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They didn't drop support for opencl, they broke some things in their drivers that caused it to fail in a bunch of things. I don't know if it's been fixed honestly as I don't have a Navi card, just wanted to clarify. Not that it makes much difference if you can't use it, but they didn't intentionally disable it (unless I misunderstood what everyone was complaining/saying).For AMD, probably reference if their card is worth while to buy, for Nvidia EVGA is my first choice. Many factors will come into play:
No telling in the short run here on what card or cards I will pick up when the next generation hits, just have to evaluate when the time comes when they are available and what is going on.
- Support for next generation of monitors and TVs -> DP 2.0 and/or HDMI 2.1
- Perf/cost
- Nvidia great Cuda support gives them an edge up in general in my case
- Note: AMD dropped OpenCL support for Navi gaming cards while supplying OpenCL to their Pro Navi cards -> Pro-Render uses OpenCL
- Without word or notice, AMD just flat out rejected Navi owners from even using their own 3d rendering software unless you forked up the money for their Pro cards while Nvidia cards still supports OpenCL 1.2 so Pro-Render works on all Turing cards and before
- Cuda is well supported on a number of 3d renderers like Octane and VRay (both will use the RT cores for further speed)
- Overall RT performance and features. This for me is more than just for games.
Your right, thanks for the correction, Luxmark now works, which is an OpenCL program. Version 13 of Modo had ProRender which failed to work with the 5700XT AE for several months plus other OpenCL stuff. Blender as well with ProRender was not working. Have not tried it since and missed any driver updates on this. Thanks!They didn't drop support for opencl, they broke some things in their drivers that caused it to fail in a bunch of things. I don't know if it's been fixed honestly as I don't have a Navi card, just wanted to clarify. Not that it makes much difference if you can't use it, but they didn't intentionally disable it (unless I misunderstood what everyone was complaining/saying).
No problems. I mean, they have a hard time with the drivers apparently, but they don't just turn off random features and put artificial limitations (I'm looking at you Nvidia and your artificial 2 transcode limit). Both are annoying, but one may eventually get fixed, while the other will never change.Your right, thanks for the correction, Luxmark now works, which is an OpenCL program. Version 13 of Modo had ProRender which failed to work with the 5700XT AE for several months plus other OpenCL stuff. Blender as well with ProRender was not working. Have not tried it since and missed any driver updates on this. Thanks!
Pretty sure I'm going to wait on MSI Gaming X version of 3080Ti as I have good experience with Gaming X cards.
There were few token $999 2080Ti's, in many cases with not such a good experience. While most were even above the price of the FE cards. Ampere may follow suite with an advertised lower price that you can never grab. Just choose the one that will best give you what you want, many of us can wait months on end since we are already having a great gaming experience which the new cards may not even give that much more in the end. It is unknown at this point how good is the supply, I expect Nvidia to have a very sound product but have no idea if Samsung can deliver the quantities needed for the complex Ampere GPUs. Nor how worthy AMD RNDA 2x will be which may be the better choice once we know more.The real question is.. if the 3080ti is announced as “starting at $999” and the founders edition card is $1199 or $1149 (and so is every other FE card sold by 3rd parties) with no cheaper custom cooler designs available on day 1 or potentially for a while, do you get the FE/reference card or wait for cheaper cards?
The reference design "Founder's Edition" GPU from Nvidia looks gorgeous and so I hope they follow something similar for the 3080Ti/3090 etc. I had 2x 2080 Ti Founder's Edition for a while and then got 2x Asus RoG Strix 2080 Ti's which are very thick and hog up a LOT of space inside the case like below:
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Killer rig you have.. How is your Arctic 2 280mm holding out? Was thinking of getting one for my upcoming Ryzen 7 - 47/or 4800X cpu upgrade