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Abit IP35-E overclocking

You don't want to disable speedstep for 3.0ghz on the Q6600. You also don't want 800mhz on the ram. It'll actually run slower. I've benchmarked both ways. At 3.0ghz you want your RAM to run at 1:1 so it'll be only 666mhz (rather than 800 which is 1:1.2.)

anything below 70*C is deemed okay. Intel states below 71*C is ideal. I've had my Q6600 at 3.6Ghz as high at 74*C while under 100% load in prime 95. Some will tell you that's too hot, but it doesn't really matter much. The chip will survive to about 100*C or so without any permanent damage.

To disable speedstep to try to increase your overclock turn off C1E and EIST under CPU Features under Advanced BIOS features

C1E = voltage fluctuations allowing for lowering the voltage at idle states -- it's fine to have this enabled at 3.0ghz

EIST = the actual speedstepping function. Enabled is fine for all default multiplier overclocking, you only want to disable it if using an non-standard cpu multiplier - like 6, 7, or 8.
 
Whats the benefit of running the ram 1:1 with the FSB? Say I only can reach 400MHz FSB, and my ram is DDR2-1000. Would it be better to run the ram 1:1.25 so it can reach DDR2-1000?
 
per my post 2 above yours --- benchmark it both ways. In futuremark 06 my overall system was slower when I wasn't running my system at a 1:1.

I lost points when running my RAM at 800 mhz which was 1:1.2 vs. my RAM at 1:1 which was 666Mhz.

You can find out by just doing a couple benchmarks at both speeds. RAM speeds will show faster in a specific RAM test, but overall system benchmarks are sometimes slower when running asynchonously.
 
This Abit P35-E does not seem to like ram at anything but 1:1. My 4GB of Crucial Ballistix ran 1200 5-5-5-15 at 2.3V on Asus P5B Deluxe at 1:2 ratio fine but not on this board at all. Had to clock it down to 800 4-4-4-12 at 2.2 V. Running Q6600 G0 at 1.49V, vdroop to 1.408V stressing all 4 cores with Prime95. All 4 cores at 67 C full load. Should I dial down the Vcore?
 
67*C isn't a problem while running 100% on all four cores.

To O/C your ram increase the MCH voltage a notch or two.
 
I have an IP35-e and I'm running into some problems.
The main concern right now is the board temps. My PWM temps hit 82C stress testing then BSOD and I had some bsod's while gaming. This may be related to vdrop is what I have been told, but those temps worry me. I'm still trying to decide what I should do about this, fix the board or replace. I'm looking into better cooling and maybe the vdroop mod but it kinda worries me.
Just a heads up as this does turn out to be a known issue.
 
Cooling is definitely a concern but if you think the board is causing BSOD because it's faulty than do replace it.
 
Ou7k4st what are you clocked to?

You should be running stability tests using prime95 to determine your max stability. Your board is most likely NOT bad. Your wasting your time by replacing it...your better off trying to find your max O/C...
 
Archaea said:
per my post 2 above yours --- benchmark it both ways. In futuremark 06 my overall system was slower when I wasn't running my system at a 1:1.

I lost points when running my RAM at 800 mhz which was 1:1.2 vs. my RAM at 1:1 which was 666Mhz.
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In futuremark 06 with my resolution at 1920x1200(the resolution I normally use), my FSB at 400MHz and using PC2 6400 Ballistix,(double sided micronD9), I scored 11369 @1:1, 800MHz 4,4,4,12 and 11390 @1:1.2, 960MHz 5,5,5,15. So maybe it's your RAM and not the mobo?
I just got my system built this week so I haven't gotten my FSB to where I want it yet so hopefully once I get to about 444MHz the ratio score discrepancy might become a bit more apparent. Regardless, a difference of 21 points seems pretty meaningless though.
 
I bought this board yesterday for my wife's Q6600 build and this will be the third enthusiast build I've done on this CPU in the last couple months, including mine (in sig). I'll let you know how mine goes and see what I can get out of it on air.

It'll be:
ABIT IP35-E
Q6600 G0 (expecting 3.2 but gonna try to hit 3.6)
2gb GEIL DDR2 800 5-5-5-15
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro (and yes I know the fit requires work on this board, I am prepared)

Also as a note to earlier, I always run my memory in 1:1 -- ALWAYS. Crank up the FSB but keep the memory in sync. On all the builds I've done and seen so far, we've been able to hit 400 FSB with no problems, and 400 is the sweet spot for DDR2 memory. Of course, we were never shooting for more than 3.6ghz (and with a max 9x multiplier any more is impossible without further raising FSB assuming 1:1). I've seen a few stable builds where the memory isn't 1:1 but personally, I refuse to do it any other way.

Edit: Jay, that is well within the margin for error.
 
Archaea said:
per my post 2 above yours --- benchmark it both ways. In futuremark 06 my overall system was slower when I wasn't running my system at a 1:1.

I lost points when running my RAM at 800 mhz which was 1:1.2 vs. my RAM at 1:1 which was 666Mhz.
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i tried 1:1 with my ram being 600Mhz vs 750Mhz(1.25:1),
using single 3dmark03 mothernature test(last test), default setting on 3dmark03, but forced 8x AA, 16AF, multisampling transparency AA and some other high setting via nV CC, resulting 152.6 fps vs 153.2, so i'd say negative.


Blacklash said:
CPU Settings-

.....
*CPU VTT- 1.2375 *This is critical for quad OC
ICH- 1.60v
MCH- 1.33v(if you are only going 400x9 leave this @ stock voltage)
CPU GTLREF 67%
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i have two possibilities that could be the cause of my creative audigy 4 death (bought and used on nov 06), my experiment with voltage based on your post, or my current bios flashing (14--->16).

i'm not sure which one as i didn't know exactly, when did it died, i've been turning my speaker off because i was too busy with bios, prime and 3d mark for the last three days.
 
With creative who knows man, I had an original Audigy back in the day and it died to the well known issue of the... EEPROM I think it was, being overwritten causing the card to refuse any type of creative driver install. Not even manual would work in my case, I eventually had to burn the damn thing.

Last creative card I've bought for my home pc. Had a Santa Cruz ever since then and never regretted it, they haven't updated the drivers in like 4 years now but the thing is still one of the best audiophile cards on the market for those of us dedicated to music, and it runs all the newest games perfectly or nearly perfectly (granted without EAX most of the time but I've hated EAX since Creative used it to push out the superior and forward thinking A3D with strong arm tactics and shady business).

Wow, that last sentence was long. I better get back on topic... :eek:

My wife's IP35-E should be here Monday, fingers crossed. I'll post results as soon as I can.
 
How are folks doing on these boards with these chips still? I've been running mine a 333x9 all summer at stock voltage (3.0Ghz), at I'd say 99% stable. I've had about 3 crashes the whole summer on Vista 64. ----- But I'm ready to try at 400x8 again,

I have Vcore at 1.32
*CPU VTT- 1.2375
ICH- 1.50v
MCH- 1.32v
CPU GTLREF 67%

RAM - 5-5-5-12 at 2.05 volts.


BTW - there are several new BIOS updates out there now since I last looked. Use the windows tool ( I just successfully updated my Abit IP35-E to BIOS version 18 through the windows tool!)
 
New BIOS version seems to (at first appearance) make everything run a bit cooler at the same O/C.
 
mine still running strong, please post back here if you find the new bios allowed our beloved ip35-e to oc'ed even more.
 
Archaea said:
BTW - there are several new BIOS updates out there now since I last looked. Use the windows tool ( I just successfully updated my Abit IP35-E to BIOS version 18 through the windows tool!)
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Where did you get version 18? I only see version 17 on the Abit site. Nvm, I found it.

I still have the double boot issue. I thought that was fixed 3 versions prior.
 
hell i have to left my ups 'on' all the time because the double boot issue sometimes revert my cpu setup back to default.
 
I've been running my IP35-E since November (rig in sig) and I love this board. I haven't updated the BIOS since I got the board but I've never ran into the double boot issue ever. I game pretty hard for extended periods of time and so far its held up with flying colors.
 
I know this thread is ancient by now but I wanted to report that one of my two IP35-E boards died already, only lived about 7 months and the final 2 months were filled with BSODs and random lockups. This was running @ 333 bus, stock memory, and the CPU was only mildly overclocked (with no voltage adjustment) in a very cold case. Replaced it with a Gigabyte EP45-UD3R and all is golden again.
 
I know. I'm trying to fight it. I bought a new GTX 460 and OCZ vertex 2 SSD and the urge is stronger than ever. HOWEVER - while the I7-920 I have sitting in a computer to resell upstairs is calling my name -- I primarily game and benchmarks don't show that it's any faster than my current OC'ed Q9300, IP35-E and 8GB PC6400 combo.
 
Hey Archaea, what BIOs version are you running to use that Q9300? I'm planning on upgrading to a quad core but I wasn't sure if it would be compatible.
 
I'll check when I get home. I believe I just have the newest off the website --- it is still available, but I may have downloaded a beta one too... At any rate. The newest one from the website works too.
 
While not exactly the same I used to run an IP35-V and it's now currently in my wife's desktop with my old E2180.
 
|Tch0rT| said:
While not exactly the same I used to run an IP35-V and it's now currently in my wife's desktop with my old E2180.
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That's what I had this paired with at first. :eek:
Made for a really nice budget system.

Anyways.. after a long debate with myself, I caved and started building a new computer.
We'll see where this IP35-E ends up as its still going strong.
 
My IP35-Pro (still the same family) will be around for a little bit longer, but I'm pretty certain that Sandy bridge will be the death knell for my current rig, assuming SB performs and OC's well.
 
I'm still using a IP35-E and it's such a stable overclocker that I don't want to upgrade just yet. I still have a 7900gs that I haven't upgraded yet as well.
 
I still have my IP35-e up and running yet. Hell, I haven't found a reason not to be running it. It's performed flawlessly with a Q6600@3.6 since the day I got it. I have it running as the board in my file/media server. The only "problem" I have with the board in its current role is the fact that it only has 4 SATA ports which isn't enough for my server but that is my fault and not a fault of the board.

Like most of my hardware, I'll probably run it until it dies or becomes beyond obsolete. However, with the Q6600 paired with the board, it's probably going to take a while before it becomes truly obsolete.

 
SmokeRngs said:
I still have my IP35-e up and running yet. Hell, I haven't found a reason not to be running it. It's performed flawlessly with a Q6600@3.6 since the day I got it. I have it running as the board in my file/media server. The only "problem" I have with the board in its current role is the fact that it only has 4 SATA ports which isn't enough for my server but that is my fault and not a fault of the board.

Like most of my hardware, I'll probably run it until it dies or becomes beyond obsolete. However, with the Q6600 paired with the board, it's probably going to take a while before it becomes truly obsolete.

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That is one heck of a robust file server.
 
I still have an IP35-E in my daughter's Q6600 rig. Running quite nicely at 3.3 stable.
 
My ip35-e has been running flawlessly so far as well and hence I've had no real-reason to upgrade my system.

I'm still itching to open up that new shiny box and upgrade something... Maybe a cheap Q9550 upgrade, or maybe i'll see what sandy-bridge has to offer and switch out my entire system then.
 
any of you guys upgrade to an SSD? how is your performance? I notice we do not have AHCI options for the sata controller - soooooo we are probably severely hurt in speed right?
 
Hi :)

Don't want to start a new topic so I'll ask here.

I have IP35-E,
Q6600 with Scythe Mugen 2
GTX560ti
3Gb ram ddr2 800 (2x1Gb Patriot CL4 + 1Gb Kingston CL5)
Chieftec 450W
Vista x64

Now my CPU is running on these settings:

323*9 (2,9Ghz)
1:1,00
CPU Core Voltage 1,34
DDR: Auto
VTT CPU Voltage 1,2
ICH 1,5
MCH 1,25
GTLREF 67%
Ram at 5-5-5-15 and the rest default

and it's stable. But anything above 3Ghz and I find it impossible to get it stable.

Tried 3,4 (380*9)

Vcore 1.46v
VTT CPU Voltage 1,2375v
ICH- 1.60v
MCH- 1.33v
CPU GTLREF 67%
5-5-5-15, tREF 42 2T

and Prime95 errored me within 1min with rounding error. I bumped the vcore and vtt a notch and the same. Any ideas why? Is the mismatch of ram causing the problems?
 
Archaea said:
any of you guys upgrade to an SSD? how is your performance? I notice we do not have AHCI options for the sata controller - soooooo we are probably severely hurt in speed right?
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I bought this cheapo board way back when and later noticed the same thing, no ahci. I found it odd since the ip35 does support it with the same hardware, so I used my googlefu. I found a modified bios that will enable ahci for the ip35e.. mind you it's permanent meaning only another bios flash will 'disable' it. I'm not going to try to find it again, but it was from a user on a message board that does bios mods if that helps at all. There were some non-working bios's in that thread (which killed a board or two), so make sure it's the right one. It may not be worth the risk for you, but when I got my shiny new ssd I just couldn't resist - it has been working flawlessly for me.
 
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