AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 Leaked Benchmarks: GTX 1070 Killer

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  1. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    These benchmark numbers were just sent to me via Google Hangouts by cageymaru. He pointed me to Tweaktown as they are saying that "an industy source" of theirs passed along AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 benchmarks. As always, take these with a grain of salt.

    My source said that the RX Vega 56 card was running on an Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.2GHz, had 16GB of DDR4-3000MHz RAM, and was running Windows 10. The benchmarks were run at 2560x1440 with the AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 easily beating NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 1070 in Battlefield 1, DOOM, Civilization 6, and even Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare. My source said that Battlefield 1 was run on Ultra settings, Civ 6 was on Ultra with 4x MSAA, DOOM was at Ultra with 8x TSAA enabled, and COD:IW was running on its High preset.

    Radeon RX Vega 56 benchmark results:

    Battlefield 1: 95.4FPS (GTX 1070: 72.2FPS)
    Civilization 6: 85.1FPS (GTX 1070: 72.2FPS)
    DOOM: 101.2FPS (GTX 1070: 84.6FPS)
    COD:IW: 99.9FPS (GTX 1070: 92.1FPS)
     
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  2. DejaWiz

    DejaWiz Oracle of Unfortunate Truths

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    Hopefully that is accurate.
     
  3. ole-m

    ole-m Limp Gawd

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    I'm dying to get something to be better capable of 4K.
    I'm dying to get some AMD graphics in Linux again.

    hoping RX Vega doesn't suck, and now you post the first posetive vega performance estimate since friggin last december!

    if the 64 doesn't surpass GTX1080 I'm going fuck linux desktop experience and buy a 1080ti and continue to bodge it till it does something semi usefull with crappy nvidia drivers and live happy with the gaming performance :D

    but if this is true, 2017 may be the most exciting hardware year since 2005\6?
     
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  4. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    I trust Tweaktown about as far as I could throw him.
     
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    A power hog card - likely maxed from the factory with no OC headroom - might be able to keep up with Nvidia's 4th best card at stock..

    Jen-Hsun must be pacing in his office.
     
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    He won't be pacing in his office, he will be planning his latest AMD killer card !!!
     
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    vegeta535 2[H]4U

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    They will just release the planned Volta at the end of the year which will be at least 50% faster then a 1080TI for $700. We will then wait 2 years for Navi to show up and disappoint again.
     
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    Nvidia doesn’t care what AMD does anymore, it’s been mentioned multiple times that they release on their own schedule. AMD isn’t competitive except in the eyes of their fanboys.
     
  9. pek

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    How long until we can see some honest ((well, reliable?, (how about not made up?)) head to head with the nvidia cards?
     
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    When retail cards are out in customer hands, such as Kyle's.
     
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    Dullard 2[H]4U

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    Musta had Freesync off.
     
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    Azphira [H]ard|Gawd

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    I want a Titan Xp killer damn it.
     
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  13. WhoBeDaPlaya

    WhoBeDaPlaya 2[H]4U

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    No problem. 1070Ti, and people will line up around the block to pay $$$ for the privilege of sucking off Jen-Hsun.
    Not that I'm one to talk, since I ditched my R9 290s and 390s for 1080s :p
     
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    bigdogchris [H]ard as it Gets

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    If this is accurate it makes the current GTX1070 price look sorta silly.
     
  15. Dayman

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    Those numbers look wrong... I quickly checked 1070 results in Doom 1440p Ultra and it's sure as hell ain't 85fps. Possibly minimums being reported ?
     

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    Different CPU, also OC'ed higher than the 7700k they had for numbers in the other cards, along with HOW did they bench isn't mentioned.
     
  17. Elios

    Elios [H]ardness Supreme

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    of course in EVERY OTHER GAME the 1070 is faster..
     
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    I don’t “pity buy”. I buy what I believe is the best in terms of performance/price/power consumption. AMD hasn’t delivered, especially not this generation. I’m not out here to buy for some “greater good”.
     
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    Doesn't the 7700k boost to 4.5 single? So the clock difference doesn't matter due to IPC difference at that point. It also could vary widely in different areas but I don't imagine a 20%~difference happening in averages...
     
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    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    You would be foolish to think that product releases are not scheduled industry-wide with consideration given to what the competition is up to.
     
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    I'm more concerned with what will be available and at what prices if mining keeps burning up gpus. I don't see any of these being sold at their respective msrp anywhere near launch.
     
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    7700 @ 4.2
     
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    this the fact GPU prices are higher then they where almost a year ago is fucked they should be cheaper now not more
     
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    Not "Average" or "Minimum" or "Median Low", FPS, just plain old FPS with no methodology.

    I don't even care what the numbers say, that grain of salt is too large...
     
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    Woah 1070 performance for 1070 prices 16 months later. It's inverse fine wine.
     
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    No it boosts to 4.5ghz for a single core, just like he said. (and 4.4 for 4 cores IIRC)
     
  29. -Strelok-

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    I've had equal amounts of AMD cards as Nvidia, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about in terms of fanboy. "Fury X still kicks a 1070s butt in most LOWER LVL API games...STOCK VS STOCK". Ok, first of all, nobody runs a 1070 stock so lets move on from that. Second, who cares about something like Doom? My 1050Ti can run that at ultra 60FPS at 1080P and it has mediocre graphics. 90% of games out there don't use low level API's, and I don't buy my GPU's based on a small sample of games. If you love Doom, Hitman and Benchmark of the Singularity, then by all means go ahead and go with the Fury X or dual 480's. In games that I actually care about, Nvidia is ahead in almost all of them.

    I must not have made it clear that my post was my opinion and based on my needs. AMD isn't competitive there and hasn't been since I bought my HD 7950.
     
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    Encouraging to say the least, looking forward to some more in depth reviews from trusted unbiased sources ...*cough, cough* Kyle.

    We will likely be waiting a while :(, these will be good bang for the buck though. Nothing screams [H] like bang for buck.
     
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    this really only matters to the company. as a consumer all i care about is what options I have now and in the near future. If i was offered 2 cards, one newer and one older with similar performance. I would go with the newer because it likely has newer features. full dx12 support and other stuff like packed math. consumer perspective its all good. AMD missed on sales tho.

    I'd be willing to bet the vast majority do run their cards stock. The gaming community is not limited to tech forums.

    I dunno, they seem to care about ultra 1440p etc in doom. but its an old game to me so who cares about any old game honestly. We'll see with new games coming up. but we dont have those so we use older games to benchmark. For me, those older games aren't that interesting so good enough performance there is good enough. i want to be able to run the latest greatest at its best, and eventually this will be dx12/vulkan.

    anyway i actually thought the list of games was biased so I am not commenting on that specifically.

    the only place you can claim they weren't competitive is the highest end from last year or 2015 but a 7950 and 1050ti don't really qualify for that. weird.
     
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  32. Stoly

    Stoly [H]ardness Supreme

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    I do expect the Vega56 to be faster than the GTX1070 as its only mildly cut down from Vega64. But it seems to me those numbers are pretty much in line with a GTX1080. And thats Vega64 territory.
     
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    I don't pity buy....but (repeating mantra) I desperately want a proper 2K Freesync card.

    I'd be fairly happy if these numbers are semi accurate. Is AMD behind the ball? Sure. But who cares. A year later NVidia's product stack has only changed by a Ti so worst case a decent showing by Vega pushes them to get Volta out. We all win when they trade blows.
     
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    Winning vs 1070 with 56 is probably more important than Vega vs 1080 for profits.
     
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    nvidia have a year lead.

    it's likely the 1170 or whatever is on the horizon.

    this is more of a bottlerocket than a MOAB.

    actually it's been over a year lead.

    good on amd for keeping up but this seems lack luster to me.
     
  36. Burticus

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    Wait, a brand new $500 video card is faster than a year old 1070 I paid under $400 for? Alert the presses.

    Even if the price isn't that high, AMD is way late to this party. Still, I guess competition is good regardless.

    OK - so this part isn't a dig, it's a question. Have the AMD/ATI drivers improved any in the last couple years? I think my last ATI card was about 6 years ago and the drivers .... did not impress (trying to be nice).
     
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    The RX 56 is $400 I believe.
     
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    I am going to go on a limb here but i imagine a lot with etherium mining is going to change in the next few months. Either the price is going to tank, which looks likely, or they are going to release that new fangled way to mine which will make GPU mining moot.
     
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    Yeah well I paid $365 for my 1070, which is technically "under $400". But that was a good deal at Microcenter and can't be replicated today.
     
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    Keeping up would have been Vega launching at least by the beginning of this year. We should hopefully see solid numbers on the 14th but I doubt this will be a big deal in the long run.