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I forgot about that. Is it worth the drive space?Also free Outriders game from Gigabyte for buying this monitor. Offer is here: https://www.aorus.com/redeem/outriders/
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I forgot about that. Is it worth the drive space?Also free Outriders game from Gigabyte for buying this monitor. Offer is here: https://www.aorus.com/redeem/outriders/
Its the last option Im worried about.I think I saw a post saying they got full RGB on their PC and YCbCr444 on their console. Doesn't really matter since 4K 144 Hz 10-bit can fit comfortably into 40 Gbps bandwidth uncompressed.
After the last update people seem to be happy with it. I enjoyed the campaign a lot, but haven't stepped into any post game content yet since I was waiting for damage mitigation and loot issues to be addressed. I've frankly moved on to other games at this point, but I thought it was a lot of fun.I forgot about that. Is it worth the drive space?
Full RGB is possible on PC with DSC. Series X supports DSC so it is also capable of 4:4:4 output. Otherwise yes they are gimped HDMI 2.0 ports + DSC I think.Its the last option Im worried about.
Sounds like on the FV43U you should be using more windows on screen rather than putting browsers in fullscreen.I went ahead and bought the 32". Here they are side by side in my Mom's basement .
The FI32U compared to the FV43U gives a much more traditional PC desktop experience. When I first used the FV43U, it actually felt very large on the desk. The colors and HDR seem better on the FV43U, but I like the traditional size of the FI32U much more. One area where I think the FV43U excels is in realistic tactical shooters such as Squad and Hell Let Loose. Those games often have large maps with very long line of sight. I noticed that the FV43U made it much easier to pick out far away enemies even with iron sights. I find web browsing much easier on the FI32U as it's easier to use the web browser without having to move your eyes upwards. The FV43U felt very much like a large television in that regard, you could move your eyes to other areas of the screen. Whereas with the FI32U it's a much more condensed view that allows you to more easily take in everything at once.
In a perfect world I'd like to have the FV43U for my tactical .mil sim games and then instantly switch to the FI32U for web browsing. I think for my main rig I'll stick with the FI32U as I do a mixture of gaming and web browsing. View attachment 375713
If you have the space to do so setting up a second screen and switching between them would be a simple way to check if it's game or screen related.Something weird just happened in-game (Tarkov) which I cannot tell is monitor related or game related... but depending upon the changing of the lighting, the entire right side of the screen would go 'bluish'. It was quite scene-dependent, as if under certain in-game lighting features... from the center line of the screen off to the right, as if it had an independent lighting zone would change, distinctly, from what was shown on the left.
Anyone else seen something weird like this?
Move the mouse / scene a bit... everything looks normal... move it again and the right side of the screen would get this blue haze over everything. Tried disabling Adaptive Sync and Aim Assist - but no effect. Using the "FPS" preset
Or he can just take a screenshot. If it appears in the screenshot then it's the game. If it doesn't, then it's the display.If you have the space to do so setting up a second screen and switching between them would be a simple way to check if it's game or screen related.
I had a similar issue to this. In my case after running a game or two then when trying the next one, my machine would BSOD with a DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION. It was very weird, my PC would not completely hang immediately, but my network connection would drop, and everything would kind of hang till the BSOD came up. A real pain in the ass when after a BSOD my 3.2TB SSD PCIE card would have to run a check on reboot that took 20min. At first I thought it was the nvidia drivers, as from google searches that seems to be the most common cause. So I booted to safe mode and used DDU to remove then install the latest at the time 471.11 but I still had issues, but there was a hotfix 471.22 and that I thought helped a little but I didn't stay on those drivers long. I then thought it had to be something new with the monitor so I uninstalled the monitor utilities (RGB and OSD sidekick). I think that was the cause for me, but I can't be 100% sure. After I uninstalled those, I upgraded to 471.41 nvidia drivers and also stopped constantly loading my old installed games one after another to check how they looked in 4k. So far I haven't had a BSOD in almost a week.Hi! Earlier I posted a concern that the FI32U was causing my threadripper machine to blue screen. So far I am convinced it's some bad interaction between the monitor and video card. I can use my LG 38" widescreen without issue, waking from sleep works fine, no random locks or blue screens, even at 144hz. If I hook up the FI32U (with machine off), within minutes of reboot I start getting random behavior (ie, can't bring up task manager), eventually I get a BSOD with bug check code of 0x00000133. I have reinstalled windows and even switched to a new .m2 drive. This is the oddest hardware issue I have encountered in 30+ years. I love the monitor, makes my 38" look pixelated. At this point I am torn as to if I should switch out the video card (3090, which is spendy, hard to find, and good chance it won't fix the issue), or just return the monitor. Sad face all around as this is truly an amazing monitor.
I wasn't aware of this. Good info.Or he can just take a screenshot. If it appears in the screenshot then it's the game. If it doesn't, then it's the display.
Yep.I wasn't aware of this. Good info.
I have not yet been able to recreate the problem - but if I understand you correctly, a screen grab that shows the problem is ostensibly a software issue, but if I can see it and the screen shot does not show it... It's the hardware?
I noticed the 120hz issue as well. It helped, for a while. A few days later I started to getting random hangs and BSODs, to the point it corrupted my win10 installation. The final straw was in I locked in the bios. Since I have gone back to my previous monitor, zero issues for close to a week now.Update on the BSOD issue I was having. It seems to be gone now. I tried doing the exact same steps as the last BSOD and then some more mixing between games with and without HDR at 4k and so far no BSODs. The only change I did was set the nvidia control panel screen refresh rate to 120hz. I will try later again at 144hz to see if I get a crash again to confirm if that is what is causing the issue for me.
EDIT: Seems for me it has something to do with being at 144hz and HDR. I set my refresh to 144 and did a couple of benchmark runs in AC Odyssey (144hz + HDR), quit to desktop and reloaded, ran a benchmark, and all was fine. I quit out of AC Odyssey, ran the non HDR sleeping dogs benchmark and still all was good, then I quit Sleeping dogs, loaded up AC Odyssey (144hz + HDR) to run the benchmark again and it hung on loading AC Odyssey then BSODed with a DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION. I did this procedure earlier today at 120hz and windows didn't BSOD.
Ulrick32 I suggest trying to set your refresh rate in Nvidia control panel to 120hz reboot and see if it helps.
One last thing that I might consider an issue. I have been fine so far at 120hz, but I had a BSOD yesterday and it happened when I switched from using headphones connected to the monitor back to my usual motherboard audio out. I think there might be some kind of issue with the USB audio output of my motherboard and the monitor having one isn't helping. My MSI Creator TRX40 has a Realtek USB Audio, and the Monitor has a ESS Sabre HiFi USB Audio device. And I think they might be conflicting. I have had issues with losing audio when I plug in headphones to the headphone jack of my PC then remove them. Sometimes I lose sound or sounds get stuck as if the Realtek USB Audio part hung up so if I wanted headphones I usually connect via my BT headphone amp. Since the Monitor had a USB Headphone device, I am using it for convenience, but I think it might be related. So when you had issues with the monitor, did you have the USB port connected to the PC? I think that's what I have to try next. No USB connection to the monitor then try doing my tests again to see if I can BSOD the system at 144hzI noticed the 120hz issue as well. It helped, for a while. A few days later I started to getting random hangs and BSODs, to the point it corrupted my win10 installation. The final straw was in I locked in the bios. Since I have gone back to my previous monitor, zero issues for close to a week now.
You might want to try paring the things connected to your PC and to the same power sockets to a minimum. I recently bought a cheap laptop power supply when my ASUS PG278Q died and it caused very weird issues like my keyboard working intermittently. The power supply is apparently faulty or so badly shielded that it has an effect even on other gear.One last thing that I might consider an issue. I have been fine so far at 120hz, but I had a BSOD yesterday and it happened when I switched from using headphones connected to the monitor back to my usual motherboard audio out. I think there might be some kind of issue with the USB audio output of my motherboard and the monitor having one isn't helping. My MSI Creator TRX40 has a Realtek USB Audio, and the Monitor has a ESS Sabre HiFi USB Audio device. And I think they might be conflicting. I have had issues with losing audio when I plug in headphones to the headphone jack of my PC then remove them. Sometimes I lose sound or sounds get stuck as if the Realtek USB Audio part hung up so if I wanted headphones I usually connect via my BT headphone amp. Since the Monitor had a USB Headphone device, I am using it for convenience, but I think it might be related. So when you had issues with the monitor, did you have the USB port connected to the PC? I think that's what I have to try next. No USB connection to the monitor then try doing my tests again to see if I can BSOD the system at 144hz
I have. It's very difficult to recreate. I'm a novice at monitor tech - this being the first with HDR & etc. (even though I don't have HDR enabled)I dunno why you're so fixated on a single game exhibiting this. Try a bunch and see if it's reproducible.
I have the same motherboard and also disabled my onboard audio. Did not think to disconnect the USB cable. If you see continued success with removing the cable I may have to give this monitor another try. I am also replacing my motherboard today with the Asus Zenith II Extreme Alpha (what is up with these names?), so that may also resolve the issue. You have given me hope that the new motherboard may resolve the issueJust a quick update. I have switched back to 144hz again and I spent an hour or so just going back and forth between HDR and non HDR games like I was doing before and so far I haven't had any BSODs. The only change I did was pull the USB cable connecting the monitor to my PC. I can't say this is the fix, but usually after doing the ACOdyssey Benchmark twice followed by the Sleeping Dogs benchmark once and trying the ACOdyssey Benchmark after that, caused my system to BSOD at 144hz. I did this combo 2x now and loaded and changed several game graphic options etc... without any BSOD happening. So I am cautiously optimistic that the cause is some kind of weird conflict between my MSI Creator TRX40 motherboard audio subsystem and the monitor audio subsystem under certain circumstances. According to windows both of these devices present itself to the system as USB Audio devices. In my case the Motherboard audio is RealTek USB Audio and the Monitor shows up as ESS Sabre HiFi USB Audio in device manager. I'll test this config for a while and post if I get any BSODs but so far so good.
FYI it looks to be using the same realtek chipset for audio. The drivers look to be the same ones as the MSI ones also. Still if you disabled the onboard audio then I was hoping that would fix it also but if you were crashing with that then my hope is lowered a little that it is the cause.I have the same motherboard and also disabled my onboard audio. Did not think to disconnect the USB cable. If you see continued success with removing the cable I may have to give this monitor another try. I am also replacing my motherboard today with the Asus Zenith II Extreme Alpha (what is up with these names?), so that may also resolve the issue. You have given me hope that the new motherboard may resolve the issue
I think you're on the right track there with it being game specific.I have. It's very difficult to recreate. I'm a novice at monitor tech - this being the first with HDR & etc. (even though I don't have HDR enabled)
So I'm having a hard time determining whether its monitor or game related. It does not show up in screen shots - which makes me think hardware... but it only happens in this one game (so far) on a specific map - which makes me suspect software.
There is a very 'lighting dependent' nature here: I may have to find out if any of the games I have use the Unity engine & thus might have the same 'lighting inputs/instructions' being given (presuming its a software thing)... but it acts as if the software is telling the hardware to do something its not supposed to do.
Based on our experiences so far we have two things in common. The Monitor and the Motherboard. I am listing out my specs to see if there are any other hardware we have in common. It could be a general compatibility issue with this motherboard.FYI it looks to be using the same realtek chipset for audio. The drivers look to be the same ones as the MSI ones also. Still if you disabled the onboard audio then I was hoping that would fix it also but if you were crashing with that then my hope is lowered a little that it is the cause.
Now I just had a BSOD. A completely different one and not from a game. I was trying to get the netflix windows app to run in 4k but when I ran a show, I got a BSOD. I just got back and tried it again but this time I followed the guidelines and turned the refresh rate to 60hz in Nvidia control panel, and netflix played fine at 4k HDR. There might be some issues with netflix, 4k HDR and 144hz refresh rates or because I did all those game related tests this morning and didn't reboot yet that the the BSOD showed up. I can't really tell anymore, I am going to have to play around some more to try and narrow it down.
UPDATE: Just tried it again at 144hz and the netflix app again and it seemed to work at 4k HDR no BSOD. So I really am not sure what the cause was. Still after testing it again (same games), I didn't BSOD, but I did have a couple of CTD with Sleeping Dogs and when it did run it had some rendering errors. So I rebooted and things seem fine again. It definitely feels more stable with the USB cable unplugged, but not completely stable like I felt with my non HDR Dell 3014 2560x1600 monitor.
Well if you swap out your motherboard and it fixes your issue then we can be pretty certain that it's the MSI TRX40 Creator. Looks like we have 3 things in common the CPU, the motherboard and the Video card. So it should be one of the three. For some reason I can't see it being the CPU, and even though the monitor is connected to the GPU I have been relatively stable since I removed the USB cable from monitor to PC. That is why I am leaning motherboard and it's USB ports/devices.Based on our experiences so far we have two things in common. The Monitor and the Motherboard. I am listing out my specs to see if there are any other hardware we have in common. It could be a general compatibility issue with this motherboard.
Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB M.2 NVME SSD
AMD RYZEN THREADRIPPER 3970X 32C/64T
MSI TRX40 CREATOR
Zotac (Bleh) 3090
NZXT Z73 heat sink
128GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo
Windows 10 Professional
1200 watt power supply
9 Corsair QL series RGB fans
I was hoping we had different video cards. If it turns out the MB does not fix the issue, then my next step is to hand my video card to my other half and buy a new one. I may go 3080ti instead, though the price differential between ti and 3090 isn't a lot. For everyone else reading this saga, the monitor is awesome enough that I am willing to replace half my setup to make it workWell if you swap out your motherboard and it fixes your issue then we can be pretty certain that it's the MSI TRX40 Creator. Looks like we have 3 things in common the CPU, the motherboard and the Video card. So it should be one of the three. For some reason I can't see it being the CPU, and even though the monitor is connected to the GPU I have been relatively stable since I removed the USB cable from monitor to PC. That is why I am leaning motherboard and it's USB ports/devices.
I saw that but it's the same firmware as what comes with the monitor I think (F02). I think the newer date listed on the site is just the time they posted it or zipped it up. The file inside the zip is named: Gigabyte_FI32U_F02_20210416_1556_R6747_PARTIAL_8C53.bin so the date of it is April 16, 2021.There is a new firmware for this monitor posted on the gigabyte website. Version FO2. I wondered if anybody has tried it, and what it fixes?
Dear Customer,
If your monitor is running the F02 firmware, it's the same version.
I've updated. You have to do it through the OSD Sidekick software. I have no idea what it did. There are no change notes of which I am aware.There is a new firmware for this monitor posted on the gigabyte website. Version FO2. I wondered if anybody has tried it, and what it fixes?
That would be divine!So I might be late to the party on this news, but apparently there's also an M32U which seems to have the exact same specs as the FI32U? https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M32U/sp#sp
That monitor will probably come in much cheaper than the FI32U just like how the M32Q comes in much lower than the FI32Q yet offers identical performance to the point where HardwareUnboxed called the FI32Q "pointless". Really interesting to see what price point the M32U hits.
PCM explains that there are some color gamut and QOL differences between the two, but without reviewing said the M32Q was an attractive offering.So I might be late to the party on this news, but apparently there's also an M32U which seems to have the exact same specs as the FI32U? https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M32U/sp#sp
That monitor will probably come in much cheaper than the FI32U just like how the M32Q comes in much lower than the FI32Q yet offers identical performance to the point where HardwareUnboxed called the FI32Q "pointless". Really interesting to see what price point the M32U hits.