5830s hit NewEgg!

Ooo sapphire bundled it with COD MW2 but it's so much more than the no game version and already tonnes more expensive than 5770. How many 5770s still come with Dirt 2 is beyond me now (can't remember which did and which didn't).
 
I bet with OC and overvolt it's worth it @ 200 price point...maybe a little less.;)
 
Dizzam, for that price why would anyone not simply save up a bit more for a 5850?
 
Seraphic said:
Look at the below review. 4890 bests the 5830 in all tests
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3750
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Reviews are literally all over the place, which is both a good thing and a bad thing for the 5830. Anand might have gotten an irregularly bad card, or [H]ard might have gotten a good one. Either way, it's not really looking like a consistent GPU which is something that should be valued.
 
Yeah, just checked that. Seems the photo makes it look smaller than it is. Oh well.

I do wonder when/if we'll get smaller 5800-series cards, though! An 8.5 inch 5870 or 5850 from an AIB would be great.
 
doesn't make sense that the 4890 is faster at all, the 5830 outclasses it in every spec except core clock speed. I'd figure the 30% more shaders would make up for the 6% more clock speed
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
doesn't make sense that the 4890 is faster at all, the 5830 outclasses it in every spec except core clock speed. I'd figure the 30% more shaders would make up for the 6% more clock speed
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Wonder how it would do if you overclocked to core to match the 4890.
 
Afti said:
Yeah, just checked that. Seems the photo makes it look smaller than it is. Oh well.

I do wonder when/if we'll get smaller 5800-series cards, though! An 8.5 inch 5870 or 5850 from an AIB would be great.
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Or buy a different case. ;) Hell, my case has a volume of less than 13 liters and fits a 5850 with room to spare, and could also fit a 5870. :p
 
I think AMD finally fucked up. :p
There might still be hope for nvidia if their prices are good.(btw im not a fanboy, just love low prices)
 
friend'scatdied said:
Or buy a different case. ;) Hell, my case has a volume of less than 13 liters and fits a 5850 with room to spare, and could also fit a 5870. :p
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Always viable, but I'm cheap!

Anyway, if worst came to worst, I could pull out the lower drive cage and rig something up higher in the case.
 
HD5830 is a FLOP until prices drop below $200.

Hell I got my HD5850 for $250 shipped shortly after launch.
 
96redformula said:
HD5830 is a FLOP until prices drop below $200.

Hell I got my HD5850 for $250 shipped shortly after launch.
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Good for you. You may have noticed that the prices skyrocketed and they are currently going for 300-340.00 dollars.

The price difference between the cards is closer to the 5770 than the 5850. Yes I think the price is too high; but I think that about all the 5000 series cards. You can thank Nvidia for that.
 
96redformula said:
HD5830 is a FLOP until prices drop below $200.

Hell I got my HD5850 for $250 shipped shortly after launch.
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Agreed. I had one in my cart for $259 and didn't buy because I figured the prices would come down after launch :rolleyes:. Oh well...I guess the 4870 will have to keep me going for now.
 
Udgnim said:
problem is that it can always be argued that the 4890 can also be overclocked.
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problem is 4890 can't do eyefinity, can't do dx11 or any of the neifty neato special effects, and it is bigger power hog.

Is that worth the extra money? ATi seems to think so and that will be for the individual consumer themselves to decide.
 
Ryland said:
The XFX website says it is 9.5 inches.
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Something's fishy about this!

Compare it to the 5770 photo with that cooler...

The PCIe connector can be assumed to be the same size, obviously.

The area beyond it on the 5830 is SHORTER than on the 5770, if you look at the photos! Looking at the caps, I'd say you could probably fit ~5 solid capacitors on it.

I think that XFX may have copied and pasted 5850 info, altering as needed!
 
Fail said:
the 5830 can't do eyeinfinity either, sorry bro
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considering my 5770 can do eyefinity at 3600 x 1600 with the goodies on I am more inclined to believe that yes, it can do eyefinity.
 
Yeah yeah laugh it up while you can. Not many know of the unbridled game changer that is Solitaire on Eyefinity.
 
but . . . but . . . . you need dual 5970's to run Solitare at 300 fps!!!
 
Fail said:
playing what, Tetris? Half Life 1? Solitaire?
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TF2, Dragon Age, LoTRO, Torchlight, L4D2, and AvP all play just fine on the system. Haven't tried Solitaire but I bet it runs just as good though.
 
Fail said:
amazingly, none of those games actually tax your video card
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But you said the 5770 couldn't do it and it does. It plays the games I play and it plays them well; hence why I bought it.

Stalker CoP and BF2 BC played alright but too many FPS dips, so I may be grabbing a 5870 when the new ones are released in a couple weeks. So if my 5770 was doing well on these titles, then it stands to reason the 5830 can also run them and give better performance unlike your claims.
 
I like how you missed the whole point of what I was saying, sure your 5770 can do eyeinfinity with games that do NOT tax your video card
 
Fail said:
I like how you missed the whole point of what I was saying, sure your 5770 can do eyeinfinity with games that do NOT tax your video card
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I didn't miss any point, you said it couldn't do it but it does, even before you knew what games I played. There are lots of videos of driving and flight sims on you tube running just fine on one

The new AvP game is pretty taxing so I don't know what your talking about there. LoTRO is pretty taxing with everything on, Bioshock isn't a slouch either so honestly I don't know where your getting your info from, but the 5770 runs it just fine in eyefinity. Sure it isn't the ideal solution, but grabbing a second one is a cheaper solution then grabbing a 5850 or higher if you really need to turn everything on in every game available, except crysis or Stalker with mod packs.
 
Fail said:
I like how you missed the whole point of what I was saying, sure your 5770 can do eyeinfinity with games that do NOT tax your video card
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Sometimes the best course of action is to just stop talking. All you're doing is splitting hairs.
 
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Climber said:
I didn't miss any point, you said it couldn't do it but it does, even before you knew what games I played. There are lots of videos of driving and flight sims on you tube running just fine on one

The new AvP game is pretty taxing so I don't know what your talking about there. LoTRO is pretty taxing with everything on, Bioshock isn't a slouch either so honestly I don't know where your getting your info from, but the 5770 runs it just fine in eyefinity. Sure it isn't the ideal solution, but grabbing a second one is a cheaper solution then grabbing a 5850 or higher if you really need to turn everything on in every game available, except crysis or Stalker with mod packs.
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The problem is the size of monitors. Investing in 3 monitors is pricey. You can get 3 24 inch 1920x1080 monitors for $200 or less a piece http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254040

So your looking at $600 for the monitors. With a 5770 your looking at being limited to lower res or your going to have to disable alot of features

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/01/05/amds_ati_radeon_eyefinity_performance_review/3

Now 2 5770s 1 gig will cost you $320 ish give or take. You can get a 5850 for $310.

Now the 5770s in crossfire should perform better in games with good crossfire support. However now your tapped out and would have to dump two cards to move up .

The investment in the 5850 is much better because you get good performance now at 1080p and you can add a card when they get cheaper and get 5970ish performance.

In fact a 5870 will offer better performance than the 5770 crossfired in a single card in most games using less power and producing less heat. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658&p=5

both a 5850 and 5870 give you upgrade paths to dual cards that you loose wit ha dual 5770. There are dx 11 and dx 10 games coming out this year , metro is dx 11 and just caus 2 is dx 10/.1 and above only. the 5770s are just going to get crushed with future games just like the 5830 will.

The 5850 consistantly gives the same performance as the 5850 and the 5870s will give performance greater than it.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3679&p=8
 
Fail said:
I like how you missed the whole point of what I was saying, sure your 5770 can do eyeinfinity with games that do NOT tax your video card
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You're really reaching here.

Since when is Eyefinity exclusive to taxing games? And AvP is a great looking game with DX11, so yeah, stop talking.
 
Alanstein said:
Reviews are literally all over the place, which is both a good thing and a bad thing for the 5830. Anand might have gotten an irregularly bad card, or [H]ard might have gotten a good one. Either way, it's not really looking like a consistent GPU which is something that should be valued.
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[H] is probably the most critical website on the net when it comes to GPU testing and reviewing, and AMD/Nvidia know it. I am not an expert on the inner technology and workings when it comes to graphics cards, but if its possible for one card with the same specs to perform better or worse than another card then it wouldnt surprise me if ATI and Nvidia saved their best performing cards for Kyle and Brent.
 
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