Apple Hardware Engineer Charged With Stealing Trade Secrets

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  1. cageymaru

    cageymaru [H]ard|News

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    An Apple autonomous car engineer has been charged with stealing trade secrets from the Cupertino, CA company after he was detained while boarding a plane to China. Xiaolang Zhang claimed that he was severing ties with Apple to work for Chinese autonomous car startup XMotors, but purchased a round trip ticket to China instead. He broke the terms of his employment to enter Apple's campus multiple times while on maternity leave to steal items and download trade secrets. His ruse was discovered when his one day data usage exceeded his monthly data average on his company issued devices.

    Authorities say Zhang also allowed his wife’s laptop to be examined and that an examination showed about 60 percent of the data was "highly problematic," according to the complaint. FBI agents interviewed Zhang on June 27, and authorities say Zhang admitted to taking files from Apple.
     
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    so sounds like they have a decent enough MDM setup going monitoring activity.
     
  3. Exercate

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    And - do you think he made copies of this stuff???
     
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    Flexion [H]ard|Gawd

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    Sure he did... via iCloud probably. XD
     
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  5. BloodyIron

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    Countdown till Trump starts talking about this...
     
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    Someday AMD will realize what a big mistake they've made, and it will be too late for them to do anything about it.
     
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    Paternity leave, not maternity. He's not both.
     
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    This is the new norm for the tech industry. Corporate espionage has always been a thing, but the Made in China 2025 initiative has brought it right out in the open. Instead of fingers crossed behind backs while saying "I promise I won't steal your stuff", China is saying "I will steal your stuff if you let me". The result is the same, but the game is definitely not played the same way.
     
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    The problem with China is your damned if you do and damned if you don't, work with them and they will gradually steal your stuff and phase you out, refuse to work with them and they will outright steel your stuff and just leave you in the cold. Your only option when working with them is to innovate faster than they can copy/steal it.
     
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    Or start punishing them where it hurts, trade. Their economy relies on exports. If no one accepts their exports due to the stealing, it may deter them (probably not).
     
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    You could try but most of their partners are more dependent on them than the other way around, the current culture of North America is dependent on China the only thing we import more of than electronics from them is food.
     
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    Xiaolang Zhang spying for a Chinese company?

    How could this happen? Who could have guessed?
     
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    They have the will to succeed. Meanwhile, the Western clown show continues merrily toward the waterfall without a rudder.
     
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    They are incapable of inventing anything on their own.
     
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    SpeedyVV [H]ardness Supreme

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    So are the Chinese the only ones stealing trade secrets?
     
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    No, but right now they seem to be the most prolific IP thieves on the planet.
     
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    Agreed - but why worry about that if you are good at stealing stuff and smorking it?

    At least to my knowledge, reverse-engineering is easier than the alternative.
     
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    ZHANG YAAAAAAANGGGG!!!!
     
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    This is a culture problem. It's an ends justify the means issue to them. It's an overall traditional and nurtured lack of morality. Easterners in general should NOT be trusted in any domestic business dealing. Their words mean nothing.
     
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    I don't know about incapable, China made a lot of major inventions. They just blew their load early as they were all hundreds or thousands of years ago.
     
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    Funny you should say that. That is what they say about westerners.

    And if you look at it historically, they are right.