



Seriously DICE these days is comprised of nothing but compulsive liars, the number of convoluted and inconsistent excuses they have trotted out is mind boggling. I would have a lot more respect for them if they were just honest and admitted that the real reason for no mod tools was they want to screw every last cent out of the user base and are afraid they cannot compete with a community which will be able to deliver much higher quality content for free,
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We'd have free, fan-made versions of BF1944, BF2143 and Bad Company 3 by now if mod tools were released...and they'd probably be done better and be more balanced than what DICE would produce. No wonder EA/DICE won't let people have them...
 
USMCGrunt said:
As long as your playing around 1920x1080 you should be able to hit high on most if not all settings and keep AA off. The dedicated AA setting doesnt give a great deal of additional quality anyways with FXAA being active when using the postprocessing effect. [H] has a writeup somewhere on here displaying the minimal differences and hugely negative impact standard AA has on BF3.
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With a 670 he could easily run all ultra settings (not just high settings) with decent frames if he leaves the deferred AA off like you mention.
 
Plague_Injected said:
...and they'd probably be done better and be more balanced than what DICE would produce.
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What you talking about Plague.....DICE is all about quality!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBXXUuFrpuY

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eric335 said:
Im not sure how to check my FPS
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in game:
tilde key [~`]
render.drawfps 1

Or create a user.cfg file in the bf3 directory, with "render.drawfps 1" in it if you don't want to type it out each time

Or download fraps or MSI afterburner to show FPS and also record/take screenies!
 
Just upgraded my PC to i5 2500k , 8GB RAM with good old ATI 5870.

Plays great on Auto settings (HIGH) 1920x1200. But I cant get rid of feeling that BF3 picture looks blurry and not sharp. Is it only me who thinks so?

Yesterday I killed 2 guys with 1 shot from a sniper rifle. Guys just lined up so perfectly for a sniper shot :) Enjoying running around with a sniper rifle that is 1 shot kill and 4x scope that doesn't reflect. Very effective on Caspian Border.
 
almalino said:
Just upgraded my PC to i5 2500k , 8GB RAM with good old ATI 5870.

Plays great on Auto settings (HIGH) 1920x1200. But I cant get rid of feeling that BF3 picture looks blurry and not sharp. Is it only me who thinks so?

Yesterday I killed 2 guys with 1 shot from a sniper rifle. Guys just lined up so perfectly for a sniper shot :) Enjoying running around with a sniper rifle that is 1 shot kill and 4x scope that doesn't reflect. Very effective on Caspian Border.
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Tried turning off motion blur? I hate that setting in games...makes any kind of movement feel like I'm looking through the eyes of a drunk.
 
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