Slachtbeest
Limp Gawd
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- Jul 27, 2008
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XFX 5870 arrived this morning, and I wasted no time in putting it to the test. The results? Not what I expected, and confusing after seeing how this thing supposedly performs in every review.
It runs great... except for the fact that it's actually friggin' slower than my GTX 280, and sometimes by a rather large margin.
The following results were played exactly the same (weapons, explosions etc.) in exactly the same spots. I made sure to be dead-on with everything I did and where.
Note: multiple benches were done; these numbers are a general average of the results I've been getting for the last three hours, but I've gotten even worse than what I'm listing.
Rig: 5870 (stock), E8600 (stock), ASUS Rampage Forumula, 2GB RAM, XP 32, 1920x1200 res
Driver: (disc)
Left 4 Dead (No Mercy, 1st map, horde)
8xAA/16xAF; settings maxed
GTX 280
min: 39
max: 63
avg: 57.7
5870
min: 34
max: 62
avg: 50.7
Min: 5+ FPS slower
Avg: 7+ FPS slower
Fallout 3 (same fight/area; same weapons/explosions)
8xAA/16xAF, Ultra, settings maxed
GTX 280
min: 35
max: 62
avg: 54.7
5870
min: 28
max: 62
avg: 45.8
Min: 7 FPS slower
Avg: 10 FPS slower
FurMark:
Max Temp: 50C
FPS: min=27 max=51 avg=34
What's the deal here with all these numbers? These are not event the worst of the differences. Through benching multiple times, there were even bigger gaps between GPU's, upwards of 15 FPS.
The 5870 supposedly "trounced" the GTX 285 in every review done...?
It's supposed to be on-par, relatively, with a GTX 295?
There's nothing wrong with my system or how I'm running, it's just running slower at the same settings.
Only exception is Crysis: Warhead (Enthusiast, 2xAA/16xAF) which generally seemed to actually run faster/better/smoother; faster by about 4-10fps mix/max/avg (that was impressive) in some places, but relatively the same otherwise, with the exception of feeling a bit "smoother". So, that impressed me, at times.
Fan set to 60% for all games, only "loud" in terms of air, but actually very quite. Very surprising... and the temps and sound are the only advantage I'm seeing with the 5870, which makes no sense what-so-ever.
I did multiple benchmarks, and got some results that were even worse, with the FPS being even further apart, upwards of 10+ less in mix/max/avg in all games I've tested thus far.
Temps: excellent... astounding, really. 30C idle w/ fan @ 30%. Never hit over 48C with fan @ 60% under load! Definitely impressive.
Visuals: no noticable difference in anything, which was surprising, given ATi's usual color and AA/AF advantage over nVidia that I've always noticed over the years.
Performance: How the hell did this beat-out the GTX 285 in all the reviews done?
While sometimes hard to tell with the eye, sometimes the difference was visually noticable; numbers show the difference difference.
It's not my system... unless my system just happens to "like" nVidia better
Reinstalled my GTX 280, and results were back to normal, beating the 5870 at stock settings, sometimes by a large margin.
Disc driver, updated XP driver...
a) the driver on disc does run fine; b) no more than a max of 5FPS (and that's pushing it) will ever been seen with an updated driver, and that usually only happens in specific games.
I've pushed this thing all morning, benched countless times in the same games, same settings and the same exact methods.
Not here to bitch... here to legitimately figure out what the deal is with this thing, considering I'm getting results that are the polar opposite of every review out there. I was looking forward to perhaps moving over to/sticking with ATi's newest, but with the results I'm getting... genuinely looking for help/feedback here.
It runs great... except for the fact that it's actually friggin' slower than my GTX 280, and sometimes by a rather large margin.
The following results were played exactly the same (weapons, explosions etc.) in exactly the same spots. I made sure to be dead-on with everything I did and where.
Note: multiple benches were done; these numbers are a general average of the results I've been getting for the last three hours, but I've gotten even worse than what I'm listing.
Rig: 5870 (stock), E8600 (stock), ASUS Rampage Forumula, 2GB RAM, XP 32, 1920x1200 res
Driver: (disc)
Left 4 Dead (No Mercy, 1st map, horde)
8xAA/16xAF; settings maxed
GTX 280
min: 39
max: 63
avg: 57.7
5870
min: 34
max: 62
avg: 50.7
Min: 5+ FPS slower
Avg: 7+ FPS slower
Fallout 3 (same fight/area; same weapons/explosions)
8xAA/16xAF, Ultra, settings maxed
GTX 280
min: 35
max: 62
avg: 54.7
5870
min: 28
max: 62
avg: 45.8
Min: 7 FPS slower
Avg: 10 FPS slower
FurMark:
Max Temp: 50C
FPS: min=27 max=51 avg=34
What's the deal here with all these numbers? These are not event the worst of the differences. Through benching multiple times, there were even bigger gaps between GPU's, upwards of 15 FPS.
The 5870 supposedly "trounced" the GTX 285 in every review done...?
It's supposed to be on-par, relatively, with a GTX 295?
There's nothing wrong with my system or how I'm running, it's just running slower at the same settings.
Only exception is Crysis: Warhead (Enthusiast, 2xAA/16xAF) which generally seemed to actually run faster/better/smoother; faster by about 4-10fps mix/max/avg (that was impressive) in some places, but relatively the same otherwise, with the exception of feeling a bit "smoother". So, that impressed me, at times.
Fan set to 60% for all games, only "loud" in terms of air, but actually very quite. Very surprising... and the temps and sound are the only advantage I'm seeing with the 5870, which makes no sense what-so-ever.
I did multiple benchmarks, and got some results that were even worse, with the FPS being even further apart, upwards of 10+ less in mix/max/avg in all games I've tested thus far.
Temps: excellent... astounding, really. 30C idle w/ fan @ 30%. Never hit over 48C with fan @ 60% under load! Definitely impressive.
Visuals: no noticable difference in anything, which was surprising, given ATi's usual color and AA/AF advantage over nVidia that I've always noticed over the years.
Performance: How the hell did this beat-out the GTX 285 in all the reviews done?
While sometimes hard to tell with the eye, sometimes the difference was visually noticable; numbers show the difference difference.
It's not my system... unless my system just happens to "like" nVidia better
Reinstalled my GTX 280, and results were back to normal, beating the 5870 at stock settings, sometimes by a large margin.
Disc driver, updated XP driver...
a) the driver on disc does run fine; b) no more than a max of 5FPS (and that's pushing it) will ever been seen with an updated driver, and that usually only happens in specific games.
I've pushed this thing all morning, benched countless times in the same games, same settings and the same exact methods.
Not here to bitch... here to legitimately figure out what the deal is with this thing, considering I'm getting results that are the polar opposite of every review out there. I was looking forward to perhaps moving over to/sticking with ATi's newest, but with the results I'm getting... genuinely looking for help/feedback here.
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