Advice on Upgrade

saw some other users' views of the 8800GTS 320MB and they dont seem to positive...what is the problem with it anyway?
 
At your res it may be fine, but the 8800 GTS 320 is the weakest of the older G80 based cards. It's weaker than the 8800 GT and 9600 GT... but considering what you'd be paying for an 8800 GT ($200 card new, here) and potential budget problems, you might want to go with it. It's not a /bad/ card.
 
silent-circuit said:
At your res it may be fine, but the 8800 GTS 320 is the weakest of the older G80 based cards. It's weaker than the 8800 GT and 9600 GT... but considering what you'd be paying for an 8800 GT ($200 card new, here) and potential budget problems, you might want to go with it. It's not a /bad/ card.
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well budget is not a problem anymore ...my CC just got processed and i'll put the purchase on an EMI what ever the amount be....in that case what would be your suggestion?
 
dexterz said:
well budget is not a problem anymore ...my CC just got processed and i'll put the purchase on an EMI what ever the amount be....in that case what would be your suggestion?
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8800 GT for longevity's sake, and the MSI card for better cooling.
 
silent-circuit said:
8800 GT for longevity's sake, and the MSI card for better cooling.
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will do..just got in touch with the local dealer and he's just spouting of nonsense about MSI cards which was because he didn't stock them and didn't want to lose a sale...:mad:

he has XFX 8800GT same price...is the XFX good? also buying in local will remove any hassles involved with shipping and claiming any warranties ....

so now its either the XFX or the MSI and mostly after the answer for that i think i'll buy the one you guys suggest :)

i'll try to find out the version for the XFX 8800GT 512MB and update u
 
So long as you have a valid warranty the XFX may actually be better. It has a double-lifetime warranty (or should anyway) so you can transfer the warranty to the second owner, which may improve resale value.
 
the XFX has 3 year warranty here in India and the resale value in most cases here is 50% or original price....usually second buyers dont have problem in claiming warranty as all RMA are processed thru dealers only....

so XFX is the 1st choice with MSI being Second provided XFX has same or better specs as the MSI...else I'm buying the MSI card :)
 
If the warranty is the same just get the less expensive one. Clock speeds aren't worth paying for -- you can always OC yourself.
 
another friend of mine is now offering his XFX 8800GTS 320MB for 186USD....but not sure of buying ....its now two such cards offered to me now...is there a problem with this card?
 
dexterz said:
another friend of mine is now offering his XFX 8800GT 320MB for 186USD....but not sure of buying ....its now two such cards offered to me now...is there a problem with this card?
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The problem is that there is no such thing as an 8800GT 320mb ;) I'm guessing you meant GTS 320mb - in which case the card is slower than the 9600GT or 8800GT, and the 320mb of VRAM quickly becomes a limitation. Skip it.
 
kllrnohj said:
The problem is that there is no such thing as an 8800GT 320mb ;) I'm guessing you meant GTS 320mb - in which case the card is slower than the 9600GT or 8800GT, and the 320mb of VRAM quickly becomes a limitation. Skip it.
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never realised that G80 8800GTS was slower than a 9600GT....well in that case i'm gonna stick with the 8800GT from MSI or XFX or eVGA
 
the 8800GS has arrived in India from XFX...

the XFX GF 8800GS (T88S384DF4 - Alpha Dog) edition with 384MB is priced at 44USD lesser than a 512MB 8800GT....

are the 8800GS any good?
 
dexterz said:
the 8800GS has arrived in India from XFX...

the XFX GF 8800GS (T88S384DF4 - Alpha Dog) edition with 384MB is priced at 44USD lesser than a 512MB 8800GT....

are the 8800GS any good?
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It's a good card, about as fast as a 9600GT.
I bought a Gigabyte 8800GT with the Zalman cooler for 12k here in Bombay. Damn good deal.
 
The GS is a far inferior card to the GT, especially looking at longevity (the GT has a lot more SPs). I you can swing the extra $44, do so.
 
silent-circuit said:
The GS is a far inferior card to the GT, especially looking at longevity (the GT has a lot more SPs). I you can swing the extra $44, do so.
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i most certainly can....i'm short of dough for the corsair PSU so waiting for my CC so i can order the card next week and also the 9800 series will be out by then right?

i have around 3~4 PSU's lying around but none of them have a good +12V rating...the max is 20A ...maybe i'll keep the case open and connect the spare PSU to the GPU so the GPU can have a full 400W to itself :p ..it will save me the trouble of getting a new PSU but its not the most logical of solutions is it? :D
 
dexterz said:
i most certainly can....i'm short of dough for the corsair PSU so waiting for my CC so i can order the card next week and also the 9800 series will be out by then right?

i have around 3~4 PSU's lying around but none of them have a good +12V rating...the max is 20A ...maybe i'll keep the case open and connect the spare PSU to the GPU so the GPU can have a full 400W to itself :p ..it will save me the trouble of getting a new PSU but its not the most logical of solutions is it? :D
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If you can get one of those PSU jumpstarting leads and have somewhere you can jam a spare in the case... heck, go ahead. If you don't really care bout the PSU in question you could even cut off all but the ATX 24 pin and PCIe leads to save space, just remember to wrap the resulting bare ends real well with electrical tape.
 
the 9600 prices are falling fast here...but till now i've made up my mind to get the MSI 8800GT or the XFX one....but the way things are going it seems like the 9600gt will come to the price of the 8600gt i mentioned at the start of the thread...wont that be sweet...now i've come to another hurdle which is my current case wont fit the newer cards properly....gonna change the case to a better one too....may be a CM690 would do...
 
a user on another forum is selling his sapphire3870 512MB DDR4 card for 259USD....a new 8800GT costs 50USD more than this ....whats the verditct?
 
silent-circuit said:
The 8800 GT is faster, but not a ton more. Look at some benchmarks and decide for yourself.
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i think i'll be getting the 8800GT as there was no response from the 3870 seller....i think i'm going to get a dual PSU cabinet....the low rating on the +12V(17A) will not be problem if only the GPU is connected to it right?the two psu's combined will have 37Amps on the +12V rails...
 
well finally bought a MSI 8800GT OC card along with the Corsair VX450 and changed the mobo to an Abit IP35E and the cabinet is now a Cooler Master CM690...woooooooot
 
Heheh. Sounds like your "upgrade" went the same way as mind; started out minor, ended up being 3/4ths of the components.

I started replacing my CPU (dual with a quad) and that turned in to getting a second GPU as well, which lead to getting another motherboard (problems with the one I had), which lead to getting new RAM (new board doesn't like running with 4 1GB sticks)... and at some point I ended up with a new case as well.

End result, only the drives, PSU, one of the water loops (now have 2) and one of the two video cards carried over from my previous build. So much for an upgrade.
 
i had planned to get GPU,PSU like u suggested ..then found out that my then cabinet was too small for the GPU so added that to the list...the mobo was the only unplanned buy....next looking to get a TRUE cooler for OC'ing my CPU....now i use Nvidia control panel to control the fan speed...i set it to direct control...but after the restart the fan is under auto control...what am i doing wrong?

also my 3dmarks06 score went from a previous 513 to 9356...not bad right?
 
Not bad at all, no. OC some and you'll get higher, though you probably won't see much change in games. 3DMark is kind of stupid like that.
 
good...which would be a good s/w for benchmark then?

also can you shed any light on the fan control problem? the fan speed at 100% has the card idling at 54C...while auto control has it at 60C and when I was done with around 4 hours of crysis the gpu temp was at 85C...then i changed the side case fan to intake which lowered the temp by another 8C....what am i doing wrong?
 
You have high ambient temperatures and an 8800 GT... they run hot.

The point wasn't to find another benchmark program, it was to ignore them. ;)

I'd recommend using RivaTuner to control fan speed rather than Nvidia's nTune crap.
 
ok...so should i create a low level profile in riva tuner or a driver level one?...the fan on the MSI card is puny..i'll uninstall the ntune then huh?
 
Yeah, no reason to keep nTune around. A driver-level profile should work fine in RivaTuner. If that won't do what you want, look up how to create more complex low-level profiles. RivaTuner is admittedly far from intuitive, but it's fairly powerful software, and once you've got it set up it just chills and does what you want... so lacking a fancy GUI on something you'll set up once isn't as big a deal.
 
well then i'm gonna go home today evening and uninstall ntune....also GPUz tool shows the GPU temp to be 46.5C while the nvidia monitor shows 54C....confusing...
 
I normally just trust the RivaTuner reading... I don't know that any of them are all that accurate, though.
 
thanks SC...the CM690 is a monster of a case though...i can't use any of the top panel IO jacks
 
after installing riva tuner and creating a fan profile the idle temp is at 54 and load temp when playing crysis is at 62
 
dexterz said:
i had planned to get GPU,PSU like u suggested ..then found out that my then cabinet was too small for the GPU so added that to the list...the mobo was the only unplanned buy....next looking to get a TRUE cooler for OC'ing my CPU....now i use Nvidia control panel to control the fan speed...i set it to direct control...but after the restart the fan is under auto control...what am i doing wrong?

also my 3dmarks06 score went from a previous 513 to 9356...not bad right?
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TRUE=thermalright ultra extreme?
or
true=good
 
young boy said:
TRUE=thermalright ultra extreme?
or
true=good
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Ultra Extreme...just arrived yesterday evening...will install it today and start my OC...now its oc'd to 2.5GHz with load temps going to 63C in a 34C environ. hopefully the TRUE should get it to the 50's or even the higher 40's
 
Your room is just too freaking hot. I wouldn't expect to even idle much below 50C regardless of cooling, save below-ambient solutions (TECs, chilled water, phase).
 
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