7970 pricing ....

well, there is in the cpu space, just not on the high end, but, how many people do you know that buy $1000 cpus :p

At least the prices are "reasonable" for the mid range stuff including motherboards, ram, hard drives, monitors, gpu, cases, power supplies, well you name it. AMD has a good chunk of this that they helped on doing, not to mention, a vast chunk of what we use now, DDR specs, X86 instruction sets, SSE implementations, etc. It really is a crysing shame that more people do not support them because "so and so is better" more based on no real facts, but more by what they have been told, but then again, those of us who know something, are a drop in the bucket compared to all of those whom dont care, dont know, or are misinformed :
 
well, there is in the cpu space, just not on the high end, but, how many people do you know that buy $1000 cpus :p

At least the prices are "reasonable" for the mid range stuff including motherboards, ram, hard drives, monitors, gpu, cases, power supplies, well you name it. AMD has a good chunk of this that they helped on doing, not to mention, a vast chunk of what we use now, DDR specs, X86 instruction sets, SSE implementations, etc. It really is a crysing shame that more people do not support them because "so and so is better" more based on no real facts, but more by what they have been told, but then again, those of us who know something, are a drop in the bucket compared to all of those whom dont care, dont know, or are misinformed :

not even $1,000...
if you're interested in a GREAT deal more performance than bulldozer, you only need spend a marginal amount to get a damn-quick intel chip. past that, AMD has nothing to offer.

contrast that to the graphics space, and AMD has an answer for any price point you could be interested in (and competitive at said points). that's what i'd like to see mirrored in the CPU universe.

as you eluded to, we might be seeing some serious hardware synergy with AMD systems in the future though - which is SUPER exciting! some of these new architectures may not hold much on their own, but together...? perhaps AMD has a card left to play.
 
well, this is something I heard about awhile back, AMD said they boiled something into the GCN arch, that bulldozer and beyond will be able to tap into, to make them, well, shine. Haven`t heard much on this yet, and it would be hard to see them actually do a Bulldozer testing of using a fullblown new AMD system and showing the overall difference compared to Phenom II gen.

II guess the thing they are trying to do is simple, huge compute performance, it may not show "gmaing" as others have pointed out, they do not make many games that leverage what they boil into the new parts, but "work" type stuff, encoding, decoding, 3d, things of that nature, is something AMD is putting a hell of alot of effort to as of late, we maybe getitng one hell of a wakeup call soon when we see what they are truly up to.

Bulldozer as it stands just like Radeon 7k, is a totaly different direction then anything AMD has done, we see it possibly as a fail, but maybe in the devs eyes, and thier own, it is a stepping stone, to something that WILL payoff, but takes a little while to get there, considering most of it is, quite a fudamentally major change in what we, and the world is used to.

:p but yeh, I know they are trying to do more on the "fusion" side, Bulldozer, 7k, am3+ all have something vastly important in that step. Also, just cause I remember back years ago, AMD was always the darling little child, but was never much of a threat, or competition, they changed that opinion in a heartbeat sort of speak, they seem to need direction, then when they find that direciton, it always has been "holy crap, we werent expecting that" ATI was never a major major player as much as they are now, AMD was never until they became one, maybe just taking time to get back to thier roots of, screw competing, lets show them what were made of :)
 
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