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Asassin's Creed 5: Unity

And that's your problem. You listen to what the whiny bitches on the internet have to say.

What you call a problem I call common sense. It was not a vocal minority, everyone from users to reviewers and lets play videos confirmed that it was an unoptimized buggy pile of shit. That was further corroborated by people I know who attested to how terribly it ran. Even now people are posting in this thread saying that it was a buggy console port.

Also the same people who bitch that games aren't demanding enough for there hardware. And now they bitch when demanding engines make there awesome hardware not run absolutely perfect. And blame it on being a Console port.

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There is a difference between a game which is demanding purely because it is a buggy pile of unoptimized shit on the one hand as opposed to a game that legitimately pushes boundaries in terms of graphics, physics or AI. Unity is not one of those games, if it looked like Crysis 3 with the physics and AI of HL2 then I could understand the high minimum spec.

AC Unity isn't even out yet and it's already called a console port. It's just ridiculous.

Writing is on the wall, you also seem to have trouble grasping that its not even being developed by the same studio working on Unity.

There is nothing in any of the major Ubisoft titles that would make me think its console ports.

Apart from being terribly buggy and horribly optimized. At this point I don't think there is anything that would convince you otherwise.

The AC games have usually been pretty good as far as pc ports go, lots of graphical options (especially black flag).

I played AC 3 recently, despite having been patched 5 or 6 times it still suffers from graphical artifacts, broken terrain meshes (fell through the map several times), bugged AI, inexplicable fps drops, etc.
 
The game is so huge in terms of rendering that it took months to get it to 720p at 30fps. The game was 9fps 9 months ago. We only achieved 900p at 30fps weeks ago.

staying far away from this until the verdict is out, but everything from that statement to the recently released minimum pc requirements screams another unoptimized newbisoft pc port. Why even bother releasing a port if only 5% of the pc market if that meets the minimum requirements. If their aim is to get me to buy it on consoles then theyre shit out of luck, theres zero chance in hell i'm ever going to play another open world 30fps game. After gaming on a 144hz monitor for the past year and a half its seriously torture to my eyes. I tried to play GTA5 and evil within recently on a friends consoles and the motion sickness was real. You can rationalize how 30 fps isn't so bad with proper motion blur, controller.... but how do you close pandoras box once its been opened?
 
They should have stayed at 9fps, wouldnt that be more cinematic? :D

Now youre just being silly.

Let's go back and focus our ire on what hurts the most: Uplay title. Every time I redeem a Uplay code, I die a little inside. I feel dirty. I let the water just run over me in the shower like some college freshman sodomized on the first date. Because every time someone activates a Uplay title, a thousand french-canadian smiles light up all over Montreal, all with an overbite.
 
I'm really excited for this game to be honest from a graphical/technical standpoint. It's one of the first current gen console ports to arrive on PC and the system requirements are staggering to say the least.
We've only had a few current gen console ports so far and if they continue to be as "demanding" as this game there's going to be a strong need to upgrade hardware if we want to keep up with the peasants and their $30 netbook CPU/APUs. Clearly there is no regard whatsoever to try to optimize this in the slightest for PC, despite working with Nvidia.

I'm at least hoping the damn thing will support SLI day one because honestly as much as I hate Ubisoft I actually really enjoy the series and am genuinely looking forward to playing it. I don't think a single 780Ti can handle this at 1440p, so it better take advantage of my second card.
 
as this thread shows the issue is not really about Assassin's Creed or any other Ubisoft game...it's that people are just biased against Ubisoft...won't give them any benefit of the doubt...the Watch Dogs graphics downgrade was a huge clusterfuck but it was their first major screwup...people keep railing against Uplay but I've never had any issues with it...OK, I had one...it once erased my latest Brotherhood cloud save forcing me to replay a large section of the game...but after that I always disable 'cloud save synchronization' in the Uplay settings and I've never run into any problems since

most developers/publishers have had their issues with one title or another- from iD Software to Bethesda to Blizzard to Bioware etc...only developer with a spotless record might be CD Projekt (Witcher series)
 
people keep railing against Uplay but I've never had any issues with it...OK, I had one...it once erased my latest Brotherhood cloud save forcing me to replay a large section of the game...but after that I always disable 'cloud save synchronization' in the Uplay settings and I've never run into any problems since

I've never really a problem with Uplay per se', however I have a child-like need to have all my games in one place (Steam). So when I'm settling into the beanbag chair, rubbing oil into my chest and scanning for a title to play a few hours in Steam Big Picture mode, the UPlay titles are out of sight and out of mind, and if I remember one, its too much of a hassle to launch from the 10' interface. I guess the problem is UPlay offers nothing of value over what Steam already provides. I understand why companies like Ubi, EA, WB want to do their own digital distro, but my inner child no care. I also realize UPlay has nothing to do with the energy that the AC:Unity team poured into the game, so /derail
 
I've never really a problem with Uplay per se', however I have a child-like need to have all my games in one place (Steam). So when I'm settling into the beanbag chair, rubbing oil into my chest and scanning for a title to play a few hours in Steam Big Picture mode, the UPlay titles are out of sight and out of mind, and if I remember one, its too much of a hassle to launch from the 10' interface. I guess the problem is UPlay offers nothing of value over what Steam already provides. I understand why companies like Ubi, EA, WB want to do their own digital distro, but my inner child no care. I also realize UPlay has nothing to do with the energy that the AC:Unity team poured into the game, so /derail

You could always add your uPlay games to your steam library. It takes about 5 seconds to do.
 
You could always add your uPlay games to your steam library. It takes about 5 seconds to do.

How do you get a steam code for uPlay games?

I bought Far Cry 3 on Amazon because it was heavily discounted, but sadly they only provided the Uplay code, so I was never able to add it to my Steam library.
 
How do you get a steam code for uPlay games?

I bought Far Cry 3 on Amazon because it was heavily discounted, but sadly they only provided the Uplay code, so I was never able to add it to my Steam library.
You do not get a Steam code. All you get to do is add it to Steam Library and launch from there as if the game was on Steam. However, I find that retarded since first Steam will launch the game and then Uplay will launch and then you will be in game.

I have had no problems with Uplay except their shit cloud system which I turned off. Farcry 3 was awesome game. Uplay is also just fine as a download service (has faster download speeds than Steam in my region).

Love how people continue to bitch about stuff without trying it or having that one bad experience years ago when Uplay was in beta.

Back to Ass Creed Unity. Pretty psyched about it. Hopefully it will deliver. Haven't played a French Revolution game ever.
 
You do not get a Steam code. All you get to do is add it to Steam Library and launch from there as if the game was on Steam. However, I find that retarded since first Steam will launch the game and then Uplay will launch and then you will be in game.

I have had no problems with Uplay except their shit cloud system which I turned off. Farcry 3 was awesome game. Uplay is also just fine as a download service (has faster download speeds than Steam in my region).

Love how people continue to bitch about stuff without trying it or having that one bad experience years ago when Uplay was in beta.

Back to Ass Creed Unity. Pretty psyched about it. Hopefully it will deliver. Haven't played a French Revolution game ever.

The point to adding it to his Steam library is because he uses Steam Big Picture. Adding the game into your Steam library allows you to launch the game in Big Picture mode -- aka launch the game from your couch with a controller. And also having steam overlay and friends list accessible as well. It's not just adding it for the lulz or whatever.
 
as this thread shows the issue is not really about Assassin's Creed or any other Ubisoft game...it's that people are just biased against Ubisoft...won't give them any benefit of the doubt...the Watch Dogs graphics downgrade was a huge clusterfuck but it was their first major screwup...

Good thing Ubi has loyal fans like you to stand up to all the internet bullies who don't have the memory retention of a gold fish when it comes to remembering Ubi's fuck ups.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-18-user-uproar-over-from-dust-pc-port

http://www.computerandvideogames.co...es-fix-for-ghost-recon-future-soldier-pc-bug/

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/splinter-cell-blacklist-plagued-by-problems-on-pc/0120492

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ubisoft-on-pc-you-don-t-really-care-about-the-performance/0124677

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/115375-Ubisoft-Defends-Then-Changes-Anno-DRM

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/9462-Ubisoft-A-Sad-History-of-PC-Failures

Farcry 3 was awesome game.

Probably to do with the fact that Farcry was one of the few Ubi games primarily developed for PC in recent history. Everything else is console first.

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/far-cry-4-ubisoft-claims-that-the-pc-is-the-lead-platform/

Previously, we developed on PC, primarily, which is actually unusual, like, Assassin’s we develop on console, so we can push the boundary of the console as hard as we can.

Too bad Farcry 4 has been farmed out to Ubi Kiev.
 
Good thing Ubi has loyal fans like you to stand up to all the internet bullies who don't have the memory retention of a gold fish when it comes to remembering Ubi's fuck ups

yup it's not like any other developer has had any fuck ups :rolleyes: ...shall we list all the games/developers in recent history who have screwed up in terms of gameplay, DRM, bugs, console ports etc?...it's like I said there are certain people like you obsessed with bashing Ubisoft...who cares about From Dust and some of those other games...DRM is not something Ubisoft developed...judging from your posts here at [H] it seems you hate pretty much every game ever released
 
You do not get a Steam code. All you get to do is add it to Steam Library and launch from there as if the game was on Steam. However, I find that retarded since first Steam will launch the game and then Uplay will launch and then you will be in game.

I have had no problems with Uplay except their shit cloud system which I turned off. Farcry 3 was awesome game. Uplay is also just fine as a download service (has faster download speeds than Steam in my region).

Love how people continue to bitch about stuff without trying it or having that one bad experience years ago when Uplay was in beta.

Back to Ass Creed Unity. Pretty psyched about it. Hopefully it will deliver. Haven't played a French Revolution game ever.

I think you are talking about adding a non-Steam game to your library. This is not the same thing.

Console gamers have Xbox Live and PSN as the network for finding multiplayer matches, connecting with friends, tracking achievements, sharing videos etc. PC gamers have Steam. Uplay and Origin are poor imitations.

I regret buying FC3 from a third party without checking more carefully to confirm whether the Steam code is included. You can't play the co-op with Steam friends, you can't share videos, screenshots or guides to your Steam profile and activity feed, and you can't post reviews, etc.

Also the achievement aspect of the gameplay is not fun without Steam. I don't feel interested in getting achievements on Uplay or Origin games, because I know at some point I'm going to eventually buy this game for Steam, and then I would need to get them all over again anyways.

The point to adding it to his Steam library is because he uses Steam Big Picture. Adding the game into your Steam library allows you to launch the game in Big Picture mode -- aka launch the game from your couch with a controller. And also having steam overlay and friends list accessible as well. It's not just adding it for the lulz or whatever.

Yes, Big Picture is a great UI, often use it when gaming on external HD projector from the sofa. I think it works fine with non-Steam games though.
 
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yup it's not like any other developer has had any fuck ups :rolleyes: ...shall we list all the games/developers in recent history who have screwed up in terms of gameplay, DRM, bugs, console ports etc?

Some screw up more than others, I don't buy/play their games either.

...it's like I said there are certain people like you obsessed with bashing Ubisoft...

I bash EA as well, maybe I just don't sugar coat publisher bullshit with the same vigor that apologists like you do.

who cares about From Dust and some of those other games...

Yeah, lets just forget all the indiscretions....I'm sure Ubi will learn its lesson if we keep buying their half arsed games.

DRM is not something Ubisoft developed...

I don't think anyone has ever claimed they did, but you will be hard pressed to find a more draconian DRM than what Ubi implemented.

judging from your posts here at [H] it seems you hate pretty much every game ever released

So the only way to address any of my points is to discredit me by saying I hate all games ever released? You seem to be grasping if you need to resort to hyperbolic ad hominem. If it would put your mind at ease I can happily provide a list of games that I rate highly....including *shock* *horror*, Ubi published titles like Assassin's Creed 2, Beyond Good & Evil, Farcry 1, Splintercell, PoP Sands of Time, etc.
 
I bash EA as well, maybe I just don't sugar coat publisher bullshit with the same vigor that apologists like you do

if I'm an 'apologist' for enjoying the AC series then so be it...and yes I enjoyed Watch Dogs (with the SweetFX mod) as well...a game doesn't have to be the greatest of all time or perfect for it to be enjoyable...AC has a lot of flaws but I'm not looking for perfection...if it comes around then great...a B grade is still very good...seems like you only want to play A+ games which is your prerogative...the problem with armchair internet reviewers these days is that a game needs to be the greatest ever or it sucks...there's no middle ground

guys like you always see the glass as half empty versus half full...Ubisoft is no better or worse then a lot of other AAA developers/publishers...everyone has their flaws and bad games (CD Projekt might be the only one unblemished)
 
I think you are talking about adding a non-Steam game to your library. This is not the same thing.

Console gamers have Xbox Live and PSN as the network for finding multiplayer matches, connecting with friends, tracking achievements, sharing videos etc. PC gamers have Steam. Uplay and Origin are poor imitations.

I regret buying FC3 from a third party without checking more carefully to confirm whether the Steam code is included. You can't play the co-op with Steam friends, you can't share videos, screenshots or guides to your Steam profile and activity feed, and you can't post reviews, etc.

Also the achievement aspect of the gameplay is not fun without Steam. I don't feel interested in getting achievements on Uplay or Origin games, because I know at some point I'm going to eventually buy this game for Steam, and then I would need to get them all over again anyways.



Yes, Big Picture is a great UI, often use it when gaming on external HD projector from the sofa. I think it works fine with non-Steam games though.
As far as I know even if you have Farcry 3 on steam, it won't have steam achievements or allow you to co-op through steam friends list. That is my knowledge of the game. I maybe wrong though since almost all of my Ubi games are on Uplay and I have almost all of the Ubi games i.e., Ass Creed, Farcry, Splinter Cell and Ghost Recon.
 
There's an important distinction here. There are many uPlay games that, IF PURCHASED ON STEAM or via a STEAM CODE, will register on Steam. Yes, it will still have uPlay and install it and launch it when the game is launched etc... but it will be a "Steam" copy. However, many keys sold are uPlay CODES, which are "directly' verified on Uplay. I have both types of Ubi titles. For instance, I have Assassin's Creed 2, Brotherhood, Liberation, etc.. on Steam, but because of deals I got elsewhere (mostly greenmangaming) AC4 Gold and Spinter Cell etc... were uPlay direct versions.

Now, not all of them may have Steam cards etc... but if you have a Steam code version of any uPlay title and load it on Steam you will be entitled to review as you were a "buyer" on Steam and all the rest. Achievements and whatnot may be uPlay linked instead, but that's up to each game. Its just a matter of deciding if you want the Steam version or not and being willing to look for a key for it at the right price. I'm very glad that both AC Unity and FarCry 4 have their "gold versions" for sale in the West this time, which includes all the Season Pass plus other DLC etc... because it means I'll probably be able to go and apply a 25-30% coupon from GMG for it and save a lot of money. Now, would I like to find a Steam key? Sure. But I won't pass up potentially more than 30% savings to get one either - uPlay is not particularly "bothersome" to me, at least since recent Assassin's Creed games and whatnot. They don't spam me, there is no "always on DRM" (ie you can play offline as long as you downloaded everything at one point and registered the game to your account etc.). Would I rather that Ubi wouldn't have a separate "Uplay" account? Sure. However, it isn't a huge deal.

As a strange aside, I have to commend uPlay for one thing - points you earn from in-game achievements in uPlay games, actually allow you to trade them in for in-game content! Long, long ago this is what I thought Xbox Live Achivement / PSOnline Trophy points ( and later, Steam ranks/achievements ) would be - you turned in your achievement points to unlock free DLC. Yes, I know that many of these titles also have pay DLC and that's its own issue, but I have to say I'd rather see a world where DLC could be "paid for" within a given network with achievement points from said network, much like how uPlay points achieved in one game can be "saved" and applied towards another's rewards if you wish.
 
Ubisoft has teased a mysterious new section of Assassin's Creed: Unity which appears to be set during World War 2...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRxMhylBGn0

I really hope this is a DLC or option mission or something, because it looks stupid. I've always the modern day / animus parts as it were. Assassins Creed would be so much better if they were just set in the time periods they are supposed to be in, no stupid sci-fi crap. It seemed like in AC4 the modern day bits were almost non-existent and I liked that. If they are going to ramp back up on the sci-fi crap, i'm a lot less interested.
 
I really hope this is a DLC or option mission or something, because it looks stupid. I've always the modern day / animus parts as it were. Assassins Creed would be so much better if they were just set in the time periods they are supposed to be in, no stupid sci-fi crap. It seemed like in AC4 the modern day bits were almost non-existent and I liked that. If they are going to ramp back up on the sci-fi crap, i'm a lot less interested.

The overall storyline is culminating in a sci-fi arc really, so it's just a matter of time.
 
I thought Unity was going to be a fresh start and the whole Desmond Miles sci-fi stuff was gone...I'm sure there will be a new Animus present day story but I thought they were trying to move in a new direction with Unity to make the game more accessible to newcomers
 
Looks like they've, as usual, gone the path of the lowest denominator (Xbox One) with AC5 on consoles: locked at 900p, 30 FPS. I'm definitely going with PC, even if this game will bring my 290x to its knees at 4k.

I must say, having lived and gone to uni in Paris, and having poured over medieval to la Commune Parisian history for the past 20 years, this game is a bit of a wet dream for me. I'll be interested in seeing how accurate they got the layout of the 1780s.
 
Its a pity that console issues are limiting at all, to be honest; I hope this will not affect the PC version. I've enjoyed pretty much every AC title to date (and yes, I like the sci-fi and conspiracy elements, but think they could often be done smarter/better. I also though many of the Connor-era story elements in ACIII were majorly lacking; it wasn't well written. Haytham himself was such a better character and he deserved better), so I'm interested in giving this a try, especially given the time frame and locale.

I'm curious about the multiplayer and the "integrated single/multiplayer" system; I hope it will be more advanced and cooperative than Watch Dogs (which admittedly, I did not play as of yet.). After all the whining about lacking a female assassin (much I considered undeserved - ACIII multiplay for instance had tons of female characters, and AC Liberation HD is of course, with a female main character. This is not the series to whine about poor diversity), I have to admit that it is a bit of a disappointment that all 4 "main" characters seem to be pallet-swapped and nothing more - is this a console limitation or something?

Looks like I'm going to have to pick up one of the UPlay direct versions, as it appears that GreenManGaming is once again only selling the UPlay, not the Steam version. I'd like to go with Steam (whhich I know also requires UPlay) but the 23-30% discount from GoG is enough to make me overlook otherwise.
 
For people wondering about combat and how different it is, here is what happens when you get surrounded:

https://gfycat.com/CreepyGlamorousFoxterrier

In the old AC games that'd be nothing big, just sit there, wait for counter, clean house.

In this one not only can you not counter (you can parry though, and do something called a perfect parry, not sure what that does though) but also on top of this the AI doesn't just sit back and go at you one vs one , they have no qualms about using their numbers.

I am still on the fence about the game, the latest trailers and things has got me excited but I grew a bit tired of AC with AC revlations, AC3/4 offered the series a breathe of fresh air in terms of setting (Rural areas in AC3,t ree climbing, ships, etc). To me Unity looks to be going back to a revlations style of setting and getting rid of the brilliant ship combat from 3/black flag.

I just hope the stealth/combat improvements hold up and the story overall is worth playing through, depending on reviews I will get it.

Also since it's bundled with nvidia cards hopefully I can find it for around 30 bucks, I'll probably snag it at that price.
 
Pretty interesting. That's probably just what the series needed.
Thanks to the Nvidia/Ubisoft deal I now have this game for free, so if it's just more of the same I can now live with that. As tired as the formula has become, the games have still all been fun and I've played all of them from beginning to end.
 
FYI, anytime somebody posts something pro NVidia the AMD users here get an instant alert and it makes their sphincter quiver in righteous irrational anger. Expect the following talking points:


  • Proprietary.
  • They paid developer off.
  • Not open source.
  • Sabotages AMD card performance.

Thanks for trying to make sure that conversation happens. I'm glad you contributed in such a positive and preemptive way by warning everyone.
 
For those who are interested and intend to pick up the game, yet want to save as much money as possible - some important info.

GreenManGaming says that none of their regular "vouchers" (including the one now that gives 23% off!) work on the NA version of AC5:U. If you're in the EU, you're good. However, there's still a way to get a discount. PlayFire, the community/service associated with GMG has "rewards" - basically, you play certain games and whatnot, and you get a few cents here and there of GMG credit etc. However, there are some games that reward a 25% Voucher that can be used on ANY purchase regardless of region!

Right now, "Dishonored", "Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim", and "Lords of the Fallen" all reward a 25% off voucher upon completion of 1 hour of play! How is this measured? Thankfully it doesn't require any proprietary stuff as I was worried, but rather just sign into your Steam account through PlayFire. YOU MUST SET YOUR STEAM PROFILE TO PUBLIC AT LEAST UNTIL YOU GET YOUR REWARD. Once you create or use a Playfire account that is bound to your Steam account, play an hour of any of the above games (hell, let it idle if you wish) and you should get a GMG 25% off key delivered to your email address upon completion! Note that you have to EARN the voucher before the end of the promo period tomorrow, and USE it before Nov 10th, which shoul dbe just enough time to secure yourself AC5:U!

Once you have your code, take it to the Voucher box when you check out from GMG and you're set! Note, GMG has the "Gold Edition" of ACU which as all of the DLC, the pre-order benefits, the Season Pass, and more included, so using it on this will give you the biggest saving. Note this is a different "item" on the store than the normal version, so be sure you choose which you wish.



More info - https://www.playfire.com/a/rewards

Enjoy getting around Ubi's refusal to allow GMG voucher codes for NA game versions! Note that if this works for you and you plan to buy Far Cry 4, using the same process on one of the remaining games I listed above (ie played Dishonored for an hour to get a 25% code, play Skyrim for another one etc) it may be a good time to do so.

Enjoy!
 
GreenManGaming says that none of their regular "vouchers" (including the one now that gives 23% off!) work on the NA version of AC5:U. If you're in the EU, you're good. However, there's still a way to get a discount. PlayFire, the community/service associated with GMG has "rewards" - basically, you play certain games and whatnot, and you get a few cents here and there of GMG credit etc. However, there are some games that reward a 25% Voucher that can be used on ANY purchase regardless of region

an even easier way is to just wait for people to start selling their Nvidia 'Pick your Path' gaming bundles in the For Sale forums...you'll pay less then that 23% GMG discount
 
an even easier way is to just wait for people to start selling their Nvidia 'Pick your Path' gaming bundles in the For Sale forums...you'll pay less then that 23% GMG discount

If you're looking for a standard copy of the game this may very well be true, but most of the time those Nvidia coupons don't include any of the pre-order/locational DLC, nor do they offer the Season Pass, or the "Gold Edition" which has pretty much everything. If this one is different, I'd be interested but when I picked up the Gold Edition + pre order/locational etc... at 25% off plus a few dollars from other GMG reward credit (I ultimately paid something like $56 dollars for the Gold Edition), i'f be surprised if one could find a better deal.
 
Yeah unfortunately the only place you get a preorder "discount" in NA is plastered all over uPlay's shop as a uPlay exclusive. That's why GMG can't officially offer one in NA. I loaded up uPlay last night to make sure my ACU promo went through. I saw a preload button that didn't work but I had to try ;).

I am certainly going to hate uPlay. It most certainly is a big POS. I forgot I had Prince of Persia Forgotten Sands on uPlay so I installed it an tried to play it. Apparently uPlay doesn't like DS4Tool or any of the tools that let me use my Dual Shock 4 controllers as a XB360 game pad. It works but has many issues. uPlay some how interferes with the drivers and the game. Freezing the game for 35-120seconds to bring up the menu and similarly when it switches back and forth between the game and a cut scene. It just freezes you wait as much as 2 minutes, then it continues in like fast forward mode as if it's trying to catch up from the pause, then pauses again and then you can play the game normally. If you use a kb/m no issues at all, use the original XB360 controller for windows, no problem, but an alternate controller emulating a XB360 controller and it goes nuts. Worst part is it messes up the DS4Tool drivers permanently till you reboot. If you power off the controller, you can't connect it back to the PC even if you exit out of uPlay, close the DS4Tool interface and start it again. uPlay took over something and won't let it go. The only fix I found was to reboot.
 
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