amd claims a lot of things. i want proof
your lack of faith is disturbing...
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amd claims a lot of things. i want proof
amd claims a lot of things. i want proof
Lets face it, even when AMD is telling the truth they still don't deliver. The driver issues with things like CrossfireX and driver reliability are often laughable at best. Maddeningly frustrating at worst. Anytime I've put more than one AMD card in my machine since the 4870X2 it makes me want to hang myself with a DVI cable after choking down one of the ridiculous dual-link DVI to mini-DP adapters.
Anytime I've put more than one AMD card in my machine since the 4870X2 it makes me want to hang myself with a DVI cable after choking down one of the ridiculous dual-link DVI to mini-DP adapters.
It will be surprising, but that said, titan is a chopped gk110 with overclocking headroom. If they get matched this time they can launch the better chip, if they want. Quadro k6000 is shipping in 2 weeks according to newegg.
No, what i'm saying is when a review website, for instance, uses a highly overclocked card such as a 780 HOF as a basis of comparison. The 780 HOF is clocked 200mhz higher than reference, on average, and would muddy the comparison by a large amount. Unless they in turn overclocked the 9970 by a similar amount, but comparing a factory OC'ed 780 versus a stock 9970 would be just silly.
But I don't think this will be an issue. 99 out of 100 websites use stock reference for everything in launch reviews - this was true for the 680 and 7970.
Puts beacon on a graphic card.
I don't know if disappointing is the right word to use...
I'm thinking that a 5~10% better performance than the Titan, for 40% less money is still a WIN(!!!) for AMD... Especially with all the bundled games (BF4 part of the Never Settle bundle rumored).... It's all about perspective...
The BF4 bundle immediately knock up to $45 off the card for me, a game that I will buy anyway.
If faster, AMD will have my money for the first time in a while.
I wonder if Kyle has a card yet?
*puts popcorn in microwave*
There is no way Kyle would throw out that statement unless he was very confident that the statement was true.
Lets face it, even when AMD is telling the truth they still don't deliver. The driver issues with things like CrossfireX and driver reliability are often laughable at best. Maddeningly frustrating at worst. Anytime I've put more than one AMD card in my machine since the 4870X2 it makes me want to hang myself with a DVI cable after choking down one of the ridiculous dual-link DVI to mini-DP adapters.
I hope the rumored performances are fake. Only slightly faster than Titan on their best next-gen model is highly disappointing.
You can't do much better on the same node a new design needs the node it was designed for or it will be a total gtx280.I don't know if disappointing is the right word to use...
I'm thinking that a 5~10% better performance than the Titan, for 40% less money is still a WIN(!!!) for AMD... Especially with all the bundled games (BF4 part of the Never Settle bundle rumored).... It's all about perspective...
Current AMD drivers are better than Nvidia's latest couple of drivers it went downhill big time after 314.Lets face it, even when AMD is telling the truth they still don't deliver. The driver issues with things like CrossfireX and driver reliability are often laughable at best. Maddeningly frustrating at worst. Anytime I've put more than one AMD card in my machine since the 4870X2 it makes me want to hang myself with a DVI cable after choking down one of the ridiculous dual-link DVI to mini-DP adapters.
Lets face it, even when AMD is telling the truth they still don't deliver. The driver issues with things like CrossfireX and driver reliability are often laughable at best. Maddeningly frustrating at worst. Anytime I've put more than one AMD card in my machine since the 4870X2 it makes me want to hang myself with a DVI cable after choking down one of the ridiculous dual-link DVI to mini-DP adapters.
The funny part is that you're complaining about AMD drivers, but you have a Nvidia card.
I switched Nvidia for AMD 1 year ago, and I can tell: CCC is A LOT better than Forceware. The cards get an amazingperformance increase, the profiles (CAP) works nice, and you have much more tweaks compared to Nvidia Panel. Every 2 months you get a WHQL, and in the meantime release a lot of beta versions with minor improvements.
Actually, AMD is one step ahead Nvidia in the drivers race.
The funny part is that you're complaining about AMD drivers, but you have a Nvidia card.
I switched Nvidia for AMD 1 year ago, and I can tell: CCC is A LOT better than Forceware. The cards get an amazingperformance increase, the profiles (CAP) works nice, and you have much more tweaks compared to Nvidia Panel. Every 2 months you get a WHQL, and in the meantime release a lot of beta versions with minor improvements.
Actually, AMD is one step ahead Nvidia in the drivers race.
Remember all they hype before Bulldozer? Pepperidge Farm remembers...
If they don't beat a fully unlocked and clocked Titan by at least 20%, it will be a major let down.
Until then lets all enjoy some popcorn.
I bet nvidia is mailing "factory overclocked" GTX 780s to all reviewers right now to muddy the waters...
I'd hope that HardOCP tests reference only as a fair basis of comparison - reference stock clocks versus reference stock clocks.
Still the AMD drivers are currently better than what Nvidia puts out.I hope R2D2-9000Extreme does beat the Titan. If is can beat my 1300mhz 780, I'll sell it and grab one right away. Sticking single GPU for the time being and faster is always better.
The funny part is you signing up today to post this, not realizing you're talking to a reviewer.
If it matches a titan for half the cost.....its a sell for me
Time permitting, I plan to squeeze in both, time permitting. Stock vs. stock, and overclocked vs. overclocked, I understand the value of overclocking both, but understand there is also value in getting a baseline at stock card clocks. As always, price comparison is the number 1 factor, if a card is factory oc'd, but matches the same price as another card, non factory oc'd, it is right and fair to compare. Price is the benchmark, not the clock difference. Time is always my enemy in launch evaluations.
Still the AMD drivers are currently better than what Nvidia puts out.
as I just said up to 314 was great then 320 WHQL's crashed nearly everything then might have killed my 570 (I calculated the chance of the card dieing that week was less than 1.5% on average and more fermi cards died that time frame)
After that there were problems with various 1440P monitors.
My 7850 was working fine though and many seem to share that AMD is definitly going to/has surpassed Nvidia in drivers.
Nvidia can revert this process if they go to releasing drivers after enough testing (AMD first released drivers in fast pace and they were bad now they take their time and they're improving significantly)
can we expect a review on Sept. 25th?
I have no new AMD hardware in my hands.
The funny part is you signing up today to post this, not realizing you're talking to a reviewer.
Yes, I registered only to post this. The forums around the web are infested of comments like "shitty AMD drivers", "Yeah, AMD drivers are crap" and this kind of thing. 1 year ago, i got my first Radeon and confirmed that the biggest part of people who say this kind of thing was biased to the limit and barely touched an AMD card in the last few months.
Yeah, I didn't know he was a reviewer, but this makes me even more skeptical to his opnion. A person who tests any card that is out there still says AMD drivers are a problem? Is that right?
The only thing I see in the last months is Nvidia drivers going down all over the hill, while CCC are getting better in each release.
I have no new AMD hardware in my hands.
I hope its not a paper launch. I want to see how high these things over clock ..
Yep, paper launch as expected.