8800gt or 9600gt

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fghi

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Can someone please tell me if I can get either one of these cards with this power supply?!?!?!?

+3.3V = 28A
+5V = 34A
+12V = 14A

Its a 450W

thank you!!! :)
 
Kinda low on the 12v. That psu looks like it would handle a lot of HDs though. Anyone have a quick figure on 12v requirements for current cards might be?
 
when you ask a question like this please list ALL your comp specs. also how old is that psu because most modern ones have much more on the 12v than the 3.3 and 5? anyway theres no way it would be good enough to run even the 9600gt.
 
Yeah 14a on the 12v rail is too low, you can just get the 9600gt + a decent psu instead of the 8800gt.
 
Either there's more than one +12v rail and you've only got the first or you have one ancient PSU my friend.
 
my pc is a

x2 4200+ 939 @ 2.6
3gb ddr 400
bgf 8600gt
wd 640hd
pioneer dvd
Hauppauge tv tuner card

and the above power supply

and I wanted to put one of those two cards in place of the 8600gt
 
fghi said:
my pc is a

x2 4200+ 939 @ 2.6
3gb ddr 400
bgf 8600gt
wd 640hd
and the above power supply

and I wanted to put one of those two cards in place of the 8600gt
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well its not going to happen on that power supply. modern comps need most of their juice from the 12V and thats where your psu is severely lacking. in fact even with that 8600gt your pc is pushing it with only 14amps under full system load.
 
So basically get a new PSU first before you get a new card. Not a smart idea to trust any kind of gaming rig on a system with that low of +12V rail. I recommend this PSU as a bare minium for a gaming rig:
Antec True Power Trio TP3-430 430W PSU - $40

And get the 8800GT if it's only $10 to $15 more than the 9600GT.
 
With those computer specs why not just a 8800GS or 9600GSO. The rest of your parts will probably bottleneck even the 9600GT.
 
I've got a friend running 9600gt with non-branded 400W PSU that came with the $20 case.

So go ahead my friend and get a 9600gt, it should work perfectly with your 450W PSU.
 
SoLiD_MasteR said:
I've got a friend running 9600gt with non-branded 400W PSU that came with the $20 case.

So go ahead ang get a 9600gt, it should work perfectly with your 450W PSU.
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Until something pops and he comes after you..

Wasn't there a deal for the 8800GSO for $50?
 
lol the 9600gt went up $5 and the 8800gt went down $10... no brainer now to get the 8800gt.
 
SoLiD_MasteR said:
I've got a friend running 9600gt with non-branded 400W PSU that came with the $20 case.

So go ahead my friend and get a 9600gt, it should work perfectly with your 450W PSU.
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My friend has a car that looks like mine and does 200mph.
It doesnt mean mine will though!
 
GS GSO.. I've given up on nvidia til they change their naming schemes. Anyways, didn't know the rebate was $50.. what about scavenging through craigslist :p?
 
you can get G92 8800GTS's on evga bstock for 100 bucks! that's what I'd do! buy like an Antec Neopower 650 and call it a day! future upgrade would be a new computer
 
CruisD64 said:
you can get G92 8800GTS's on evga bstock for 100 bucks! that's what I'd do! buy like an Antec Neopower 650 and call it a day! future upgrade would be a new computer
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for the same amount of money he could have a brand new 8800gt with a real warranty. I would trade a little performance for peace of mind any day...
 
Thank you very much for the information. I think I'll stick with what I have till Nehalem is out and get a GTX 280 for $99.99 after MIR :-D It seems like it woulden't be worth the effort or the money for the fps.
 
fghi said:
Thank you very much for the information. I think I'll stick with what I have till Nehalem is mature and affordable to mortals and get a GTX 280 for $99.99 after MIR :-D It seems like it woulden't be worth the effort or the money for the fps.
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Fixed.
 
cannondale06 said:
well if you were going to build a system anyway that wont make much difference.
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300 for CPU, 200+ for mobo, DDR3.. another 1-200? Maybe $600 for just those parts minimum isn't much to you.

Let's see what we can get right now. Sample: e8400 $150, decent p45 board $100-150, DDR2 $50-100. That's half the price of Nehalem at the the most. Makes quite a bit of difference afaik.

From the OP's statement:
fghi said:
Thank you very much for the information. I think I'll stick with what I have till Nehalem is out and get a GTX 280 for $99.99 after MIR :-D It seems like it woulden't be worth the effort or the money for the fps.
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we can assume he's gunning for more fps, hence the reason for even starting the thread. Now there's been arguments everywhere regarding i7 gaming performance but most seem to indicate it won't improve much or have any at all. Then again the OP didn't say anything about buying at launch so he could be talking about further down the road, y'know, when things are affordable. $600 for CPU ram and mobo isn't affordable esp. when you consider how we're seeing such low prices for everything not ddr3 related.
 
lowteckh said:
300 for CPU, 200+ for mobo, DDR3.. another 1-200? Maybe $600 for just those parts minimum isn't much to you.

Let's see what we can get right now. Sample: e8400 $150, decent p45 board $100-150, DDR2 $50-100. That's half the price of Nehalem at the the most. Makes quite a bit of difference afaik.

From the OP's statement:

we can assume he's gunning for more fps, hence the reason for even starting the thread. Now there's been arguments everywhere regarding i7 gaming performance but most seem to indicate it won't improve much or have any at all. Then again the OP didn't say anything about buying at launch so he could be talking about further down the road, y'know, when things are affordable. $600 for CPU ram and mobo isn't affordable esp. when you consider how we're seeing such low prices for everything not ddr3 related.
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okay now your comparing the price of a dual core cpu to a newly designed quad core with 8 threads. my point was that people spend as much money on current quad core setups that will deliver less overall performance than this entry level i7 setup. in other words it is "affordable to mortals" ;)
 
cannondale06 said:
okay now your comparing the price of a dual core cpu to a newly designed quad core with 8 threads. my point was that people spend as much money on current quad core setups that will deliver less overall performance than this entry level i7 setup. in other words it is "affordable to mortals" ;)
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Yea but my point is that the op seems to be leaning to just boost his framerates (8800GT + 9600GT are just $100 cards) and not spend a mortgage (the part of waiting for gtx280 to = $99.99) . If his intention was just that there'd be no reason to jump on i7 early. Of course that's something for another thread to tackle.
 
My 4850 works on a 300W with no 4 pin molex/pci-e power connectors (I use sata power>molex>pcie x2). So this with the proper converters your computer should do a 8800gt easily.
 
amps > wattage. he already has said his psu has 14A on the 12v which isn't enough.
 
I can see a couple people will be in the PSU forums with 'So my cheap ass PSU that people told me to replace died, please help me pick out a non suck one, cause I am retarded I also need a mobo, ram, cpu and gpu since the psu took that out as well'
 
why does everyone suggest the 8800gt for 110?
The egg has the 9800GT (the GTX in hiding one) for 125 and 10$ MIR so you pay 5 bucks more for hell of alot more card

Almost tempted to get one or 2 for myself, but my soul says no, make a house payment instead

stupid soul... If only there was a way to sell it...
 
Vaulter98c said:
why does everyone suggest the 8800gt for 110?
The egg has the 9800GT (the GTX in hiding one) for 125 and 10$ MIR so you pay 5 bucks more for hell of alot more card
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What do you mean by "GTX in hiding one"? As far as I've seen, the 9800GT performs roughly the same as the 8800GT. Considering that rebates aren't guaranteed, there's a chance that you'll end up paying $15 more for a card that's barely faster, if at all, than the 8800GT.
 
Vaulter98c said:
why does everyone suggest the 8800gt for 110?
The egg has the 9800GT (the GTX in hiding one) for 125 and 10$ MIR so you pay 5 bucks more for hell of alot more card

Almost tempted to get one or 2 for myself, but my soul says no, make a house payment instead

stupid soul... If only there was a way to sell it...
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The 9800 GT is the 8800 GT .... same card.
 
Vaulter98c said:
why does everyone suggest the 8800gt for 110?
The egg has the 9800GT (the GTX in hiding one) for 125 and 10$ MIR so you pay 5 bucks more for hell of alot more card

Almost tempted to get one or 2 for myself, but my soul says no, make a house payment instead

stupid soul... If only there was a way to sell it...
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well first off its NOT a gtx in hiding but a 8800gts 512mb instead. it has one 6 pin connector and 200mhz memory. also perhaps you should get your price numbers straight. its $150 plus $ 9 shipping and then a $25 rebate. the 8800gt is just $111 up front with free shipping.
 
no no no
the one that has all the shaders, not 112 or whatever, the full 128 or whatnot
I think Asus makes it, its really just a 9800GTX, same exact card but sold as a 9800GT to move inventory (they have to sell it as a 9800GT because they cant sell GTXs that cheap as per Nv)

EDIT
and the 8800GTS and the 9800GTX are pretty much the same card, like the 8800gt to the 9800gt , same number of shaders, Texture units, and whatnot
and my bad about the price, as of 2 days ago, the egg had it at 115 after rebate, if its changed since then, sorry
 
Vaulter98c said:
no no no
the one that has all the shaders, not 112 or whatever, the full 128 or whatnot
I think Asus makes it, its really just a 9800GTX, same exact card but sold as a 9800GT to move inventory (they have to sell it as a 9800GT because they cant sell GTXs that cheap as per Nv)
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its a 8800gts 512mb and please see my post above.
 
I just did a build with a Thermaltake 430w with 18amps on the 12. It wouldn't even power up to post.
You need to get a better power supply if you want to upgrade your videocard. End of discussion.

Edit: Full specs are AMD X2 +5000 stock clocks, Gigabyte board (don't recall which one), 2gb XMS2, and a 8800gs.

You could turn it on and the fans would start to spin up, but it would turn off before anything showed up on screen. When I removed the videocard, it would do just fine. We went and got a sparkle 500w with 36amps on the 12 and it powered up like a champ.
 
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