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AMD Is FXing Serious

That's cute. I like AMD for my budget builds and my home VMware box. As a non-gamer it suits my needs.
 
Steve said:
*sigh* Remember back in the day though? AMD was kicking ass and taking names. They definitely kept Intel on their toes.
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Oh yeah I do Steve. I remember those bad ass Athlon processors that smoked the Intel chips. But, also chipped. lol. I went through a few of them because of the chipping!

I don't know if AMD will ever be able to catch up at this point. The only thing we can hope for is that they beat nVidia's latest cards so that it keeps them in the picture. If AMD drops out, we are at the mercy of Intel and nVidia. I like competition as much as you do.
 
Nukester said:
Oh yeah I do Steve. I remember those bad ass Athlon processors that smoked the Intel chips. But, also chipped. lol. I went through a few of them because of the chipping!

I don't know if AMD will ever be able to catch up at this point. The only thing we can hope for is that they beat nVidia's latest cards so that it keeps them in the picture. If AMD drops out, we are at the mercy of Intel and nVidia. I like competition as much as you do.
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I hope they can catch up. I dislike Intel as a company, and I want competition.
 
Actually if I could spare the time, I'd like to build an AMD system just to toy with. But that is where AMDs usefulness ends in the consumer CPU market sadly.
 
Even the AMD Stars cores wasn't bad, it was slower than Intel Core, but not enough for it to matter. In some cases Stars was still better than Bulldozer, it took 2 years before Bulldozer was able to beat it in all cases.
 
This is hilarious... well on so many levels. I'm 32, and I have been overclocking computers since it was a backyard science water cooling with beer cans. I can remember, showing off my Peltier cooled ABIT-Bp6 Dual Celeron 366@550mhz, while my older brother was building his sweet Athlon system, (That I thought was a step back due to it being a slot like the Pentium 2). My system, my friends Pentium 3 Coppermine, and the Athlon always competing in 3dmark and various other tests.Every weekend, it was comparable to our for fathers before us working on their, Mustang, Camaro, and Chargers. Those were the times, the times as a young kid with a job, spending all our money building our "hot rods". Counter Strike, was just some cool mod for Half Life then, like Rocket Arena. Ok enough reminiscing, time to shelve my poor grammar, and spelling
 
I knew that the moment they sold off their fabs and had to rely on third-parties for their processors... they just weren't going to be able to compete with a company that can make their own processors. That effectively takes a lot of the quality control and such out of their hands, and forces them to wait for a node shrink on someone else's timetable rather than their own. That's fine for simple SOCs or chipsets, but it's not okay when you're making something as complex and sensitive as a desktop CPU.

About the only hope they have of catching up with Intel is if it becomes impossible to shrink the nodes any further, TSMC or whoever finally catches up with Intel, and they manage to create an architecture that rivals Intel's in IPC and clockspeed.

Of course, at that point, Intel may be more worried about quantum computing than silicon.
 
Steve said:
...Now, it would just be great if AMD got FXing serious about processor performance again.
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Personally I think AMD is looking LONG LONG term and maybe it will roll around that it's better that way.. but it really is hurting the short game :p
 
Steve said:
*sigh* Remember back in the day though? AMD was kicking ass and taking names. They definitely kept Intel on their toes.
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From about 2000 to early 2006, AMD really gave Intel a run for its money.
But once Intel dumped Netburst and moved to their Core 2 CPUs, it was all over for AMD.
 
M76 said:
Actually if I could spare the time, I'd like to build an AMD system just to toy with. But that is where AMDs usefulness ends in the consumer CPU market sadly.
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I dunno, if you need a machine for VMs or rendering video the 8-core AMD chips are still a really good value. Even with their weaker IPC they're still perfectly adequate for 1080p gaming. I really don't see a difference between my i7 4930k and my FX 8320 rigs unless I'm playing something that's actually CPU-bound like Kerbal Space Program.

I also have a silent socket AM1 machine that I'm quite happy with. It makes a great little 18-35w HTPC.
 
Axehandler said:
Personally I think AMD is looking LONG LONG term and maybe it will roll around that it's better that way.. but it really is hurting the short game :p
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You can't look long term if you are hemorrhaging now. They need to fix the bleed in the next few years but going on their past track record they won't. AMD again will be faced with refinancing debt for increasingly high interest to get cash in the bank. Even consoles won't solve AMD's issues.

It is not a good sign when your stock jumps because of changes with your board.

AMD needs to stop following and actually lead for once. I am tired of AMD being constantly behind Intel and NV. If they want to win they need to come up with products in both CPU and GPU's that can take back market share. Fast and at the right price, not just cheap.
 
All that said; I've always been an AMD fan because of performance for dollar.
It is kind of like Corvette of the exotic car world. Brutish, unsophisticated, but will snap your neck with torque; and it is relatively cheap.
 
Sounds like they want to clear stock in warehouses so they can roll out next gen FX and APU stuff soon. I mean, that's the rumor, that new shit is coming out soon.
 
Benzino said:
That's cute. I like AMD for my budget builds and my home VMware box. As a non-gamer it suits my needs.
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As strictly a gamer it's fitting my needs just fine. So far I haven't run into a game my rig can't run just fine on maxed out settings. Maybe if I moved up to 4K Id start to see it but at 1080 and 144 Hz, its getting the job done pretty well. Trust me Im looking too because I want to upgrade my rig but I can't find a reason to.

Twisted Kidney said:
Nah, I love the slow march of the one company CPU market. :mad:
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I remember when I first started looking to build/upgrade my computer in 2010. I was looking at, I think, the Phenom X2 1100 (6 core) and the first generation i5, as they were close in price. Looked all over at benchmarks, and while the i5 was mostly ahead, the AMD chip was very close and in some applications, even ahead of the i5. Then Sandy Bridge processors were released, and all AMD could come up with was Bulldozer.
 
The marketing slogan is quite catchy. Perhaps my friend saw that as he just purchased an AMD FX 8350 to run his virtual machines and installed it last night. He said it's a great value but the sucker puts out so much heat and the cooler is loud as....

A shame he didn't get one with the new Wraith cooler.
 
The reasons for AMD's financial problems are only in a small part due to the performance gap. Piss Poor Planning in nearly every market segment is a core issue.
 
JohnC0817 said:
The marketing slogan is quite catchy. Perhaps my friend saw that as he just purchased an AMD FX 8350 to run his virtual machines and installed it last night. He said it's a great value but the sucker puts out so much heat and the cooler is loud as....

A shame he didn't get one with the new Wraith cooler.
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After having a FOP38, WBK38, and CAK4-86, I'm good with whatever these days. Of course that may be because of the hearing loss...
 
M76 said:
Actually if I could spare the time, I'd like to build an AMD system just to toy with. But that is where AMDs usefulness ends in the consumer CPU market sadly.
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Actually, I'd say that AMD could be useful in the consumer CPU market. The average consumer is not the [H] type. AMD's current mundane line of CPUs can serve the average consumer just fine, the same as Intel does with their lower end products. Of course AMD hasn't been particularly great in the marketing department, at best they were OK around 10+ years ago when there were still tons of little OEMs everywhere producing low end to mid-tier PC builds and selling them via the mass market. These days though, putting together a CPU and then chipset to go with it for a mobile platform is something AMD doesn't seem capable of doing, and that would hurt any company trying to compete against Intel(nevermind all of the other CPUs used in smaller mobile devices like tablets and phones from other manufacturers).

Assuming AMD is capable of producing something worthy of competing with Intel for the top-end consumer market(that's where the [H] people fall into), it should be easy for them to get at least a little marketshare. But no, they haven't done much of anything for years letting Intel sit on their ass and not even having to try to compete with anyone. The next option after that is what, enterprise? LOL. Not a chance from AMD unless they make a massive turnaround and damned quick.
 
LightningCrash said:
After having a FOP38, WBK38, and CAK4-86, I'm good with whatever these days. Of course that may be because of the hearing loss...
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Lol. I remember another friend's old AMD Sempron machine with a 60mm heatsink and the most powerful fan you could get at the time, a Delta one that sounded like a jet taking off.
 
My Athlon 2500+ Barton was a kick-ass chip.
 
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Recently retired an old socket 939 Opteron that lasted a good long while (still works - but Win10 isn't supported on the old CPU lol) - I'd be happy with some more fxing serious from AMD :)
 
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Back in the day, I vacillated between Intel and AMD. Now I am an Intel-only guy.
 
Wyodiver said:
My Athlon 2500+ Barton was a kick-ass chip.
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Wyodiver said:
Back in the day, I vacillated between Intel and AMD. Now I am an Intel-only guy.
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Same. I don't want a single manufacturer market, I want the AMD back that gave Intel a run for their money and made a dent in marketshare while providing me a reason to consider and actually buy some of their CPUs not only as low budget machine options, but "this is my gaming rig that I'm throwing money into" and possibly "I might even consider this for a test environment at work".
 
JohnC0817 said:
Lol. I remember another friend's old AMD Sempron machine with a 60mm heatsink and the most powerful fan you could get at the time, a Delta one that sounded like a jet taking off.
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delta blacks were the shit! cak4-86 plus a delta was the way to go but loud as fuck, 55db or something.
 
fuzzylogik said:
Recently retired an old socket 939 Opteron that lasted a good long while (still works - but Win10 isn't supported on the old CPU lol) - I'd be happy with some more fxing serious from AMD :)
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So turn it into a Win98 retro gaming box.. provided there are Win98 drivers for the chipset.

All 3 of my retro systems are / are going to be AMD.

DOS/Win98SE for DOS and 3dfx stuff - Athlon XP-M 2800+ Barton
Win98SE - delided Opteron 175
XP - AM3/AM3+ setup initially with an Athlon II X3 that hopefully unlocks to Phenom II X4

All are way overkill and all will be overclocked to boot, but hey, why not.
 
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