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that too.. they'd have to use the mobility edition gpus. ![Stick Out Tongue :p :p](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
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Blame Christmas for creating excess demand (thus depleting supply), as well as driving prices up. Financially, a terrible holiday for the hardware consumer.
I fully expect them to be back at MSRP levels by January.
my ASUS 5970 just arrived...
anyway, it seems 5970 is more rare than 5870 somehow (when just launch)
I guess it is true that ATI never expected 5970 to be such high demand
Or they just didn't make very many......
Think about it......there are two 5870 chips on each board, and the 5870 has been as hard to find as Elvis......
I'm sure Brent and Kyle are working on a CF review, but with the holidays here...
Give em time and improved drivers will be out by then also.![]()
I fully expect them to be back at MSRP levels by January.
I can't find a 5970 in stock anywhere. Anyone know when they'll be available again?
I thought AMD said stock on the 5800 series would improve greatly in the new year ? There may be an announcement at CES this week, but I would expect the 5970, 5870, and 5850 to be back at MSRP and in stock everywhere in February, maybe sooner.
I am thinking now is NOT the best time to get one. I was all gun ho to buy one in November, but the more I hear about nFinity and nVidia's will be offering their own multiple monitor tech on a single new card for the GTX-380 or what ever it will be called.
The new nVidia stuff is supposed to be on sale sometime in March supposedly, and rumors point to at least some form of early announcements of the tech much earlier than that, possibly hearing what these cards will offer sometime this month.
Just hate to see someone blow $600+on a brand new 5970, then come March nVidia has a card with the similar tech and is like 25% faster, and cheaper.
I am not against the 5970 in any way, I have the 5870 and love it, and would love to own a 5970 even more, but not for the current online prices of $700And then to blow that wad of cash on something that is out dated fairly soon, not in like 6 months times, but something just 6 +weeks out.
Not a chance in hell that the 380? will be cheaper than anything ATI has out.
+1 million, I guarantee the 5970 will be cheaper than Nvidia's top card at launch, and there will probably be 5890/5990s released to counter at the same or similar price points depending on performance of Nvidia's part. They have had significant time to get something ready.
No way. And I am not a fanboy, but think it would be crazy for nVidia to release their top end card at $700That is where the 5970 is at today. I would think nVidia's dual GPU card would go for like $549-$599, and their single GPU the GTX-380 will be like $425 or so.
And you know AMD will just slash their prices as soon as nVidia's stuff comes outI bet the 5850 will go down to $249, the 5870 to $349, and the 5970 to $499. This will happen once nVidia's new cards are actually on the market for sale. And then sometime in Spring AMD will have their refresh line due.
So nVidia has a tough road ahead, first they need to beat the performance of the 5800 series, and then do it close to the revised price point AMD will be selling them at in March. Second they need to have nFinity to compete with EYEFINITY. And third they will soon have more competition from AMD come late Spring in the refresh due
Moral of the story, do NOT buy a new VideoCard today, wait just another 6 to 8 weeks, and come March you can either A; buy a brand new generation nVidia card, or B; buy a discounted AMD 5800 series card
So nVidia has a tough road ahead, first they need to beat the performance of the 5800 series, and then do it close to the revised price point AMD will be selling them at in March. Second they need to have nFinity to compete with EYEFINITY. And third they will soon have more competition from AMD come late Spring in the refresh due
Moral of the story, do NOT buy a new VideoCard today, wait just another 6 to 8 weeks, and come March you can either A; buy a brand new generation nVidia card, or B; buy a discounted AMD 5800 series card
First of all, march is over 2 months from now. So it's going to be a signficant wait for the Nvidia cards.
Second of all, Nvidia has NEVER been known to sell their cards for less than ATI does. In addition because of the size of the gpu die, not to mention TSMC shortages, doing this would LOSE Nvidia money, and they are not going to sell their brand new products at a loss.
Third of all, you are being way optimistic on the price drops. Nvidia needs to beat ATI significantly in performance in the first place to warrant a price drop, and if Nvidia prices their products signficantly higher, then ATI doesn't need to cut prices if their prices are already lower than what Nvidia is selling their cards for.
Fourth -- where have you heard that Nvidia will definitely offer an Nfinity feature to compete with Eyefinity? I'd like to see it, but I doubt they would throw in this feature for free since they make a ridiculous profit from the overpriced Quadro line.
Fifth -- the MSRP of the 5970 remains at $599. It is the retailers that are marking it up to ~$700 because of supply shortages.
No way. And I am not a fanboy, but think it would be crazy for nVidia to release their top end card at $700That is where the 5970 is at today. I would think nVidia's dual GPU card would go for like $549-$599, and their single GPU the GTX-380 will be like $425 or so.