Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

I run heavy barrel only on almost all of my guns. Works great and I just compensate for the recoil. Heavy barrel increases your effective range(the range before you hit the lowest damage). So it makes it a good choice if you like medium to long range fights.
 
WarriorX said:
I run heavy barrel only on almost all of my guns. Works great and I just compensate for the recoil. Heavy barrel increases your effective range(the range before you hit the lowest damage). So it makes it a good choice if you like medium to long range fights.
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ive been running supressor so long im kind of scared to go heavy barrel on smaller urban maps
 
FYI for anyone who is interested, I updated my post on the previous page with more information to help plan out your weapon attachments before you enter the game.
 
Is Foregrip+Heavy Barrel a bad option? I've heard some say that yet I've noticed many on BF3 using the combo.
 
Azureth said:
Is Foregrip+Heavy Barrel a bad option? I've heard some say that yet I've noticed many on BF3 using the combo.
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Foregrip
- Pros: Greatly reduces muzzle drift
- Cons: Slightly reduces aimed accuracy

Heavy Barrel
- Pros: Greatly increases aimed accuracy
- Cons: Increases muzzle climb, reduces hip accuracy

I used to run that combo, but I've switched to Foregrip + Laser Sight. I find if I am going for a foregrip, then I'll be shooting from the hip more than aiming, so I try to maximize my hip accuracy.

Foregrip
- Pros: Greatly reduces muzzle drift
- Cons: Slightly reduces aimed accuracy

Laser Sight
- Pros: Increases hip accuracy, can blind enemies
- Cons: Visible to enemies

Here are some direct comparison's of the attachments on an M4A1
http://i.imgur.com/OSjW3.jpg
 
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Maplehamwich said:
Foregrip
- Pros: Greatly reduces muzzle drift (Only horizontal drift which is left to right. Vertical drift/recoil is still the same. Something I didnt know til this morning. I thought it reduced movement)
- Cons: Slightly reduces aimed accuracy

Heavy Barrel
- Pros: Greatly increases aimed accuracy
- Cons: Increases muzzle climb, reduces hip accuracy
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If your gun already has low muzzle drift (G3A3, M16A3, M416) then putting a foregrip on it just reduces your Aiming Down Site accuracy (increasing spread)

Personally I think controlling vertical recoil is 10x more important then horizontal muzzle drift on the rifles.
 
Ron FTL said:
Personally I think controlling vertical recoil is 10x more important then horizontal muzzle drift on the rifles.
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You can always compensate for vertical recoil with single fire and short bursts. You can't do anything to compensate for horizontal drift. If you full auto all the time, I see you point, else I have to disagree.
 
Also, first and second shot are the big recoil numbers. As you continue to shoot, recoil decreases making it easier to compensate. This is a very obvious effect on the Machine Guns in the game, as you can rattle off 100-200 bullets and see the recoil diminish to relatively zilch.

It is a good point though, to make terminology clear. I updated my post on the previous page to help people who may not know!
 
someone on a metro server was 'LOL'ing at me as I emptied entire boxes out the M240B down hallways.

its just easier to go straight full auto on that thing and then aim than it is to try and burst IMO
 
Maplehamwich said:
Also, first and second shot are the big recoil numbers. As you continue to shoot, recoil decreases making it easier to compensate. This is a very obvious effect on the Machine Guns in the game, as you can rattle off 100-200 bullets and see the recoil diminish to relatively zilch.
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The recoil stabilizes (the crosshairs stop moving up) but the spread pattern doesn't get any better. So it is easier to spray the area you want, but you are not really any more likely to hit anything. Normally still better to use short bursts since your chances of hitting with the first shot are higher than with the next 50. Still fun to unload a full magazine in an enclosed space though.
 
Anyone else having issues with autounbalance? It used to be that if you joined a server as a party, your whole party would be put on the same team. Now it seems like since the last patch they've done away with that, and my party mates spend half of the damn round trying to get on the same team. WTF. Does anybody have a solution to this? Are there any servers that don't use the game's stock shitty autounbalancer?
 
Maplehamwich said:
Also, first and second shot are the big recoil numbers. As you continue to shoot, recoil decreases making it easier to compensate. This is a very obvious effect on the Machine Guns in the game, as you can rattle off 100-200 bullets and see the recoil diminish to relatively zilch.

It is a good point though, to make terminology clear. I updated my post on the previous page to help people who may not know!
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This isn't the case for all guns.
 
Reformatted yesterday, can't even play for an hour without the game crashing now. Happens every single time too. Ah well, guess it'll make me take more breaks lol
 
WiLLiSTER said:
Reformatted yesterday, can't even play for an hour without the game crashing now. Happens every single time too. Ah well, guess it'll make me take more breaks lol
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That's okay, it works fine for me and I still can't play for more than an hour because it's just futile. I just played for the first time after the newest patch (by which I mean the big one). What the fuck? When did Battlefield 3 turn into CoD?
 
Uberbob102000 said:
That's okay, it works fine for me and I still can't play for more than an hour because it's just futile. I just played for the first time after the newest patch (by which I mean the big one). What the fuck? When did Battlefield 3 turn into CoD?
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Agreed, and now I am getting banned on some servers for saying the likes of "Fuck, fag, douche bag ect."...the game is mature FFS. Its like the Christian Gaming Servers of CoD4..how does that even make sense? :confused:
 
yea I sometimes get kicked for my name, which is lame. My name with clan tag is- [CUM]LOAD_TO_THE_FACE
 
otapnam said:
ive been running supressor so long im kind of scared to go heavy barrel on smaller urban maps
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The increased damage over range is always nice with the heavy barrel, but you are dead on in your thinking. You have to weigh the impact of visibility on mini map. Conquest and even rush its not so bad because so much is giong on, but its hard to be sneaky. You have to ask yourself, do you feel sneaky? If you hang out behind enemy lines, the decreased visibility is probably more your style. I constanly switch between the two depending on map/game mode and its always an adjustment going back to supressor and the 'decreased' damage and reduced accuracy at range.

ebs5049 said:
http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/04/inside-dice-perfect-setup/

That information helped me out as far as attachment loadouts.
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Nice find. Nice not to have to break out the ti-81 to figure out if a weapon perk combination hurts or helps. I swear though, same combo feels different from day to day. One day, dead on, next cant hit a farm of barns, let alone the broad side of one.
 
Lol. It's funny how you can have one post saying "BF is becoming CoD" and then a few posts later someone talks about breaking out a calculator to figure out optimal weapon stats.
 
FYI per battlefield 3's Facebook post it is a double point weekend. Ie revives,assists etc are all doubled on ranked servers. These points will show up as additional points.
 
Forceman said:
The recoil stabilizes (the crosshairs stop moving up) but the spread pattern doesn't get any better. So it is easier to spray the area you want, but you are not really any more likely to hit anything. Normally still better to use short bursts since your chances of hitting with the first shot are higher than with the next 50. Still fun to unload a full magazine in an enclosed space though.
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As long as you're shooting in the general vicinity of the enemy then he's helpless because of the suppression. Doesn't matter how long it takes to kill someone if they can't shoot back.

M240B = skill cannon
 
Just like EA to push double points on a weekend meant to spend with our mothers.
To bad it isn't fathers day.
 
Master_of_Sparks said:
http://battlefieldo.com/threads/new-dlc-content-service-and-double-xp-weekend.5418/

Battlefield Premium DLC rofl.
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I'll wait for the official announcement before I pass final judgement. However, if official, my level of annoyance with EA/DICE regarding BF3 may finally go to a level where I stop playing on principal. There are still many users with technical issues that have gone unsolved since launch, without EA/DICE even acknowledging any issues let alone working towards fixes. There's actually a dude on the battlelog forums who has taken on the mantle of community tech supporter, yet EA/DICE still does nothing. This Premium DLC etc would just further solidify their "F*ck you, pay me!" stance in regards to their community, and I wouldn't be able to continue to support that by playing the game.
 
Maplehamwich said:
I'll wait for the official announcement before I pass final judgement. However, if official, my level of annoyance with EA/DICE regarding BF3 may finally go to a level where I stop playing on principal. There are still many users with technical issues that have gone unsolved since launch, without EA/DICE even acknowledging any issues let alone working towards fixes. There's actually a dude on the battlelog forums who has taken on the mantle of community tech supporter, yet EA/DICE still does nothing. This Premium DLC etc would just further solidify their "F*ck you, pay me!" stance in regards to their community, and I wouldn't be able to continue to support that by playing the game.
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Technical Problems since launch? I would have assumed by now it's their PC rather than the game itself.
Many people think their PC is setup correctly, when really they are wrong. EA/DICE can't fix your PC.
Not only should a pub/dev provide a "flawless game", but also IT support?
 
WorldExclusive said:
Technical Problems since launch? I would have assumed by now it's their PC rather than the game itself.
Many people think their PC is setup correctly, when really they are wrong. EA/DICE can't fix your PC.
Not only should a pub/dev provide a "flawless game", but also IT support?
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I know most [H]ard fellows here know a ton more about computer setup/troubleshooting/hardware than the average loser on the street.... my own experience with BF3?

Flawless - sure Origin isn't as cool as steam, but I've never been locked out of enjoying my game. In the 250 or so hours I've invested in multiplayer, I've had maybe 2 crashes?

It's one of the pitfalls of PC gaming you just have to learn to live with, no developer can assure 100% compatibility with the hundreds of millions (billions?) of combinations of hardware that are possible.

With Diablo 3 coming up -- I will probably give BF3 an extended break, but it's been hella fun despite issues in the game. If they could just fix the netcode I'd be happy as hell.
 
rdqlus said:
As long as you're shooting in the general vicinity of the enemy then he's helpless because of the suppression. Doesn't matter how long it takes to kill someone if they can't shoot back.

M240B = skill cannon
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Funny how people complain about suppression, but when I try to "suppress" a Recon who's within spitting distance of any given firearm while breaking contact with him he's always able to get a perfectly-aimed headshot on me. Tell me how THAT works.
 
NickN said:
Funny how people complain about suppression, but when I try to "suppress" a Recon who's within spitting distance of any given firearm while breaking contact with him he's always able to get a perfectly-aimed headshot on me. Tell me how THAT works.
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^ This.Sustained fire, controlled bursts, single shot, doesn't matter. Even when firiing first by a substantial margin, I still get popped by returned aimed fire. Yet, if someone sneezes in my general direction I loose the ability to have any accuracy at all.

I assume it is because I have not figured out how to defeat suppression, aim while being suppressed or whatever it is that the other player is doing. I just dont understand the metrics involved so am forced to accept that I will die, even when firing first.

Yo Joe! Knowing is half the battle... er something.
 
The premium DLC doesn't seem to be a big issue. Pay to look different doesn't bother me. Pay to have an awesome gun would be another matter.
 
WorldExclusive said:
Technical Problems since launch? I would have assumed by now it's their PC rather than the game itself.
Many people think their PC is setup correctly, when really they are wrong. EA/DICE can't fix your PC.
Not only should a pub/dev provide a "flawless game", but also IT support?
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I'm sure your psuedo attack on my intelligence was done with the best intentions, but you're wrong. My PC is set up correctly. I've no issues with any other program I've run. No windows crashes, no hardware crashes, no compatibility issues what so ever. I do have issues with audio in Battlefield 3.

And yes, publishers and developers should give technical support. Just as any other piece of software generally has technical support, Battlefield 3 should also have technical support. In fact, as stated, their forum even has a technical support section, but they seem to ignore it.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/view/2832654624694388054/

Here is the community technical support thread. 40 pages and counting of a community member doing what EA/DICE seemingly cannot.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654347786486537/

Here are some other games that have technical support:

WoW
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/1011701/
TheWitcher2
http://en.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?/forum/123-tw2-tech-support/
COD:MW3
http://community.callofduty.com/community/mw3/forums/support/technical_support
Skyrim
http://forums.bethsoft.com/forum/180-pc/
Tropico 4
http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=13933
Torchlight
http://forums.runicgames.com/viewforum.php
Civilization V
http://forums.2kgames.com/forumdisplay.php?86-Civilization-V-Support&
Terraria
http://www.terrariaonline.com/forums/in-game-support.22/
http://www.terrariaonline.com/forums/technical-support.42/
http://www.terrariaonline.com/forums/bug-reports.46/
Borderlands
http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/forumdisplay.php?f=90
Batman Arkham Asylum
http://support.eu.square-enix.com/main.php?la=2&id=2104
Batman Arkham City
http://community.batmanarkhamcity.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/13-Technical-Issues?

And the list goes on for as long as games and software have existed. So, please, don't be an apologist for DICE/EA. Yes people will have technical issues with every piece of software, and no it doesn't mean they are morons or doing something wrong. Companies with good support are seen as good companies (think hardware RMA's etc). Battlefield 3's best (and pretty much only) support is from one of its community members, that means they are seen as a bad company by those who have issues. You don't need to defend them and insult their customers.
 
Maplehamwich said:
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Not defending any company, just questioning a persons statement of having problems playing the game since launch.
Key phrase: Technical Problems since launch. Has there been anytime when the game played without issues, or are there really issues every time that person plays?

Either way, I've encountered most of the issues people had with this game and fixed the issues on my own. Most of the crashes are PB and BL related. Reinstall plug-ins or disable BL after the game loads.
I solve the issue and move on. No need to come into forums and tell everyone else how upset I am.
 
Azureth said:
Wow, DICE can't even manage to get double xp weekend working :(
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was wondering what's going on. seems like i grinded my fav 10k tickets caspian server for nothing today. well, i still got 75k points, but knowing that it could have been double that...
 
Feels like BC3 right now, blood squirting on every hit but you only get a hit marker 25% of the time. :mad:
 
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