AMD Radeon HD 7970 Video Card Review @ [H]

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  1. heatlesssun

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    The PC does support things like super high resolutions with multi-monitor technologies like Eyefinity, yes even some of those console ports work well with it like Skyrim and Batman AC that can easily use this kind of GPU power.
     
  2. Forceman

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    Thanks, we will.
     
  3. robble

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    They will, while you play on your console because it is more powerful than your PC :p
     
  4. Silent Knight

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    I wonder how would the 7970 perform in Bitcoin mining. :D
     
  5. Michaelius

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    AMD says a lot of things - the problem comes later with delivering what was promised :D
     
  6. Quartz-1

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    Why 2 vs 3 and not 3 vs 3? Doesn't the 7970 support Tri-fire?
     
  7. Flopper

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    yea but price/performance is also fun to measure.
     
  8. Trimlock

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    [H] has done these fun match ups before, they don't prove anything but are fun as hell!
     
  9. Astral Abyss

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    As for multi-monitor gaming, Star Wars: The Old Republic supports it out of the box and it works great. I can't wait to upgrade to one or two of these 7970s for my 3 23" monitors for the performance improvement. You guys that claim your consoles can do everything a PC can do because the PC just gets game ports... I'll keep chuckling while I enjoy my MMOs in their multi-monitor glory.

    And yes, SWTOR looks incredible on 3 screens.
     
  10. Zarathustra[H]

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    Well, they could prove something.

    It becomes a battle between how well 3 GPUs in SLI scale, vs. two higher powered GPU's.

    I still think the 580's will come out on top, but I think it would be much closer than many Nvidia fans would like :p
     
  11. Trimlock

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    Yea you are right they CAN. But the [H] likes to prove stuff based on similar pricing, so for Kyle or Brent to say anything based on performance the pricing would have to be pretty close.

    What would you expect them to say based on the more expensive Tri-SLI, especially if it out performs a 7970 CF? "Well they do cost quite a bit more!" and they already did do a review showing the less expensive 7970 beating out the 580 so the 7970's ground is already covered.

    To me it would be as filler, plus Brent did mention they were waiting on a second to do CF testing. This might be a while before they include tri-SLI.
     
  12. dook43

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    Eric Demers of AMD alleged that certain DX11 games were over-engineered with tesselation artificially to make Nvidia products look better in benchmarks despite their being little to no improvement in the gaming experience from one level of tesselation to the next. One thing that Tahiti does is remove that obstacle.
     
  13. Zarathustra[H]

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    My conclusion from this and other reviews out there is as follows.

    One 7970 will give me an average of 83.3% of the performance of my 6970 crossfire setup in the type of games I play.

    One overclocked 7970 will give me an average of 92.5% of the performance of my 6970 crossfire setup (which doesn't seem to overclock much at all)

    So I could sell my two 6970's and pick up one of these and only lose 7.5% performance, and not have to deal with the hassle of crossfire profiles and titles that don't cooperate, and such.

    WIN.

    And if I find that one 7970 is not sufficient down the road, I could always pick up another...

    In fact, as soon as the 7970's reliably are in stock places, I'll probably do just this. Sell both my Asus EAH6970 Direct CU II's either here in the FS/FT forum or on eBay and pick up a 7970.
     
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  14. The Mac

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    The Crysis 2 dx11 update is an example of this. Tesselation levels are waaaayyyy beyond what is nessisary,,
     
  15. Michaelius

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    I wonder if he would be saying the same thing if Nvidia products were failing after certain level of tesselation is reached while AMD product is unaffected :D
     
  16. Zarathustra[H]

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    Definitely not. But that doesn't mean he isn't right.

    Do an experiment. Load up the Heaven benchmark. Start at the lowest tessellation setting, and then move your way up. be honest and stop when you feel you can no longer tell the difference.
     
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    instead of you going from amd thread to amd thread bitching about amd just put "I hate AMD" in your sig line and be done with it.

    I don't even know why you come into the amd sections, since it's clear you have an issue with them.
     
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    Probably very well. Bitcoin mining is directly related to the amount of shaders & their speed. Hence why nvidia cannot compete there. The 7970 has more shaders than the now venerable 5870 and faster to boot while using significantly less power. But the cost may be too high to be worth it at current bitcoin prices.
     
  19. That's_Corporate

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    Again, I disagree.

    A 3GB 580 SLI owner can sell their cards for around $900, meaning the cost of 7970 crossfire is $200 to said user.

    for only $200, that user gets 18 FPS more in BF3 at 2560x1600 according to hardware.fr

    18 FPS more, at that resolution, is ENORMOUS bang-for-the-buck at a measly $200 for someone who has already invested $1,000+ into a 30 inch monitor and $1,200 into 3GB 580 SLI

    as anyone with true [H]ardware will tell you, getting those kinds of FPS gains with already top-end hardware is incredible. "the faster you go, the harder it is to go incrementally faster"
     
  20. l88bastard

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    This, exactly this. I am thankful that the secondary GPU market is as strong as it is, because it affords less pain during my yearly upgrades. After one year a gpu will loose 20%-30% of its value, but after three years the gpu is pretty much worthless. I would rather take the yearly $200-$500 hit and write it off as a "rental fee or lease fee" than to take the full hit 2-5 years down the gpus life line when it either dies or is completely obsolete.

     
  21. heatlesssun

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    First off I was comparing 3 580s to 2 7970s and yes you can always sell the cards to defray costs.
     
  22. AtkinS

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    you guys in america might have 3gb 580's, doesnt exist here.
    Overclocked blablalba, most people would want stock cards.
    Low power consumtion
    Eyefinity out of the box.
    Good overclockability.
    More performance for your $$$ £££ €€€.

    How the hell isnt this a good launch, GTX580 is a damn good beast, but nooo way it gives 7970 any problems, who in their right mind buys GTX580 over 7970....
    If you don't like something about AMD would wait for keppler in a few months and be happy with that.

    Kudos to AMD to be on the top of the graphics.
     
  23. That's_Corporate

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    so for an extra $300, that tri-SLI user could have tri-crossfire 7970's!
    now we're talking!
     
  24. Vegasr

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    Now that would be a damn nice review, tri crossfire 7970s :D
     
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  26. heatlesssun

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    If you could get $450 for a 3GB 580 then sure. I'd like to see who well the 7900s work in CF and Eyefinity combined in some more benchmarks.
     
  27. Quartz-1

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    I wonder how the 7970 fares with 5x 1080p monitors? I'm thinking you'd need at least 2 cards, and I'm wondering if 3 GB will be enough VRAM.
     
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    I've been looking around and noticed "1xS-Link DVI" for the 7970.. does this mean I can't run 120hz 1080p LCD straight off of DVI?
     
  29. notarat

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    I wouldn't call this a doorstop
    [​IMG]
     
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    I wonder if the Sapphire Atomic RX HD 7970 will be as fast as the HD 6990/GTX 590. Because I have a feeling its going to be priced similarly.
     
  32. jebo_4jc

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    awesome review guys thanks
     
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    hmmm I might be selling my SLI 580s :)

    Not sure what to ask for them. They have AC Accelero Plus coolers on them.
     
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    The weird part is that it is entirely unnecessary for AMD to paper launch a product.
     
  36. Trimlock

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    I agree, I dislike paper launches.
     
  37. JMccovery

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    Sapphire HD7970 FLEX 6G will be one expensive card. I wonder how far it will overclock, especially the memory.
     
  38. Vegasr

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    Man I want to jump on the 7970 at launch but really would like one of these factory OC cards with possible better cooling and would hate to regret not waiting a bit. What are the chances of these all being available on the 9th?
     
  39. Forceman

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    I guess they wanted to forestall Christmas GTX 580 purchases? Otherwise why buck the hard launch trend (especially for only 2 weeks or so).