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A3 core/ SMP2 PPD & config thread

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Kendrak

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Well I figured I'd give this a try, and it's working already.

a3-1.jpg


My i7 is running at just under 3.5Ghz. The thing I love is....

No VM, only using 2 gig of RAM.... for the WHOLE system!

This is quite nice. Now lets see if my system blows up. If this is stable and the PPD is true. When my dual Xeon mobo shows up tomorrow, I'll be getting a slight boost in PPD

 
Assuming the PPD is accurate and my eyes are not deceiving me, how can these WUs be getting as much or more than -bigadv WUs? :confused:
 
Kendrak said:
In my OP I said that the whole system is tanking up 2Gb of RAM. So this is a small small amount of RAM compared to -bigadv WU
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It's negligible really. Like the previous Win SMP WUs that hardly consumed any significant amounts of RAM largely due to the fact they ran natively. So, no secondary OS required with all the associated system memory allocated to just to run it.
 
Just a note. My PPD is swinging.

I've been jumping from 29-34k ppd and I'm only 11% done. Anyone else seeing this?
 
APOLLO said:
Assuming the PPD is accurate and my eyes are not deceiving me, how can these WUs be getting as much or more than -bigadv WUs? :confused:
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The new benchmark system is a Core i5-750 with Turbo Mode off.

The SMP1 -bigadv are still using the old benchmark system.

When SMP2 -bigadv come out, they will be re-benchmarked.
 
Kendrak said:
Just a note. My PPD is swinging.
I've been jumping from 29-34k ppd and I'm only 11% done. Anyone else seeing this?
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LOL ... I was waiting for someone to raise this question.

Because this core is threaded, all have to run at the same speed.

So, if you are using the computer, you are slowing down a thread with your browser and other appliations. When you slow down one, all of them slow down.
 
EvilAlchemist said:
The new benchmark system is a Core i5-750 with Turbo Mode off.

The SMP1 -bigadv are still using the old benchmark system.

When SMP2 -bigadv come out, they will be re-benchmarked.
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EA, you and Tobit are a wealth of information! Thanks for the heads up on the benchmarking details. :cool:
 
EvilAlchemist said:
HAHA .. Anytime ... EvilAlchemist Feburary 2010 !!!
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electevil.jpg


Ohh and Evil, per our phone conversation. HFM.net 4.8 made no diff on the ppd.

I'm not sure why this is punching out more :confused: Only thing I can think of is error, or -smp 8 made a diff.
 
Well, you are very lucky then.
You may want to get with Tobit and compare.

He has more expierence with single Core i7 then I do.
But I know you are blowing away all my and his numbers so far.

Be sure to check your F@H stats when it gets turned in to verify results.
 
K, I checked every one of my systems and benchmarks.
Something is throwing off your PPD.
Load up FAHmon and recheck that base ppd or load hfm.net on a second system and check that result.
 
Heres what i got with my first A3

SM X8DAL-i
2x E5530's ES(no turbo) with HT on
12GB(6x2) Gskill 1066MHZ
2x EVGA GTX 275's
Win7 Ultimate x64 Fresh install

Running the two GPU clients with priority set to high.
WinSMP 6.29 Project 6013(R0, C10, G123) = 2:44 TPF 14638.3 PPD based on last three frames according to HFM.net 0.4.8
 
Although K's numbers do seem unusually high, he is running a 6012 Project.

Which has 500000 steps, whereas the 6013's have 250000 steps

So there may be some project variation that is not being accounted for yet.
 
I am downloading the new client right now, and it says it will take 1hr and 23min
Its a 5MB file

LOL
 
nitrobass24 said:
Although K's numbers do seem unusually high, he is running a 6012 Project.Which has 500000 steps, whereas the 6013's have 250000 steps
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Also 6012 has lower base PPD vs 6013.
Different K Factor takes care of the difference.
6012 k-factor=2 6013 k factor=3.36
 
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Very odd at how K is seeing double the PpD I am yet I have faster frame times. Something isn't right. :confused:

My typical p6012 numbers:
Min. Time / Frame : 00:02:53 - 18,171.5 PPD
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:03:00 - 17,121.8 PPD
 
FAH mon is saying that I should be getting 17k ppd.

Now that is very odd, because there is no bonus mixed in with that.

Here is the whole log is anyone wants to dive into it:

Code: 
Launch directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\SMP Client
Executable: C:\Program Files (x86)\SMP Client\fah6.exe
Arguments: -advmethods -smp 8 

[05:02:50] - Ask before connecting: No
[05:02:50] - User name: Anonymous (Team 0)
[05:02:50] - User ID not found locally
[05:02:50] + Requesting User ID from server
[05:02:51] - Machine ID: 1
[05:02:51] 
[05:02:51] Work directory not found. Creating...
[05:02:51] Could not open work queue, generating new queue...
[05:02:51] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[05:02:51] Cleaning up work directory
[05:02:51] + Attempting to get work packet
[05:02:51] - Connecting to assignment server
[05:02:52] - Successful: assigned to (130.237.232.140).
[05:02:52] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[05:02:52] Loaded queue successfully.
[05:03:42] + Closed connections
[05:03:42] 
[05:03:42] + Processing work unit
[05:03:42] Core required: FahCore_a3.exe
[05:03:42] Core not found.
[05:03:42] - Core is not present or corrupted.
[05:03:42] - Attempting to download new core...
[05:03:42] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a3.exe
[05:03:43] + 10240 bytes downloaded
<snip>
[05:04:18] + 2020828 bytes downloaded
[05:04:18] Verifying core Core_a3.fah...
[05:04:18] Signature is VALID
[05:04:18] 
[05:04:18] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a3.exe
[05:04:18] Decompressed FahCore_a3.exe (5920768 bytes) successfully
[05:04:23] + Core successfully engaged
[05:04:28] 
[05:04:28] + Processing work unit
[05:04:28] Core required: FahCore_a3.exe
[05:04:28] Core found.
[05:04:28] Working on queue slot 01 [January 25 05:04:28 UTC]
[05:04:28] + Working ...
[05:04:28] 
[05:04:28] *------------------------------*
[05:04:28] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[05:04:28] Version 2.14 (Dec 16, 2009)
[05:04:28] 
[05:04:28] Preparing to commence simulation
[05:04:28] - Looking at optimizations...
[05:04:28] - Created dyn
[05:04:28] - Files status OK
[05:04:29] - Expanded 1797188 -> 2078149 (decompressed 115.6 percent)
[05:04:29] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=1797188 data_size=2078149, decompressed_data_size=2078149 diff=0
[05:04:29] - Digital signature verified
[05:04:29] 
[05:04:29] Project: 6012 (Run 0, Clone 74, Gen 96)
[05:04:29] 
[05:04:29] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[05:04:29] Entering M.D.
[05:04:35] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps  (0%)
[05:08:11] Completed 5000 out of 500000 steps  (1%)
[05:11:48] Completed 10000 out of 500000 steps  (2%)
[05:15:25] Completed 15000 out of 500000 steps  (3%)
[05:19:02] Completed 20000 out of 500000 steps  (4%)
[05:22:42] Completed 25000 out of 500000 steps  (5%)
[05:26:23] Completed 30000 out of 500000 steps  (6%)
[05:30:01] Completed 35000 out of 500000 steps  (7%)
[05:33:45] Completed 40000 out of 500000 steps  (8%)
[05:37:19] Completed 45000 out of 500000 steps  (9%)
[05:40:48] Completed 50000 out of 500000 steps  (10%)
[05:44:17] Completed 55000 out of 500000 steps  (11%)
[05:47:49] Completed 60000 out of 500000 steps  (12%)
[05:51:20] Completed 65000 out of 500000 steps  (13%)
[05:54:51] Completed 70000 out of 500000 steps  (14%)
[05:58:25] Completed 75000 out of 500000 steps  (15%)
[06:02:29] Completed 80000 out of 500000 steps  (16%)
[06:06:04] Completed 85000 out of 500000 steps  (17%)
[06:09:35] Completed 90000 out of 500000 steps  (18%)
[06:13:08] Completed 95000 out of 500000 steps  (19%)
[06:16:43] Completed 100000 out of 500000 steps  (20%)
[06:20:12] Completed 105000 out of 500000 steps  (21%)
[06:23:41] Completed 110000 out of 500000 steps  (22%)
[06:27:08] Completed 115000 out of 500000 steps  (23%)
[06:30:36] Completed 120000 out of 500000 steps  (24%)
[06:34:06] Completed 125000 out of 500000 steps  (25%)
[06:37:33] Completed 130000 out of 500000 steps  (26%)
[06:41:02] Completed 135000 out of 500000 steps  (27%)
[06:44:50] Completed 140000 out of 500000 steps  (28%)
[06:48:16] Completed 145000 out of 500000 steps  (29%)
[06:51:46] Completed 150000 out of 500000 steps  (30%)
[06:55:19] Completed 155000 out of 500000 steps  (31%)
[06:58:47] Completed 160000 out of 500000 steps  (32%)
[07:02:16] Completed 165000 out of 500000 steps  (33%)
[07:05:44] Completed 170000 out of 500000 steps  (34%)
[07:09:10] Completed 175000 out of 500000 steps  (35%)
[07:12:40] Completed 180000 out of 500000 steps  (36%)
[07:16:08] Completed 185000 out of 500000 steps  (37%)
[07:19:37] Completed 190000 out of 500000 steps  (38%)
[07:23:05] Completed 195000 out of 500000 steps  (39%)
[07:26:33] Completed 200000 out of 500000 steps  (40%)
[07:30:00] Completed 205000 out of 500000 steps  (41%)
[07:33:29] Completed 210000 out of 500000 steps  (42%)
[07:36:57] Completed 215000 out of 500000 steps  (43%)
[07:40:25] Completed 220000 out of 500000 steps  (44%)
[07:43:54] Completed 225000 out of 500000 steps  (45%)
[07:47:19] Completed 230000 out of 500000 steps  (46%)
[07:50:48] Completed 235000 out of 500000 steps  (47%)
[07:54:15] Completed 240000 out of 500000 steps  (48%)
[07:57:43] Completed 245000 out of 500000 steps  (49%)
[08:02:27] Completed 250000 out of 500000 steps  (50%)
[08:05:56] Completed 255000 out of 500000 steps  (51%)
[08:09:22] Completed 260000 out of 500000 steps  (52%)
[08:12:51] Completed 265000 out of 500000 steps  (53%)
[08:16:19] Completed 270000 out of 500000 steps  (54%)
[08:19:46] Completed 275000 out of 500000 steps  (55%)
[08:23:15] Completed 280000 out of 500000 steps  (56%)
[08:26:45] Completed 285000 out of 500000 steps  (57%)
[08:30:13] Completed 290000 out of 500000 steps  (58%)
[08:33:42] Completed 295000 out of 500000 steps  (59%)
[08:37:10] Completed 300000 out of 500000 steps  (60%)
[08:40:39] Completed 305000 out of 500000 steps  (61%)
[08:44:08] Completed 310000 out of 500000 steps  (62%)
[08:47:38] Completed 315000 out of 500000 steps  (63%)
[08:51:07] Completed 320000 out of 500000 steps  (64%)
[08:54:37] Completed 325000 out of 500000 steps  (65%)
[08:58:04] Completed 330000 out of 500000 steps  (66%)
[09:01:34] Completed 335000 out of 500000 steps  (67%)
[09:05:04] Completed 340000 out of 500000 steps  (68%)
[09:08:33] Completed 345000 out of 500000 steps  (69%)
[09:12:02] Completed 350000 out of 500000 steps  (70%)
[09:15:31] Completed 355000 out of 500000 steps  (71%)
[09:18:58] Completed 360000 out of 500000 steps  (72%)
[09:22:27] Completed 365000 out of 500000 steps  (73%)
[09:25:56] Completed 370000 out of 500000 steps  (74%)
[09:29:23] Completed 375000 out of 500000 steps  (75%)
[09:32:52] Completed 380000 out of 500000 steps  (76%)
[09:36:20] Completed 385000 out of 500000 steps  (77%)
[09:39:49] Completed 390000 out of 500000 steps  (78%)
[09:43:18] Completed 395000 out of 500000 steps  (79%)
[09:46:48] Completed 400000 out of 500000 steps  (80%)
[09:50:18] Completed 405000 out of 500000 steps  (81%)
[09:53:48] Completed 410000 out of 500000 steps  (82%)
[09:57:17] Completed 415000 out of 500000 steps  (83%)
[10:00:46] Completed 420000 out of 500000 steps  (84%)
[10:04:14] Completed 425000 out of 500000 steps  (85%)
[10:07:42] Completed 430000 out of 500000 steps  (86%)
[10:11:11] Completed 435000 out of 500000 steps  (87%)
[10:14:40] Completed 440000 out of 500000 steps  (88%)
[10:18:07] Completed 445000 out of 500000 steps  (89%)
[10:21:37] Completed 450000 out of 500000 steps  (90%)
[10:25:06] Completed 455000 out of 500000 steps  (91%)
[10:28:35] Completed 460000 out of 500000 steps  (92%)
[10:32:03] Completed 465000 out of 500000 steps  (93%)
[10:35:33] Completed 470000 out of 500000 steps  (94%)
[10:39:25] Completed 475000 out of 500000 steps  (95%)
[10:43:22] Completed 480000 out of 500000 steps  (96%)
[10:47:20] Completed 485000 out of 500000 steps  (97%)
[10:51:15] Completed 490000 out of 500000 steps  (98%)
[10:55:11] Completed 495000 out of 500000 steps  (99%)
[10:59:06] Completed 500000 out of 500000 steps  (100%)
[10:59:07] DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
[10:59:17] 
[10:59:17] Finished Work Unit:
[10:59:17] - Reading up to 20446800 from "work/wudata_01.trr": Read 20446800
[10:59:17] trr file hash check passed.
[10:59:17] edr file hash check passed.
[10:59:17] logfile size: 54963
[10:59:17] Leaving Run
[10:59:20] - Writing 20535403 bytes of core data to disk...
[10:59:20]   ... Done.
[10:59:23] - Shutting down core
[10:59:23] 
[10:59:23] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[10:59:26] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[10:59:26] Sending work to server
[10:59:26] Project: 6012 (Run 0, Clone 74, Gen 96)


[10:59:26] + Attempting to send results [January 25 10:59:26 UTC]
[11:05:42] + Results successfully sent
[11:05:42] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[11:05:42] + Starting local stats count at 1
[11:05:47] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[11:05:47] Cleaning up work directory
[11:05:47] + Attempting to get work packet
[11:05:47] - Connecting to assignment server
[11:05:47] - Successful: assigned to (130.237.232.140).
[11:05:47] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[11:05:48] Loaded queue successfully.
[11:07:58] + Closed connections
[11:07:58] 
[11:07:58] + Processing work unit
[11:07:58] Core required: FahCore_a3.exe
[11:07:58] Core found.
[11:07:58] Working on queue slot 02 [January 25 11:07:58 UTC]
[11:07:58] + Working ...
[11:07:58] 
[11:07:58] *------------------------------*
[11:07:58] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[11:07:58] Version 2.14 (Dec 16, 2009)
[11:07:58] 
[11:07:58] Preparing to commence simulation
[11:07:58] - Looking at optimizations...
[11:07:58] - Created dyn
[11:07:58] - Files status OK
[11:07:58] - Expanded 1797765 -> 2078149 (decompressed 115.5 percent)
[11:07:58] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=1797765 data_size=2078149, decompressed_data_size=2078149 diff=0
[11:07:58] - Digital signature verified
[11:07:58] 
[11:07:58] Project: 6012 (Run 0, Clone 163, Gen 12)
[11:07:58] 
[11:07:58] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[11:07:58] Entering M.D.
[11:08:04] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps  (0%)
[11:12:01] Completed 5000 out of 500000 steps  (1%)
[11:15:49] Completed 10000 out of 500000 steps  (2%)
[11:19:26] Completed 15000 out of 500000 steps  (3%)
[11:23:05] Completed 20000 out of 500000 steps  (4%)
[11:26:43] Completed 25000 out of 500000 steps  (5%)
[11:30:21] Completed 30000 out of 500000 steps  (6%)
[11:33:59] Completed 35000 out of 500000 steps  (7%)
[11:37:38] Completed 40000 out of 500000 steps  (8%)
[11:41:15] Completed 45000 out of 500000 steps  (9%)
[11:44:54] Completed 50000 out of 500000 steps  (10%)
[11:48:33] Completed 55000 out of 500000 steps  (11%)
[11:52:10] Completed 60000 out of 500000 steps  (12%)
[11:55:50] Completed 65000 out of 500000 steps  (13%)
[11:59:28] Completed 70000 out of 500000 steps  (14%)
[12:04:09] Completed 75000 out of 500000 steps  (15%)
[12:07:48] Completed 80000 out of 500000 steps  (16%)
[12:11:27] Completed 85000 out of 500000 steps  (17%)
[12:15:07] Completed 90000 out of 500000 steps  (18%)
[12:18:45] Completed 95000 out of 500000 steps  (19%)
[12:22:24] Completed 100000 out of 500000 steps  (20%)
[12:26:03] Completed 105000 out of 500000 steps  (21%)
[12:29:42] Completed 110000 out of 500000 steps  (22%)
[12:33:21] Completed 115000 out of 500000 steps  (23%)
[12:37:00] Completed 120000 out of 500000 steps  (24%)
[12:40:39] Completed 125000 out of 500000 steps  (25%)
[12:44:17] Completed 130000 out of 500000 steps  (26%)
[12:47:57] Completed 135000 out of 500000 steps  (27%)
[12:51:36] Completed 140000 out of 500000 steps  (28%)
[12:55:15] Completed 145000 out of 500000 steps  (29%)
[12:58:53] Completed 150000 out of 500000 steps  (30%)
[13:02:32] Completed 155000 out of 500000 steps  (31%)
[13:06:12] Completed 160000 out of 500000 steps  (32%)
[13:09:50] Completed 165000 out of 500000 steps  (33%)
[13:13:28] Completed 170000 out of 500000 steps  (34%)
[13:17:07] Completed 175000 out of 500000 steps  (35%)
[13:20:46] Completed 180000 out of 500000 steps  (36%)
[13:24:24] Completed 185000 out of 500000 steps  (37%)
[13:28:03] Completed 190000 out of 500000 steps  (38%)
[13:31:43] Completed 195000 out of 500000 steps  (39%)
[13:35:22] Completed 200000 out of 500000 steps  (40%)
[13:39:00] Completed 205000 out of 500000 steps  (41%)
[13:42:37] Completed 210000 out of 500000 steps  (42%)
[13:46:15] Completed 215000 out of 500000 steps  (43%)
[13:49:53] Completed 220000 out of 500000 steps  (44%)
[13:53:32] Completed 225000 out of 500000 steps  (45%)
[13:57:11] Completed 230000 out of 500000 steps  (46%)
[14:00:50] Completed 235000 out of 500000 steps  (47%)
[14:04:28] Completed 240000 out of 500000 steps  (48%)
[14:08:06] Completed 245000 out of 500000 steps  (49%)
[14:11:43] Completed 250000 out of 500000 steps  (50%)
[14:15:22] Completed 255000 out of 500000 steps  (51%)
[14:19:01] Completed 260000 out of 500000 steps  (52%)
[14:22:41] Completed 265000 out of 500000 steps  (53%)
[14:26:19] Completed 270000 out of 500000 steps  (54%)
[14:29:56] Completed 275000 out of 500000 steps  (55%)
[14:33:35] Completed 280000 out of 500000 steps  (56%)
[14:37:15] Completed 285000 out of 500000 steps  (57%)
[14:41:09] Completed 290000 out of 500000 steps  (58%)
[14:45:15] Completed 295000 out of 500000 steps  (59%)
[14:49:14] Completed 300000 out of 500000 steps  (60%)
 
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Something is very odd in Kendrak-land.. *scratches head* hmm, gotta think about this some more.
 
Well now HFM.net is showing 4:15 TPF and ~22k ppd with a credit of ~6500.

I don't know WTF is going on here. (I didn't run any major apps, just the same as what I've been doing)
 
I think the issue lies in your Flux Capacitor. I told you to upgrade to the newest model years ago. Tisk Tisk Tisk
 
I just got an A3 work unit on my centos linux vm at work... P6012 R0 C76 G88

I don't have any monitoring tools for it but it's showing just under 9min per % on a stock Q6600.

I may just keep this one going as a VM and change my pc at home to use the Windows client.
 
I'm running a Core i7 920 at just under 3.5GHz, and I'm getting just under 11k ppd. HFM.NET says the credit I should get is 2500 points for a 6013. Is this right? I'm just getting kind of jealous seeing how everyone else is getting 20, 30k ppd...
 
Mr. Pedantic said:
I'm running a Core i7 920 at just under 3.5GHz, and I'm getting just under 11k ppd. HFM.NET says the credit I should get is 2500 points for a 6013. Is this right? I'm just getting kind of jealous seeing how everyone else is getting 20, 30k ppd...
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This is correct and is similar to what I am getting (I am clocked just a little faster than you and getting just a bit more PpD than your number). I still do not believe Kendrak's HFM.net is calculating the bonus for him correctly as it in no way comes close to the numbers EA and I were experiencing during testing.
 
Mr. Pedantic said:
I'm running a Core i7 920 at just under 3.5GHz, and I'm getting just under 11k ppd. HFM.NET says the credit I should get is 2500 points for a 6013. Is this right? I'm just getting kind of jealous seeing how everyone else is getting 20, 30k ppd...
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K is photoshoping his Screenshots :p
 
so what is an expected i7 @ more than 3.5 to get? around 15k?
 
Anyone ran the A3 WUs in a Linux VM and Windows on the same system to give comparative results?
 
APOLLO said:
Anyone ran the A3 WUs in a Linux VM and Windows on the same system to give comparative results?
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Both Tobit and Evil have siad there is little to no difference.

If anything a slight disadvantage to the VM because of the extra layers of OS.
 
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Even compared to native Linux, there is little difference in performance.
 
Kendrak said:
Both Tobit and Evil have siad there is little to no difference.

If anything a slight disadvantage to the VM because of the extra layers of OS.
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Tobit said:
Even compared to native Linux, there is little difference in performance.
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Well, I'm getting only ~1300 PPD with a P6015 WU on my Skulltrail system and all 8 cores engaged but in one way I'm not too surprised. That system is either defective or just plain sucks in performance like I mentioned in other threads. However, I do believe I was seeing better results with the A2 core WUs and Linux VM. I will need to check the logs to be certain..
 
APOLLO said:
Well, I'm getting only ~1300 PPD with a P6015 WU on my Skulltrail system and all 8 cores engaged but in one way I'm not too surprised. That system is either defective or just plain sucks in performance like I mentioned in other threads. However, I do believe I was seeing better results with the A2 core WUs and Linux VM. I will need to check the logs to be certain..
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Wow.... Your sure you don't have 1 CPU option enabled in the bios?

Have you run some benchmarks on it? Is it just folding that it sucks at?
 
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