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Apple Making an iMac Touch

pankkake said:
Touch is a fad.
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"Some people get it, and some people don't..."

This is going to turn into the new age version of "PC vs Mac" as time goes by, with people taking sides on the "Touch Brigade" and those on the "Three Finger Salute Corps" I swear. In fact, the only other argument or one-to-one comparison I've seen that had so many people willing to be so vocal - actually I guess I should say key-happy since this is a text-based communication medium - IS the PC vs Mac debate. Funny how that happens...

All I'll say is this: if you were with me for 30 minutes as I worked an HP TouchSmart desktop PC with that gorgeous 23" multitouch display, you'd see what's possible as I zipped through anything you'd ask me to demonstrate, etc. I've done that on several occasions at the Fry's here in my town and people are just astonished when I get going at a good pace. Doesn't matter what it is, it's possible and I can do it, so can those that get it.

It's ok to dismiss it for the time being, but to flat out try to brush the concepts and technology aside as insignificant or irrelevant is ten steps past ignorance and fast approaching stupid.

I'll amend my previous statement to say this:

Me but now amended said:
I said this years ago and I continue to repeat it from time to time: someday all input with computers/devices will be based primarily on touch and voice recognition, and physical keyboards with moving components/parts will simply fall to the wayside.
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But whatever. I could argue and be technically accurate that we already do control our computers by touch since we're using them with our hands save for a few that may have physical maladies requiring different forms of control... :p

It just gets old to point out where things are headed - meaning into the future with such input technologies as completely touch/multitouch and voice controlled devices - and having someone call such things a fad even in spite of those technologies moving into our lives at this very moment. That's just asinine and incredibly short-sighted...
 
heatlesssun said:
Please enlighten me, what Wacom support, I thought OS X worked well with Wacom digitzers. They definately work well with Windows but pens are a much bigger thing in the Windows world.
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It's mainly with Corel Painter that this happens. OSX Drivers = Bad. Suddenly erratic and innaccurate, weird clicking, error messages and being like the shift is held down. After it's fixed it comes back after every update. With Corel painter this is fudged even more. Theres a whole load of reasons why every digital artist I know avoids OSX. There was some article before... found it! It even says about the wacoms! I only have to use them in one studio but thats a major headache. Hate the slow ass things.
 
one more thing that apple could have brought out years ago, but instead wants to make as much money as he can by selling everything else thats a year behind most PC's and then coming out with something new AGAIN just to suck up people's money...
 
heatlesssun said:
Which currently no Mac has anyway.
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The Mac Pro and mini don't even come with displays. Nothing to stop you from buying a touch screen display and using it as a primary display with either system, as a secondary on an iMac, or as a primary or secondary display on MacBooks.

heatlesssun said:
You should some of the shit that the Apple faithful were throwing my way over the W100, totally trashing a device they hadn't even seen and as rude as anything.
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I seem to recall someone trashing the iPad before it was released. I even seem to recall myself trashing the iPad the day it was announced. Funny thing.

It's also interesting that you'd refer to those who own both Macs and Windows PCs as "Apple faithful". It's akin to referring to a married man with a girl on the side as being faithful to his wife, don't you think?

heatlesssun said:
...Apple will bring it to their real OS machines
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iPhone OS/iOS is a real OS.
 
phide said:
I seem to recall someone trashing the iPad before it was released. I even seem to recall myself trashing the iPad the day it was announced. Funny thing.
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And what's even funnier is that while I made my jokes I predicted that it would be sucessful and I understood it's value in many ways. And I'm the fan boy pimping tm2s.

phide said:
It's also interesting that you'd refer to those who own both Macs and Windows PCs as "Apple faithful". It's akin to referring to a married man with a girl on the side as being faithful to his wife, don't you think?
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Simple, no matter what another OS or product can do, Apple products are ALWAYS superior in every way shape and form. Windows has had pen and touch support with devices having it built in for years but only now will the Apple faithful see any value in having a desktop OS on touch screen devices. They only run Windows because of its superior third party support for things like gaming.

As I have said many times, if you like Macs awesome. If they serve your needs then more power to you. I'd use Macs if they put money in my pocket or if there were unique capabilities or form factors that I could use personally. But it doesn't mean that I don't acknolwedge different strokes for different folks.

phide said:
iPhone OS/iOS is a real OS.
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Yes it is, and yet Apple seems to want to add touch support to their desktops. Perhaps iOS isn't real enough then. I don't see iOS going into 27" iMacs any time soon for instance. Or a MBP.
 
heatlesssun said:
Simple, no matter what another OS or product can do, Apple products are ALWAYS superior in every way shape and form...They only run Windows because of its superior third party support for things like gaming.
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So they believe Apple products are superior in every way, shape and form, yet they also admit that Windows is superior for gaming (which it is) by using it for gaming.

Makes sense.
 
pankkake said:
No. Touch is slow, dirty, inaccurate and tiring. The only interesting place for touch (and trackpads) is when the space is limited. And anyway, I+prefer sliding keyboards. Touch is a fad.
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You know, nearly every major fast food chain and sit-down restaurant chain would disagree with you.

Keyboards pick up a TON more dirt, dust, and food particles in an environment like that and cannot be wiped clean with a damp rag and maybe some isopropyl alcohol in water.

McD's, Wendys, and a million other places have been using touch ordering systems for quite a few years now.

Granted, you are right about touch being a good idea in limited space, which I think, in addition to cleanliness, is why most food service locations use touch. Saves space, flat surface is easier to clean.
 
phide said:
So they believe Apple products are superior in every way, shape and form, yet they also admit that Windows is superior for gaming (which it is) by using it for gaming.

Makes sense.
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Exactly, it doesn't which is why it's so freeking hilarious!:D Just go over to the Steam Mac forums and you'll see it all the time. "Windows sucks. Boy I wish I could run Xyz game on a Mac. And BTW Windows sucks."

Even when Windows is CLEARLY better for the task it still sucks. And if you say this attitude doesn't exist you're not being honest. This is what I mean by the Apple faithful.

And while the same attitude exists among PC users it simply isn't quite the same simply because Windows desktop has no real serious functionality deficiencies. If it runs on a desktop computer, the overwhelming majority of the time it's available on Windows.
 
[Tripod]MajorPayne;1036095142 said:
Granted, you are right about touch being a good idea in limited space, which I think, in addition to cleanliness, is why most food service locations use touch. Saves space, flat surface is easier to clean.
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Excellent point. It seems as people think that just becuase they can't see fingerprints and dirt that they are not there.
 
They patented that technology from what I hear... How can they do that when HP and Sony already had a touchscreen desktop AiO....
 
phide said:
The Mac Pro and mini don't even come with displays. Nothing to stop you from buying a touch screen display and using it as a primary display with either system, as a secondary on an iMac, or as a primary or secondary display on MacBooks.
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Problem. How many touchscreen displays will have drivers for OSX? Not like you can just plug it in and expect it to work. It's not Windows.
 
this is... gonna be revolutionary! hurry buy them up and resale them on ebay! (just hope that it will be like ipad)
 
hahajung said:
this is... gonna be revolutionary! hurry buy them up and resale them on ebay! (just hope that it will be like ipad)
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So you want to buy something that is commonly thought of as a peice of junk? Usually somethings price is gained from it's worth. Which is why ATI/AMD is cheap and firefox/trolling is free, bwahahahaha... but then again this is a crApples product which are pretty consistantly double the price they are originally worth. Sometimes tripple. Sometimes 1000x (macpros)
 
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