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AMD ThreadRipper HEDT CPU Officially Announced

Waiting for Zen+/Zen2 before I bite. I want 4.7+ghz on all cores before I'll consider it an upgrade worth dropping a house payment on.
 
DrLobotomy said:
Is Windows gonna play nice with 16 cores as far as licensing goes? Or are they going to start charging extra since this is encroaching on server monies?
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AFAIK the current licensing should
be perfectly fine as long as it's not a server OS installation (I think - I'm open to correction from someone who's done Microsoft's two-day course on licensing. And no, I'm not kidding, it's a full two-day course.)

We've had issues on our licencing of SQL Server at work. Our machine is for data warehousing and it has 2x 6C12T Xeons inside. When we wanted to upgrade from SQL Server 2008 R2 to 2012/2014 under our Software Assurance licensing deal, the account manager that we were dealing with at Microsoft said that it was quite an unusual situation for one of their clients to be running one box with so many threads. This is because we licensed SQL Server 2008 R2 on a Client Access Licence model (CAL - buy rights for 10 users, who cares about how many threads) and we changes to a per-core (actually, it's more accurately "per-thread") model when we upgraded.

So OS = no problem, SQL Server = double check the costs and your licencing model first. : -)
 
Own a threadripper
To watch a threadstripper
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Very curious to see how this performs against Intel's i9's CPU's. Glad I didn't upgrade yet to a second gen X99 or Ryzen just yet. Want to know the prices, but I wouldn't be surprised if the top dog cost more than $1000, and I doubt Intel's i9 CPU's would be cheaper anyway.
 
As someone who might be in the target consumer pool for this cpu, I'll need to see ECC RAM compatibility tests before handing any money over.

I also feel that Intel's math kernel is less easy to give up on than Intel's CPUs...So AMD's support of MKL (or it's own alternative's capability) will be critical.
 
yyv_146 said:
As someone who might be in the target consumer pool for this cpu, I'll need to see ECC RAM compatibility tests before handing any money over.

I also feel that Intel's math kernel is less easy to give up on than Intel's CPUs...So AMD's support of MKL (or it's own alternative's capability) will be critical.
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Interesting. What do you require ECC RAM and extremely high performing math libraries for? Are you in academia or a business user doing HPC?
 
I'm very anxious to see performance and pricing, since this will be a determining factor of where my next system overhaul will lean with tax returns next year.


westrock2000 said:
2.5 billion pounds of shit is generated every day.
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Dude. Ease up on the Ex-Lax. Wow. Very impressive, though.
 
KarsusTG said:
yes and no. I have a 970 right now and when I use it for rendering I often get artifacting and crashing. I have become absolutely paranoid of losing my work from it.
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HoffY said:
M4000? Shouldn't that be a P4000? ;)
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Exactly. What are you rendering with? Unless you already have the card, I don't see why you would buy a M4000 now when you could get a P4000 cheaper. And the P4000 has roughly double the FP performance.
 
True said:
This is incorrect. (not "This are incorrect.")

Data is the plural of datum. Use "is" with singular subjects, and "are" with plural ones. But things can be tricky; in the case of this very sentence, I use "is" with the subject "data," as I am referring to this word as a singular term (the one plural form of "datum") rather than data itself.

Mr34727 is correct. The sentence should read, "2.5 quintillion bytes of data are generated every day," as data is plural.
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Right but for the wrong reason, which could lead to incorrect subject-verb agreement in the future.

The subject is not data, it's "bytes". The words "of data" are a prepositional phrase used as an adjective to modify bytes. E.g. you could substitute data with a singular word and the sentence wouldn't change, e.g. "2.5 quintillion bytes of pornography are generated every day".
 
GDI Lord said:
Interesting. What do you require ECC RAM and extremely high performing math libraries for? Are you in academia or a business user doing HPC?
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Academia, computational simulations and such.

I won't characterize MKL as "extremely" high performance but it's a big step up over many solutions, the most attractive feature being effective, low-level parallel processing for basic math functions. Building CRAN R with MKL for example, gets you near linear gains for up to ~20 threads on some functions.
 
yyv_146 said:
Academia, computational simulations and such.

I won't characterize MKL as "extremely" high performance but it's a big step up over many solutions, the most attractive feature being effective, low-level parallel processing for basic math functions. Building CRAN R with MKL for example, gets you near linear gains for up to ~20 threads on some functions.
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I would like to see proof that standard DDR4 made in 2017 is more susceptible to any errors in memory or failure compared to ECC in your application. I'm not saying it isn't, I just can't find the data. Everything I find is from very early on, but also showing lower errors year after year up to DDR3. Showing that there was only a .02% difference in failure rates (Not necessarily errors)
 
This excites me. I may build one for the wife and take her 1800X system for myself.
 
Rizen said:
I'm actually really interested in this depending on how IPC performance ends up vs Intel and how Intel responds. 64 PCI-E lanes means I can run 2x graphics cards at full speed plus a multitude of PCI-E SSDs. Hnnng.
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IMO, it is going to be very messy for something like that.

Because IMO, these are essentially just Two (Four for Epyc) Ryzen Chips in an MCM package.
 
fwiler1 said:
I would like to see proof that standard DDR4 made in 2017 is more susceptible to any errors in memory or failure compared to ECC in your application. I'm not saying it isn't, I just can't find the data. Everything I find is from very early on, but also showing lower errors year after year up to DDR3. Showing that there was only a .02% difference in failure rates (Not necessarily errors)
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My thinking was more along the lines of "can I use the DDR4 I already have which is ECC" and not that ECC is really qualitatively better...That said, people will be less likely to buy into an AMD workstation chip if they have to get a fresh set of RAM sticks, especially if they won't work with a future 2u build or something like that.

On an anecdotal note, I haven't run into substantial memory errors using either ECC or non-ECC RAM, so I don't know if ECC is actually helping (and I'm just lucky with my regular PC), or if the rates are just so low that it's not a concern unless you do extremely heavy work beyond the scenarios I run.
 
Cost is going to be a bitch, but I'd love for them to undercut Intel's latest i9. I think it'd be a kick ass CPU, even with the lower clock speed. May not perform as good as Intel with single core performance, but it still kicks some ass.
 
Ur_Mom said:
Cost is going to be a bitch, but I'd love for them to undercut Intel's latest i9. I think it'd be a kick ass CPU, even with the lower clock speed. May not perform as good as Intel with single core performance, but it still kicks some ass.
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AMD will under cut them core for core I bet. I can see their 16 core being priced cheaper then Intel's 12 but I'm still predicting $1200 price tag on their 16 core.
 
Cost is going to be a bitch, but I'd love for them to undercut Intel's latest i9
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I expect the highest end 16C / 32T to cost around whatever Intel prices their 10C / 20T so definitely > $1000 US.
 
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Leaks show 16, 14 and 12 cores. Think about Intel 10, 8 and 6 cores pricing: 1500, 1100 and 650-800 dollars. The 1800X is at 550.
 
I would expect motherboard manufacturers to have much better ECC support with this platform.
 
Tawnos said:
Right but for the wrong reason, which could lead to incorrect subject-verb agreement in the future.

The subject is not data, it's "bytes". The words "of data" are a prepositional phrase used as an adjective to modify bytes. E.g. you could substitute data with a singular word and the sentence wouldn't change, e.g. "2.5 quintillion bytes of pornography are generated every day".
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Ha, I did my whole correction without even reading the sentence, based only upon often misunderstood use of the word "data," and then wrote the sentence out myself myself. I should have noticed this. Good catch, you are correct :)
 
cyclone3d said:
Well, since Minecrap is single threaded.....
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Instances! It's all about how many instances you can run! :D

Hmm... Minecraft VDI Server... I have four kids, they all like an occasional MC play... I should really think about this...
 
J3RK said:
Instances! It's all about how many instances you can run! :D

Hmm... Minecraft VDI Server... I have four kids, they all like an occasional MC play... I should really think about this...
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Well, with this chip you'll have enough overhead for eleven more kids :D
 
yyv_146 said:
Well, with this chip you'll have enough overhead for eleven more kids :D
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Well to be conservative, I'll estimate that each one can run two instances at a time. (I actually don't doubt that... :D My kids are a bit on the insane side, hehehe) There's still plenty of overhead there though for guests.
 
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