Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

Forceman said:
I hope so. They use a lot of mixed terminology. They have "Javelin missiles", "Laser Guided missiles", "AA missiles", "AGM missiles", "Guided rockets", and "TV missiles". The Javelin is called a missile, and it is laser guided, so it technically falls under the "laser guided missile" blanket.

I do like that tank rounds and RPGs will now 1-shot air vehicles.
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but yet not that mixed

javelin = duh

LGM well thats really broad, covers javelin, and GUIDED MISSLES in aircraft/helos

AA = heatseakers I would guess since they are purely AA

AGM guided missles in aircraft/helos

guided rockets are purley in attack helos

TV missle....same.
 
wadec22 said:
suck. joystick seems fun, hard as hell so far though. i'll have to give the mouse, keyboard another shot. i've tried it twice and rolled my chopper clean over within about 20 seconds. :) flying in this game is way harder than i assumed it would be. going to keep practicing though, seems like it could be a blast once you get it down.
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Yeah I figured it was time to get back in to flying so I gave it a shot this morning on the keyboard and mouse in a 1p fast vehicle spawn server and I actually got helicopters down pretty quick. Jets are still a little weird due to being familiar with the joystick, but I feel confident that I could fly decently in an actual game.
 
haunter said:
but yet not that mixed

javelin = duh

LGM well thats really broad, covers javelin, and GUIDED MISSLES in aircraft/helos

AA = heatseakers I would guess since they are purely AA

AGM guided missles in aircraft/helos

guided rockets are purley in attack helos

TV missle....same.
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None of which explains why a laser guided missile would be affected by flares.
 
I guess there is really no way to know for sure how the missile lock on stuff will change the game until it is actually implemented, but I kind of feel like it was fine as it is.
As much as it is possible to completely rape while flying in a chopper it is just as often impossible to even fly when a team actually uses SOFLAMS and javelins and you are seemingly under constant missile lock everyplace on the map.

The biggest missile/counter missile aspect I would like to change is the fact that the ground vehicle smoke will always recharge faster than you can fire another missile. It is the opposite for any of the other lock-ons and countermeasures.
 
-The MAV will now be destroyed when running into a soldier or vehicle at high speed. It is still possible to strategically sacrifice your MAV on a soldier; it will be destroyed in the process.
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FUCK YEAH.

Maybe I'll actually play the game again now that they're finally making important changes.
 
Only started playing this online a week ago. Total noob question here : can any class "spot" an enemy? Or is it only recon? And what is the default key for that? I cant seem to find it in my keybinds..... need to open my eyes I guess. :/
 
Aaron_ATX said:
Only started playing this online a week ago. Total noob question here : can any class "spot" an enemy? Or is it only recon? And what is the default key for that? I cant seem to find it in my keybinds..... need to open my eyes I guess. :/
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Yes, any class can spot an enemy. Just tap Q. If you hold down Q a little longer you'll pull up a menu with some radio commands.
 
thats the menu with "I need backup" and whatnot?

How exactly do you go about spotting them? And that does mean making them visible to your teammates radar right? or is it just squadmates? and how long does that last?

Damn the knife in this game....I can't help but constantly try and dogtag someone if I manage to get close enough.... total tunnel vision lol. Gotten me killed many times when if I woulda just busted out a pistol i could have finished them off....

Oh, and my first time jumping shotgun in a jeep.....driver speeds dukes of hazard style across the entire map until he finds a tank.....full speed into it ... lmfao, boooooooom.
 
Aaron_ATX said:
thats the menu with "I need backup" and whatnot?

How exactly do you go about spotting them? And that does mean making them visible to your teammates radar right? or is it just squadmates? and how long does that last?
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If they are under the crosshairs when you press Q it'll spot the for the whole team, so that's on the minimap and with the orange triangle above their head (depending on server settings). Just a quick tap of Q or else it'll bring up the menu. It lasts about 10 seconds or so? If you spot someone already spotted, it'll reset the spot timer. It is especially helpful to spot vehicles.
 
Man the amount of hackers is getting pretty crazy. Just got out of a game where a bunch of guys were running around shooting through walls, and one shotting people across the map.
 
I have had really good luck lately with servers streaming the GCG anti-cheat or whatever it is....
 
Forceman said:
If they are under the crosshairs when you press Q it'll spot the for the whole team, so that's on the minimap and with the orange triangle above their head (depending on server settings). Just a quick tap of Q or else it'll bring up the menu. It lasts about 10 seconds or so? If you spot someone already spotted, it'll reset the spot timer. It is especially helpful to spot vehicles.
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oh. i had no idea. that helps a ton!
 
I just started playing the SP campaign the other day for the first time. I must say that the graphics on maximum details are just absolutely mind blowing. You can really tell what a difference it makes when a developer puts in the effort to include high resolution textures and other visual effects like volumetric dust/smoke and realistic lens flare. It also runs amazingly well, which is astounding for a DICE developed engine.

That being said, the SP is utterly dull thanks to it being a linear on rails shooting gallery. It's too bad they did not leverage the capabilities of the engine to provide less linear combat scenarios. Although Bad Company 2 is hardly the best metric by which to judge other FPS games given all its flaws, it at least did a better job of giving the player some freedom in how they approached an enemy encounter.

BF 3 seems to be at the other end of COD spectrum....no freedom or tactics, just keep pushing forward until you trip over the invisible line to progress the campaign.
 
Brules said:
I have had really good luck lately with servers streaming the GCG anti-cheat or whatever it is....
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Yeah, I haven't seen someone using cheats for a week or more now. I really wish they would sort out the glitches on Metro though, particularly people getting under the floor at C or above the ceiling on the stairs. Annoying.
 
Brules said:
I have had really good luck lately with servers streaming the GCG anti-cheat or whatever it is....
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I dont care for GCG myself. The other week I was on a server and people were getting auto banned for having over 600 SPM. I dont know how that works, but thats global GCG right? I also dont like how an admin can ban for hacking based on opinion and not an actual detection....I have seen so many bad admins, it worrys me that butthurt admins could reduce the number of servers someone could play on.
I think I see more stupid admins then anything. My friend and I were playing Caspian last night and he just unlocked the MBT guided shell and I thought Id take it for a real run by soflaming from the antenna. He went on a 25 vehicle kill streak before the admin banned him and rage killed our team. Its the 2nd time this week I seen admins do that.

On the plus side, I havent run into any of those mass kill hackers that can kill everyone anywhere at anytime. I still run into the odd hacker that snipes the shit out of everyone, but its not a big deal.

Few nights ago we had this guy aimbotting with the big sniper rifle(and sniping pilots from jets at 2000m with pistols). fortunately he was a retard and played on a killcam server so we could find him, and stay out of line of sight...one of us would pop up, he would headshot my friend or myself and the other one of us would drop him. did it 3-4 times and he quit(and we reported).

I probably peg 30% of players as hackers who try and look legit...
 
Droc said:
I dont care for GCG myself. The other week I was on a server and people were getting auto banned for having over 600 SPM. I dont know how that works, but thats global GCG right? I also dont like how an admin can ban for hacking based on opinion and not an actual detection....I have seen so many bad admins, it worrys me that butthurt admins could reduce the number of servers someone could play on.
I think I see more stupid admins then anything. My friend and I were playing Caspian last night and he just unlocked the MBT guided shell and I thought Id take it for a real run by soflaming from the antenna. He went on a 25 vehicle kill streak before the admin banned him and rage killed our team. Its the 2nd time this week I seen admins do that.

On the plus side, I havent run into any of those mass kill hackers that can kill everyone anywhere at anytime. I still run into the odd hacker that snipes the shit out of everyone, but its not a big deal.

Few nights ago we had this guy aimbotting with the big sniper rifle(and sniping pilots from jets at 2000m with pistols). fortunately he was a retard and played on a killcam server so we could find him, and stay out of line of sight...one of us would pop up, he would headshot my friend or myself and the other one of us would drop him. did it 3-4 times and he quit(and we reported).

I probably peg 30% of players as hackers who try and look legit...
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alot of that is configd by the server admin
 
Droc said:
I dont care for GCG myself. The other week I was on a server and people were getting auto banned for having over 600 SPM. I dont know how that works, but thats global GCG right? I also dont like how an admin can ban for hacking based on opinion and not an actual detection....I have seen so many bad admins, it worrys me that butthurt admins could reduce the number of servers someone could play on.
I think I see more stupid admins then anything. My friend and I were playing Caspian last night and he just unlocked the MBT guided shell and I thought Id take it for a real run by soflaming from the antenna. He went on a 25 vehicle kill streak before the admin banned him and rage killed our team. Its the 2nd time this week I seen admins do that.

On the plus side, I havent run into any of those mass kill hackers that can kill everyone anywhere at anytime. I still run into the odd hacker that snipes the shit out of everyone, but its not a big deal.

Few nights ago we had this guy aimbotting with the big sniper rifle(and sniping pilots from jets at 2000m with pistols). fortunately he was a retard and played on a killcam server so we could find him, and stay out of line of sight...one of us would pop up, he would headshot my friend or myself and the other one of us would drop him. did it 3-4 times and he quit(and we reported).

I probably peg 30% of players as hackers who try and look legit...
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Hey that was me! Pure skillz.

No my favorite so far was the fully auto sniper rifle. Interesting to see on killcam.
 
Droc said:
I dont care for GCG myself. The other week I was on a server and people were getting auto banned for having over 600 SPM. I dont know how that works, but thats global GCG right? I also dont like how an admin can ban for hacking based on opinion and not an actual detection....I have seen so many bad admins, it worrys me that butthurt admins could reduce the number of servers someone could play on.
I think I see more stupid admins then anything. My friend and I were playing Caspian last night and he just unlocked the MBT guided shell and I thought Id take it for a real run by soflaming from the antenna. He went on a 25 vehicle kill streak before the admin banned him and rage killed our team. Its the 2nd time this week I seen admins do that.

On the plus side, I havent run into any of those mass kill hackers that can kill everyone anywhere at anytime. I still run into the odd hacker that snipes the shit out of everyone, but its not a big deal.

Few nights ago we had this guy aimbotting with the big sniper rifle(and sniping pilots from jets at 2000m with pistols). fortunately he was a retard and played on a killcam server so we could find him, and stay out of line of sight...one of us would pop up, he would headshot my friend or myself and the other one of us would drop him. did it 3-4 times and he quit(and we reported).

I probably peg 30% of players as hackers who try and look legit...
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It is pretty sad when your almost sure some of the guys you play with cheat.
Oh well, let them ruin there own good time.
 
Today is the first time I saw stacked teams on


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Caspian Border.

I have never seen this before. Is it because of latest patch? :) Actually, I saw this on 2 different 64 people servers.


Actually, the patch is nice. BF3 feels more finished now and game play is a blast :)
 
almalino said:
Today is the first time I saw stacked teams on


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Caspian Border.

I have never seen this before. Is it because of latest patch? :) Actually, I saw this on 2 different 64 people servers.


Actually, the patch is nice. BF3 feels more finished now and game play is a blast :)
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Unless I missed a trick I don't think the patch is actually live yet - at least in the original patch details they note there is still no ETA for the patch.
 
almalino said:
Today is the first time I saw stacked teams on


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Caspian Border.

I have never seen this before. Is it because of latest patch? :) Actually, I saw this on 2 different 64 people servers.


Actually, the patch is nice. BF3 feels more finished now and game play is a blast :)
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Has the patch actually been released yet? I thought they just revealed the changelog of the update to come.
 
almalino said:
You can ECM SOFLAM. But you cannot ECM locked on flying Javelin. Or you could not previously.
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castun said:
Yeah you could, I've done it tons of times in the helicopter. Sometimes it can reacquire lock though. Breaking line of sight to stop the SOFLAM lock doesn't stop the Javelin lock though, which is kind of absurd IMHO.
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Would like to point out that apparently the latest patch did change the ECM behavior apparently, and I never realized it. You used to always be able to ECM any Javelin or guided shell / guided missile no problem, but not anymore. Not sure if this was even something intentional or not, because there are even people complaining that stingers don't get spoofed by ECM, so it seems to be an issue with ground-launched missiles, both AA & LG.
 
castun said:
Would like to point out that apparently the latest patch did change the ECM behavior apparently, and I never realized it. You used to always be able to ECM any Javelin or guided shell / guided missile no problem, but not anymore. Not sure if this was even something intentional or not, because there are even people complaining that stingers don't get spoofed by ECM, so it seems to be an issue with ground-launched missiles, both AA & LG.
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you can and I have ECM'd flying guided missles

you have to get them to pass through the chaff cloud
 
castun said:
Would like to point out that apparently the latest patch did change the ECM behavior apparently, and I never realized it. You used to always be able to ECM any Javelin or guided shell / guided missile no problem, but not anymore. Not sure if this was even something intentional or not, because there are even people complaining that stingers don't get spoofed by ECM, so it seems to be an issue with ground-launched missiles, both AA & LG.
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Stingers shouldn't get spoofed by ECM, since they are heat-seekers. That's what flares are for.
 
Forceman said:
Stingers shouldn't get spoofed by ECM, since they are heat-seekers. That's what flares are for.
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you can get stuff to blow up in the chaff cloud if you time ECM right and point the jet/helo right

sometimes you avoid all damage other times you just get lower blast damage
 
Great, now I keep getting the disconnected from EA BS all the time now crashing my game.
 
Tonight I realized some people make there way through this game with vehicles only.
These fucking pussies whore vehicles all around unbalancing games, switching teams to stack.
My fucking god the sissy ass way some people play this game blows my mind.

Attack helo's out of range spamming the whole map, the AA, the tanks, jets are you serious?
When a air map team stacks up vehicles it can get about as frustrating a round you can play.

Just venting after a shit 1000 ticket round.
Debating on changing my no quit, no team switching rule.
Here is a perfect example of a vehicle whoring pussy.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/MR_EINST3IN/stats/346527694/
 
U R DOA said:
Tonight I realized some people make there way through this game with vehicles only.
These fucking pussies whore vehicles all around unbalancing games, switching teams to stack.
My fucking god the sissy ass way some people play this game blows my mind.

Attack helo's out of range spamming the whole map, the AA, the tanks, jets are you serious?
When a air map team stacks up vehicles it can get about as frustrating a round you can play.

Just venting after a shit 1000 ticket round.
Debating on changing my no quit, no team switching rule.
Here is a perfect example of a vehicle whoring pussy.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/MR_EINST3IN/stats/346527694/
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He likes vehicles, what's the big deal? Play the game how you want to.
 
Skizzy said:
He likes vehicles, what's the big deal? Play the game how you want to.
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What's the big deal?
Ok he takes helo outside of lock on range, spams map, ecm, gunner flairs.
Yawn...

But he makes a huge difference.
Found something overpowered and how to exploit it.
Tired of ending up on the end of bullshit shenanigans.
I mean hes 50-4 wont come anywhere near the inside of the map.
Checked his profile after the game to see that is all he does.

You would not find me doing that shit. I'll go hard in the attack helo, try my best to live.
But I wont hover outside the map, spamming like its metro with vehicles.
Then you got the jet guys. Oh they can fucking dodge stingers now.
At this point a awesome jet pilot owns any round he wants to.

It fucks up games, add the level 100 AA guy, jet pilots, and tanks.
They would never switch up teams, oh now all four vehicle whores on one team.

Give me a break. Bad server choice I know.
I can still come here and rant, you can move along and ignore me if you want to.
 
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Am I the only one that thinks the AS VAL is really, really kind of too powerful? I mean the accuracy, lack of recoil, the power for being silenced and so on, are crazy.
 
SolidSnakeUS said:
Am I the only one that thinks the AS VAL is really, really kind of too powerful? I mean the accuracy, lack of recoil, the power for being silenced and so on, are crazy.
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It's going to get nerfed in the next patch i think
 
Sly said:
It's going to get nerfed in the next patch i think
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Well then thank god I already got 100 kills with it lol. I'm up to 42 weapons now with at least 100 kills.

From the upcoming patch:

AS VAL: Increased vertical recoil, reduced first shot recoil, reduced accuracy on the move. The AS VAL fires a long range, highly accurate, high damage projectile that favors short bursts or single fire when stationary. While still quite good from the hip, the AS VAL will suffer if fired while moving and aimed.

Added Extended Mags to the ASVAL. The Extended Mags can be unlocked at 200 kills with the AS VAL.
 
Skizzy said:
He likes vehicles, what's the big deal? Play the game how you want to.
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while his k/d ratio is better than mine, i play all kits and have more kills as mostly an infantry player. i do whatever is necessary for my team to win or at least try to win. i will switch kits, jump in a tank/jet/helo to restore balance. most of the time it doesn't work as the others on my team are just fucking about.
 
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