Advice on Upgrade

No, unfortunately. 22A on the 12v rail means it's an older design -- high quality modern supplies have most of their power on the 12v rail because it is used by the CPU, GPU, HDDs, and optical drives, as well as many other accessories. It also looks kind of high on the "flash" factor, which tends to scream "compensation". Wouldn't get it.

For comparison purposes, the Corsair 520HX has 40A on the 12v rail (it claims 3 rails, but is actually a single rail unit). So by modern standards, the supply you have listed is effectively a ~250 watt unit, due to high reliance on the 12v rail.
 
You're looking for high efficiency, power rated at 40 or 50C (which is especially important given your hot environment), and high (35+) amps on the 12v rail/rails. If it's a multiple rail unit it should have combined output listed -- you cannot just add the rails up, as the outputs are listed as individual max outputs.
 
It's not bad. I tend to shy away from Antec PSUs due to previous bad experiences though.

Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, Seasonic, Silverstone, Etasis, Enermax Galaxy, Thermaltake Toughpower... those would be ideal.
 
just checked the price at newegg for the VX450W and its just 70 USD after rebate....i think i'm going to migrate somewhere cheaper :p
 
You can pick up a 450VX for $65 after rebate or so here. The CoolerMaster PSU is no good. Only their Real Power Pro line is any good.

It's not just you. All the UK guys get screwed on prices too. Lately the Canadians are winning.
 
An 8800 GT 512MB would be far faster than any of the older (320MB / 640MB) 8800 GTSs... and if you're buying used there, where XFX apparently doesn't offer a warranty, I'd say you'd be better off getting someone to ship you a faster, brand new card from over here. It's not a terrible deal considering what you're being asked to pay for many things over there, but it's nothing great.

PSU is kind of weak, and in your hot environment I don't know how well it'd do.
 
Whatever you do, bear in mind that the 38XX and 8800 series is much much much superior than anything else, including 8600, X1950 and 7900.
I'd say the 320MB 8800GTS being offered is a steal if it is still under warranty.
 
ok is an MSI 8800GT OC'd edition good?

http://xtremegx.com/store/8800gt-512mb-edition-p-202.html


also what do you think of the POV and Gigabyte brands?

this is the MSI 9600GT card...
http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=4_36&products_id=1360

there is a 40$ difference between the 8800GT OC and the 9600GT.

there are no EVGA or BFG cards available in India and palit seems to be available

So which one would be better?


Also check this Coolermaster PSU
http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=194&products_id=1310

if this aint ok then i'll be buying the Corsair 450W....
since its payday today I think I'll be able to buy the 8800GT now...
 
silent-circuit said:
An 8800 GT 512MB would be far faster than any of the older (320MB / 640MB) 8800 GTSs... and if you're buying used there, where XFX apparently doesn't offer a warranty, I'd say you'd be better off getting someone to ship you a faster, brand new card from over here. It's not a terrible deal considering what you're being asked to pay for many things over there, but it's nothing great.

PSU is kind of weak, and in your hot environment I don't know how well it'd do.
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XFX does offer warranty here but takes a very long time to replace a unit.also shipping here also comes to the same price as buying here because of high shipping costs and customs duty....even if we get around the customs by saying its a gift,i'm still paying a lot for a no warranty card....my head is starting to hurt:confused:

Palit has released a 9600GT for 240$ here and the 8800GT costs around 280 to 300$ with 3 years or lifetime warranty.
both card are now in my range since its payday :p

Is MSI or gigabyte a good company?

i wonder if there is any hierarchy in them.....
 
MSI more or less equal to Gigabyte, Plait slightly below them.

What resolution are you running again? That's what makes the determination between the 9600GT and the 8800GT.
 
I would go with the 9600GT. An 8800GT is worth it if it is $20-30 more, but $60 more? Eh, I'd go with the 9600GT

Then again, I game at 1280x1024, so....:eek:
 
silent-circuit said:
MSI more or less equal to Gigabyte, Plait slightly below them.

What resolution are you running again? That's what makes the determination between the 9600GT and the 8800GT.
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Well I am currently using 800*600 since my current card wont be good for anything higher

but if I get the 9600 or 8800 then I would say 1024*768 or 1280*1024...

So is MSI a good buy? The other brands available here are Sparkle , XFX, Galaxy as far as Nvidia is concerned.
 
Any brand should be OK, honestly. They almost all have at least 3 year warranties -- at least MSI and Gigabyte do. The 9600GT should be plenty for you at that resolution.

Spend the extra cash on the Corsair PSU.
 
In the long run which would be better? the 9600GT or 8800GT ...because as I'm spending a lot on this I wont be upgrading any time in the future....
the 8800Gt and corsair 450W will come to nearly 400 USD and the 9600GT to around 40 to 60 USD lesser....

also what is the PSU requirement for the 9600GT?
 
The 8800 GT is faster and has more stream processors, so it should last you longer over all. Since you're thinking long term, go with it.

Again, I strongly recommend the Corsair 450VX because it is rated at higher temperatures than most PSUs -- a really big deal when you're dealing with high ambient temperatures -- and has plenty of amps on the 12v rail.
 
silent-circuit said:
The 8800 GT is faster and has more stream processors, so it should last you longer over all. Since you're thinking long term, go with it.

Again, I strongly recommend the Corsair 450VX because it is rated at higher temperatures than most PSUs -- a really big deal when you're dealing with high ambient temperatures -- and has plenty of amps on the 12v rail.
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Great then the MSI 8800GT OC edition along with the Corsair PSU should hold me for quite some time right?

This is the MSI card I'm looking to buy
http://xtremegx.com/store/8800gt-512mb-edition-p-202.html

If you think this combo is good then I'll go ahead and buy them
 
Yes, it should hold you for ~2+ years at that res, barring something crazy happening. You may find yourself needing to OC your CPU or replace it at some point, but not right now.
 
silent-circuit said:
Yes, it should hold you for ~2+ years at that res, barring something crazy happening. You may find yourself needing to OC your CPU or replace it at some point, but not right now.
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The Galaxy 8800GT is 290USD and the MSI one costs 311 USD...Also I'm not that much into OC as the ambient temps make it a risk without extra cooling....

So Galaxy should be good right give its a 1000 INR cheaper?
 
just called and asked the dealer for the price of a 9600GT and he asks if its ATI...:shakes head: wish I lived in a different country
 
This is the spec for the POV Black Diamond 500W PSU...is this any good for a 9600GT or 8800GT?


+5V (40A)
- +12V1 (16A)
- +12V2 (17A)
- -12V (0.8A)
- +3.3V (34A)
- 5V VSB (2.5A)
 
dexterz said:
This is the spec for the POV Black Diamond 500W PSU...is this any good for a 9600GT or 8800GT?


+5V (40A)
- +12V1 (16A)
- +12V2 (17A)
- -12V (0.8A)
- +3.3V (34A)
- 5V VSB (2.5A)
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Dude.. which city are you in?
I'm from Bombay, and the prices you've quoted are a bit high.
There are a couple of dealers I know, who've started offering eVGA cards here now, complete with the step-up programme.

Also, the MSI 8800GT OC should be ~12.7k. The POV 9600GT is ~9.7k. Phoenix (the owner of XtremeGX you've linked to below) should be amenable to some bargaining ;)

You a member of TE/THL/Erodov? If so, nickname there?
 
TechHead said:
Dude.. which city are you in?
I'm from Bombay, and the prices you've quoted are a bit high.
There are a couple of dealers I know, who've started offering eVGA cards here now, complete with the step-up programme.

Also, the MSI 8800GT OC should be ~12.7k. The POV 9600GT is ~9.7k. Phoenix (the owner of XtremeGX you've linked to below) should be amenable to some bargaining ;)

You a member of TE/THL/Erodov? If so, nickname there?
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my nickname on erudov is adoetya.....i'm in chennai...i already spoke with the xtreme gx owner a couple of days back..what would you choose? the MSI OC edition for 12700 or the evga KO for 14250...i'll be casual gamer most of the time due to my job my main aim here is to get a good gfx card and PSU which can hold me for another 2 or maybe say 3 years...so say which card would be best in the long run for me...since I don't think my mom would let me invest anymore after this ;)
 
the difference between the MSI OC edition and Evga KO edition of 8800GT is 33USD...which should i go for ?the MSI is 660MHz and the KO is 675 MHz core
 
MSI should be fine. You will never notice a 15Mhz difference in core clock, and MSI's 3 year warranty is fine for what you want to do.

I'm still sticking with my Corsair recommendation. If I knew the POV unit were single rail being marketed as multi-rail to confirm with ATX 2.0 spec that'd be one thing... but I'd hate to see you run in to any over-draw related issues. Also, the Corsair is rated at 45C ambient, which means it should be more reliable in your hotter environment. Probably worth the extra cash there. That and it has a 5 year warranty.
 
damn when i think all is done and i can go ahead and get a 8800GT budget comes to bite me back in the @$$....i think i will have to wait another week for my CC to come and then buy a 8800GT...the MSI OC is it then I guess...the stock 8800GT from eVGA is 15$ more than MSI...if the prices drop over the week then maybe I'll go for eVGA or if the budget restrict me further then maybe I have to opt for the eVGA 9600GT KO...ie if all the other options are out..the PSU has been finalized to Corsair 450W....only the GPU remains to be seen ...thanks for the input Circuit
 
or would a 9600GT suffice for a casual gamer like me?? aaahhhh..i think i'm driving myself crazy....but since the investment is high guess I have to ponder a lot before actually buying it....
 
Depends how casual you are. I'd say to get the 8800 GT (more stream processors) not cause you're a hardcore gamer, but because it's more likely to remain comparatively capable for longer.
 
The 9600GT is a great card, but you said you wanted this to last you a while. Therefore, the 8800GT recommendation, which isn't all that much more. You'll be blown away by either card, so if budget is restrictive, get the 9600GT instead, otherwise, enjoy the performance of the excellent 8800GT

By the way, I would recommend the MSI card if it is the one with the new HSF design. The reference cooler that eVGA uses kind of sucks...
 
great ...i just sat down and listed the pros and cons of buying a 9600 or 8800 and also underwent the process of advanced arithmetic statistical elimination (called a coin toss :p ) and have decided to get the MSI 8800GT along with Corsair 450W VX.....
 
@kllrnohj
you said something about drivers for the creative 5.1 for Vista at the start of this thread..where to get them?
 
a user on another forum is selling his 8800GTS 320MB for 175USD...is it a good card?is it worth it and most importantly it should hold out for atleast a couple of years....like posted earlier i've finalized the PSU and got the prices for it and its on its way...now only have to order the card ...

shall i go for 8800GTS or get the 8800GT 512MB for 325USD?
 
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