8800GTS 74C Idle!

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Hey guys. I have come to trust the [H] community with all of my hardware problems in the past, and I have faith you can figure this out as well.

Well I was just sitting here, listening to some music, browsing some community sites ect. - and over my music I hear this whirring sound, it was my GTS 640MB. I checked the temps and this is what I got:

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Man! 74C pretty much Idle!? This card is stock clocks!

I guess I'm just wondering if these temps are normal or not, they don't seem like it to me, but I could be wrong.

So I opened the side of my case, and it dropped 1C - 73C now.

I have a P180B, and the airflow is pretty decent. Top 120MM, front 120MM, lower chamber 80MM, back 120MM, Antec Tricools @ med speed.

Any suggestions? Or is 74C okay?
 
IDLE?? I never heard of one so high. My 8800gts idles 55C on a hot day, usually 50C on normal days. You might think about re-seating your stock cooler.
 
What does it get to under load?

I don't think it's a case airflow issue, as I have the same case and didn't get temps even close to that bad when I was still using air cooling on my GTX, which runs hotter than a GTS by a good bit. 75C was full load after a considerable period of time.

Might just have a bad application of thermal paste. Got some AS5 or Ceramique around? Pull the stock HSF off, clean the paste off the core, put some of that on it and see if things improve.

Have a single slot blower laying around? Put it in the case under the GTS so that it sucks air out of the slots toward the back of the card and exhausts out the back of the case. This dropped my temps nearly 10C.
 
try adjusting the fan speeds to 100% in the nvidia control panel>adjust gpu settings

my gtx idles anywhere from 57C-70C depending on the ambient temp
 
plac said:
You might think about re-seating your stock cooler.
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While you really shouldn't have the problem that I had, after 2.5 years of having a 7800GTX, I finally reseated the headsink. I was getting temperatures in the high 60s and low 70s, and I never had seen them that high. I reseated and the temperatures dropped to nearly about 45 degrees idle.
 
silent-circuit said:
What does it get to under load?

I don't think it's a case airflow issue, as I have the same case and didn't get temps even close to that bad when I was still using air cooling on my GTX, which runs hotter than a GTS by a good bit. 75C was full load after a considerable period of time.

Might just have a bad application of thermal paste. Got some AS5 or Ceramique around? Pull the stock HSF off, clean the paste off the core, put some of that on it and see if things improve.

Have a single slot blower laying around? Put it in the case under the GTS so that it sucks air out of the slots toward the back of the card and exhausts out the back of the case. This dropped my temps nearly 10C.
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I dunno if I feel confident pulling the stock HSF off my GTS, but I will consider.

Slot coolers are pretty cheap too, that may be my solution, but in the past it has never run this hot. :(

Mr. Stryker said:
Got a picture of your computer?
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As requested:

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Okay, I know the wire management is non-existent here...but hey. If no one sees it...why should I care? :p Camera phones...sheeesh. Those screen shots look like crap.

DrewRosenHouse said:
try adjusting the fan speeds to 100% in the nvidia control panel>adjust gpu settings

my gtx idles anywhere from 57C-70C depending on the ambient temp
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For some reason, NTune wouldn't let me up the fan speed. I couldn't select ''Manual fan control'' or what-not.

Any suggestions?
 
I have 8800GTS 640MB in Sugo case and idel temps are 89C... load 95C... so.. WTF???
 
phinix said:
I have 8800GTS 640MB in Sugo case and idel temps are 89C... load 95C... so.. WTF???
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You really need to do something about that.

Back to the OP...

Wire management matters. It improves airflow and thusly, temps. Clean things up and your problem could fix itself... but more than likely it will require reseating the heatsink.
 
If its a new thing, clean out all the dust from the computer, that should drop temps quite a bit. Also if you have a desk fan take the side off the case and point the fan at it, see what happens with the temps.

Also as stated above, use rivatuner to force the fan to run @ 100% and see what the temps drop to. If its making a funky noise while not at high speeds, might need to RMA it, you might have a bad fan.
 
My 8800GTS 640mb idles when first started at 55c I think, it's been on all day, been a little sunny earlier, and is now idling at 59c. Full load I think it's aout 70c.
 
Getting a extra fan or better cooling would be a easy way to get around a problem that should be addressed directly. Has this always been a problem with the card? Have you had the card at lower temps and now all the sudden its jumped it? Or did you just install it and figure out the high temps? If you just got the card I would reccomend you to RMA it. If this problem has slowly crept up on you I would reccomend you clean your pc up a bit and reseat the heat sink. Since your not comfertable performing such a operation I would suggest reading this, it should help you through the process: http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~douglee/8800GTS/8800GTS.htm. Its a XFX card but its the same concept I guess. Have fun lol.
 
The eVGA cards are known to run hot. Especially the superclocked versions. I avoided buy one after reading the customer reviews on Newegg. The only real option is to get plenty of air circulation in your case. Perhaps buy a PCI slot exhaust fan and seat it near the gfx card. Otherwise leave the side off your PC
 
spicey said:
The eVGA cards are known to run hot. Especially the superclocked versions. I avoided buy one after reading the customer reviews on Newegg. The only real option is to get plenty of air circulation in your case. Perhaps buy a PCI slot exhaust fan and seat it near the gfx card. Otherwise leave the side off your PC
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Double post!
 
spicey said:
The eVGA cards are known to run hot. Especially the superclocked versions. I avoided buy one after reading the customer reviews on Newegg. The only real option is to get plenty of air circulation in your case. Perhaps buy a PCI slot exhaust fan and seat it near the gfx card. Otherwise leave the side off your PC
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Most of the Nvidia cards are using reference designs, the high temps you are seeing is not unique to the eVGA cards. FWIW, my GTS 640 MB was idling at 63C and hitting mid 80s underl oad. I just recently switched to water cooling and saw a drop down to 43C idle up to 50C at load... With the new temps I am now working on improving my cards overclock.
 
What is the ambient temperature? We're about through with a heat wave that struck CA, was around 105F-110F for 9 days straight here in the valleys, more like 90F something now.

Ambient temp is 94F and my 8800GTS is idling at 64F. Pretty toasty here.
 
Morpheus'rig said:
Most of the Nvidia cards are using reference designs, so the temp problem is not uniq
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yes, but the superclocked ones DO NOT run reference clocks............ therefore they are OVERCLOCKED, just factory overclocked instead of DIY..............
 
Well I think I may just take the time and clean it out Ect.

I have an air compressor, what setting should I put it on? I heard 40PSI is pretty good, but any suggestions would be appreciated.

Other than that, I'll try and do some wire management ect, and see if my temps drop.

I'm not sure what the ambient temps are here...it feels hot so I bet probably 80F+.

Any other suggestions?
 
my 8800 idles at 60, and runs on a crappy overstressed psu, and its fine... mind you the psu situation still scares me, replacing psu as soon as I start making money again.
 
Yeah, it's definitely a 8800GTS chipset issue and not just eVGA cards.

It's been warm here in the UK the last few days and my new Inno3d 8800GTS is running hot. Idle is around 64C with case cover off and 70's with the cover on. I have limited space for fans sadly. Under load it's going up to around 80C. These cards are quite flawed, I can't believe the heat these things pump out. I wish I'd stuck with my 7900GT now.
 
spicey said:
Yeah, it's definitely a 8800GTS chipset issue and not just eVGA cards.

It's been warm here in the UK the last few days and my new Inno3d 8800GTS is running hot. Idle is around 64C with case cover off and 70's with the cover on. I have limited space for fans sadly. Under load it's going up to around 80C. These cards are quite flawed, I can't believe the heat these things pump out. I wish I'd stuck with my 7900GT now.
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Running hot doesn't necessarily mean they're "flawed". If you have poor case air flow that is your issue, and yes, it would have been nice to see them run cooler, but are they loud? No. Do they appear to be damaged by the high heat in any way? No. I've heard of a few cards that have died due to over-volting after mods, but none that've died due to running too hot.
 
silent-circuit said:
Running hot doesn't necessarily mean they're "flawed". If you have poor case air flow that is your issue, and yes, it would have been nice to see them run cooler, but are they loud? No. Do they appear to be damaged by the high heat in any way? No. I've heard of a few cards that have died due to over-volting after mods, but none that've died due to running too hot.
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They run quiet but you need 10 fans to cool the card down which kind of defeats the point in the first place.

Running so hot is a problem for me, so it looks like watercooling could be the way forward. At least in the winter I won't need to put the central heating on in the office
 
Do not use an air compressor, use that canned air stuff. All an air compressor will do is add moisture to your computer board, and some of thoe air compressors are powerful enough to damage things....
 
my eVGA 8800gts idles at 55C and maxes out at 66C. And thats way overclocked.

Best 3dmark06 = 10,096
 
HAHAHA.. I laugh at "not using air compressors".. course I was in Tucson, AZ last time I did that.

Let the compressor fill up to 125psi.. stick the sprayer on it.. take my puter outside and blow all the dust out.

Mind you.. at 125psi, I didn't stick the nozzle real close to the boards.. no need to... About 1.5 feet away was plenty close.
 
cyclone3d said:
HAHAHA.. I laugh at "not using air compressors".. course I was in Tucson, AZ last time I did that.

Let the compressor fill up to 125psi.. stick the sprayer on it.. take my puter outside and blow all the dust out.

Mind you.. at 125psi, I didn't stick the nozzle real close to the boards.. no need to... About 1.5 feet away was plenty close.
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yup. i keep my compressor about 90psi and i dont hold it too close. no way youre cleaning out the internals of your power supply with a can of air.
 
Comte said:
Do not use an air compressor, use that canned air stuff. All an air compressor will do is add moisture to your computer board, and some of thoe air compressors are powerful enough to damage things....
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Yeh, also don't turn the canned air upside down.

For drunken fun, get some and a spanner, use the spanner to whack the top off, teh funny will be present. :p
 
I downloaded Nvidia Ntune and set the fan to 100%, temps idle are now around 54C and 70C under load with the case sides on. The gfx card fan seems to a decent job exhausting the hot air at this speed. Sounds a little louder but still pretty quiet, especially during gaming when the sound is on. During long download sessions I'll set the clock speeds lower to save energy. Dynamically setting the fan speed doesn't seem to work as under load the fan speed remains at 60%, I'm not sure why that is? I'm using 163.44 drivers for Bioshock.
 
spicey said:
I downloaded Nvidia Ntune and set the fan to 100%, temps idle are now around 54C and 70C under load with the case sides on. The gfx card fan seems to a decent job exhausting the hot air at this speed. Sounds a little louder but still pretty quiet, especially during gaming when the sound is on. During long download sessions I'll set the clock speeds lower to save energy. Dynamically setting the fan speed doesn't seem to work as under load the fan speed remains at 60%, I'm not sure why that is? I'm using 163.44 drivers for Bioshock.
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Google + 8800 + Rivatuner + Fan Speed Guide = Your best friend =)
 
With RivaTuner you can also set separate 2D/3D clocks so you don't have to go in and do it yourself all the time.
 
wow all this guys temp seem high to me. cpu, chipset, system and gpu. are you sure ntune is working properly? 55c for the cpu??? 53c for the system?? 72c chipset?? and gpu 74c??? have you tried using something other than nture to monitor your temps? my 8800 doesnt go above 70c even after hours of gaming.
 
don't feel so bad... my gtx is doing 78-80 idle and 85-88 load... cept when playing far cry... for some reason it feels the need to hit 94C....

to put it in perspective of my case, my cpu idles 41C and 59C under load with 4 instances of prime...
 
Slade said:
don't feel so bad... my gtx is doing 78-80 idle and 85-88 load... cept when playing far cry... for some reason it feels the need to hit 94C....

to put it in perspective of my case, my cpu idles 41C and 59C under load with 4 instances of prime...
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...pull the heatsink, replace goop and re-seat. Those temps are horrible assuming you're running stock clocks.
 
I've already reseated twice looks like the air coming off 4 harddrives aren't helping the GTX cool itself
 
I just noticed it runs hotter in Vista than in XP... I guess it's the aero interface keeping the temps up.
 
Slade said:
I just noticed it runs hotter in Vista than in XP... I guess it's the aero interface keeping the temps up.
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I also ran in to that -- my card never went back down to 2D clocks running Vista. So... I turned Aero off. Thought it was ugly anyway. Just wish I could go to a gray-black scheme with 'basic'. Also used RivaTuner to set lower 2D clocks... no reason to waste power doing little to nothing.
 
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