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I just saw these pop up today, this set adds smooth motion for the 4000 series which is pretty cool. Maybe eventually we might see MFG for the 4000 series as well somewhere down the road.
 
I tried these new drivers out in Stalker 2 which is a demanding game, previously I was getting 125-150fps, now I'm over 200fps for a average with smooth motion on.
 
killroy67 said:
I tried these new drivers out in Stalker 2 which is a demanding game, previously I was getting 125-150fps, now I'm over 200fps for a average with smooth motion on.
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On the whole, they're fine, performance and stability-wise. Smooth motion for me is rather flakey, however, seems to force LLM to Ultra and makes the afterburner UI flicker like mad. Also causes some games to either crash or slow down.
 
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killroy67 said:
I just saw these pop up today, this set adds smooth motion for the 4000 series which is pretty cool. Maybe eventually we might see MFG for the 4000 series as well somewhere down the road.
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I tried MFG x3 and x4 on my 5090. The extra artifacts while panning the camera around distracted me from the experience in both Expedition 33 and The Talos Principle Reawakened. So, I turned it back to x2 just like I was using with the 4090.

TLDR - MFG is so much of a gimmick that reduces image quality enough than an old guy with glasses sitting 8 feet away from the 4K TV has to turn it off.
 
arestavo said:
I tried MFG x3 and x4 on my 5090. The extra artifacts while panning the camera around distracted me from the experience in both Expedition 33 and The Talos Principle Reawakened. So, I turned it back to x2 just like I was using with the 4090.

TLDR - MFG is so much of a gimmick that reduces image quality enough than an old guy with glasses sitting 8 feet away from the 4K TV has to turn it off.
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Is that new with these drivers or just something you personally notice? I've had not issues with 3x in Diablo IV or 4x in Doom TDA, but maybe I am not sensitive to it, it feels and looks great to me.

killroy67 said:
Maybe eventually we might see MFG for the 4000 series as well somewhere down the road.
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I doubt it. Isn't the issue ultimately related to the hardware and the ability to time the additional frames properly? Plus, with prices coming down, no way nvidia will cut into possible sells with a feature that is exclusive to the 5xxx series.
 
How do you uninstall and install old and new drivers? Do you install the entire package or just part of it?
Do you use DDU every time? I ask because Nvidia drivers come out very often, for AMD cards this is not the case at all, they don't come out that often (at least not for my old RX 480)
 
Strange bird said:
How do you uninstall and install old and new drivers? Do you install the entire package or just part of it?
Do you use DDU every time? I ask because Nvidia drivers come out very often, for AMD cards this is not the case at all, they don't come out that often (at least not for my old RX 480)
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I use the NVIDIA App to deploy the drivers - install, reboot. The reboot is optional but I'm a firm believer in it.

If you're not into the whole NVIDIA App thing (many are - it used to be called the "GeForce Experience") - you can download the drivers manually and install over, too - no need for uninstall, install, reboot or uninstall, DDU, install, reboot or stuff like that.

I have a 9070 XT too and similarly just use AMD's Catalyst software.
 
sk3tch said:
I use the NVIDIA App to deploy the drivers - install, reboot. The reboot is optional but I'm a firm believer in it.

If you're not into the whole NVIDIA App thing (many are - it used to be called the "GeForce Experience") - you can download the drivers manually and install over, too - no need for uninstall, install, reboot or uninstall, DDU, install, reboot or stuff like that.

I have a 9070 XT too and similarly just use AMD's Catalyst software.
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That GeForce Experience comes with drivers, I have to mark it for it to be installed, I'll have to try that, I'm tired of constantly deleting old ones and installing new ones. And I install new ones not for games but for repairs and the like. I constantly have a problem that the power options don't turn off the display, it turns it off and then turns it back on but only the lighting.
 
Strange bird said:
That GeForce Experience comes with drivers, I have to mark it for it to be installed, I'll have to try that, I'm tired of constantly deleting old ones and installing new ones. And I install new ones not for games but for repairs and the like. I constantly have a problem that the power options don't turn off the display, it turns it off and then turns it back on but only the lighting.
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Yes. GeForce App is the new GeForce Experience. The GeForce App will be very much like AMD's Catalyst in that it will prompt you when there's new drivers - you can then download them and install them at your choosing. Or, as I said - you can go here: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/ - and download the package manually (which will ask you to optionally install the NVIDIA App).
 
III_Slyflyer_III said:
Is that new with these drivers or just something you personally notice? I've had not issues with 3x in Diablo IV or 4x in Doom TDA, but maybe I am not sensitive to it, it feels and looks great to me.


I doubt it. Isn't the issue ultimately related to the hardware and the ability to time the additional frames properly? Plus, with prices coming down, no way nvidia will cut into possible sells with a feature that is exclusive to the 5xxx series.
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It's something that I noticed the moment that I tried it out with the 5090 with the prior two drivers when playing Expedition 33 and The Talos Principle Reawakened. Simply panning the camera left or right showed... sizzling? Texture flickering? Poor image quality that went away when I swapped back to x2.

Native x3 and x4 MFG mind you, not the smooth motion frame stuff or the lossless scaling version. I assume SMF is going to be worse for IQ and latency from looking at reviews.
 
III_Slyflyer_III said:
I doubt it. Isn't the issue ultimately related to the hardware and the ability to time the additional frames properly? Plus, with prices coming down, no way nvidia will cut into possible sells with a feature that is exclusive to the 5xxx series.
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I don't know, you never know with Nvidia, smooth motion was at first a exclusive to the 5 series, yet now it's available for the 4 series. So really MFG is the only thing left that the 4 series does not have, it wouldn't surprise me if it does come eventually, who knows.
 
killroy67 said:
I don't know, you never know with Nvidia, smooth motion was at first a exclusive to the 5 series, yet now it's available for the 4 series. So really MFG is the only thing left that the 4 series does not have, it wouldn't surprise me if it does come eventually, who knows.
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I always thought this was the reason why it will never come to the 4xxx series: "The 40 series lacks specific hardware features like Flip Metering, which is required for optimal performance with MFG." Similar to how FG "could" work on the 3xxx series, except for the fact it was claimed the OFA for that series was not quite fast enough.
 
III_Slyflyer_III said:
Is that new with these drivers or just something you personally notice? I've had not issues with 3x in Diablo IV or 4x in Doom TDA, but maybe I am not sensitive to it, it feels and looks great to me.


I doubt it. Isn't the issue ultimately related to the hardware and the ability to time the additional frames properly? Plus, with prices coming down, no way nvidia will cut into possible sells with a feature that is exclusive to the 5xxx series.
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It might depend on the game. I can definitely tell its on, but usually I'm moving around too much to care. It's also much more noticeable with motion blur turned off in my experience. In Cyberpunk 2077 I don't really notice it but in the First Descendant I do. Then again, the performance improvement in the larger more open zone they added is kind of worth the trade off for me.
 
unrecoverable BSOD upon installation again, lower performance results
 
Strange bird said:
How do you uninstall and install old and new drivers? Do you install the entire package or just part of it?
Do you use DDU every time? I ask because Nvidia drivers come out very often, for AMD cards this is not the case at all, they don't come out that often (at least not for my old RX 480)
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haven't used DDU in 10 yrs. update via nvidia app, reboot if it calls for it, otherwise carry on.

No issues on 5090 post update.
 
These are better drivers than the last set no Crashes in Wuchang Fallen Feathers played 3-4 hours and Benchmark for Superposition was slightly higher.
 
III_Slyflyer_III said:
I always thought this was the reason why it will never come to the 4xxx series: "The 40 series lacks specific hardware features like Flip Metering, which is required for optimal performance with MFG." Similar to how FG "could" work on the 3xxx series, except for the fact it was claimed the OFA for that series was not quite fast enough.
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That may very well be the case, I don't know if having MFG is a big deal though, I have read about a number of people complaining about it introducing more artifacts at the 3x and 4x settings. As far as smooth motion feature coming to the 4 series, I used it on Stalker 2 and so far I really like the results, as I said in a previous post went from 125-150fps to over 200fps, that is a significant jump for my 4080.
 
KickAssCop said:
Does smooth motion work with all games?
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It's meant for use with games that don't natively support Frame Generation, I think. It's been a bit hit 'n miss for me, but I'm on a 4080 so not the original intended audience :)
 
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I installed these, seems to work fine but I see no option for "global DLSS overrides" in the settings.
 
I was having thermal issues with the last two drivers that seem to be fixed this round (3060 notebook). Funny, I'm not even that old and it seems like a long time ago when drivers reliably did more good than bad with each release. They really don't make em like they used to.
 
MavericK said:
I installed these, seems to work fine but I see no option for "global DLSS overrides" in the settings.
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I have the new Nvidia beta version 11.0.5.238, and I noticed of course the global overrides, but also for the two games I currently have installed it says "this system doesn't support optimization" which wasn't there with the previous release. Not really important, i was just curious.
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Also it mentions "legacy settings" which I was wondering do these settings matter anymore?

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Has anyone seen their OC diminish with this driver? Used to be able to do +301MHz core on my 5090 SUPRIM and now I had to dial it back to +203. I had dozens and dozens of hours of rock stable Fortnite to attest to it.
 
sk3tch said:
Has anyone seen their OC diminish with this driver? Used to be able to do +301MHz core on my 5090 SUPRIM and now I had to dial it back to +203. I had dozens and dozens of hours of rock stable Fortnite to attest to it.
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Negative, same OC profiles for each game I play (some required less of an offset than others to stay below 3.25Ghz for me).
 
Playing one game doesn’t guarantee an overclock stability. I recently thought I had my daily down since it had been working on every damn thing for past month or so. But fired up Forza Motorsport and boom crashes. Had to tone it down for it to run properly. That is just the thing with undervolt or overclock. You are only as stable as the game you never tried with those clocks. :)
 
KickAssCop said:
Playing one game doesn’t guarantee an overclock stability. I recently thought I had my daily down since it had been working on every damn thing for past month or so. But fired up Forza Motorsport and boom crashes. Had to tone it down for it to run properly. That is just the thing with undervolt or overclock. You are only as stable as the game you never tried with those clocks. :)
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Totally hear you but I've run tons of cards through Fortnite and it does indeed test them like no other (like passes the 3DMark gamut, etc.)...but you're right, of course!
 
My picks to check card OC/UV stability are:

Port Royal
Heaven
Superposition
Stalker 2
Cyberpunk 2077
Horizon Zero Dawn
Last of Us Part 2 (try sustained gameplay of 30 mins or so)
And recently added Forza Motorsport

If it passes all of the above then most likely your card is not facing internal errors while working 24/7.
 
KickAssCop said:
My picks to check card OC/UV stability are:

Port Royal
Heaven
Superposition
Stalker 2
Cyberpunk 2077
Horizon Zero Dawn
Last of Us Part 2 (try sustained gameplay of 30 mins or so)
And recently added Forza Motorsport

If it passes all of the above then most likely your card is not facing internal errors while working 24/7.
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Not necessary if I play one game - ain’t nobody got time for that!

Only the drivers changed so it’s interesting (well I plugged in my front fans into the mobo’s ARGB). I don’t need the 100 MHz. Just strange.
 
Driver change can indeed cause variation in OC ability. But it is not just about playing one game. The card might be erroring out but might not be visible on screen. Not sure if that can cause long term damage to core but I do know if memory keeps on erroring out it can have some impact on its longevity.
 
KickAssCop said:
Driver change can indeed cause variation in OC ability. But it is not just about playing one game. The card might be erroring out but might not be visible on screen. Not sure if that can cause long term damage to core but I do know if memory keeps on erroring out it can have some impact on its longevity.
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I have seen ECC hitting the VRAM (mostly when tuning 5080s). It's definitely not that.
 
KickAssCop said:
Driver change can indeed cause variation in OC ability. But it is not just about playing one game. The card might be erroring out but might not be visible on screen. Not sure if that can cause long term damage to core but I do know if memory keeps on erroring out it can have some impact on its longevity.
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Errors are not going to degrade or damage memory chips or the gpu itself. At worst ur game crashes or windows explorer crashes. The only thing that can damage those parts are voltage and heat. Unless you have an XOC vBios, nothing you can set will damage the video card. Its voltage and power limits are vBios clamped.
 
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