5700XT driver situation August 2020

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So I have a chance to pick up a 5700XT sapphire locally for $315, going to do it to hold me over until 3xxx nvidia cards hit.


However, I have heard that lots of the early problems with the Navi cards is based on the drivers, not the card itself.





So how's everyone's experience with the latest AMD drivers and 5xxx series cards? Anything I need to know beforehand?

I've not used an AMD card in forever, so unfamiliar with driver quirks or weird behaviors.


System: 10900K, windows 10.


Thanks.
 

MrC4

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Running a 5700xt since January. Early driver bug caused my VR to go double vision for a few weeks, then update came out and smooth sailing since.

$315 is a great price for that card!
 

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Running a 5700xt since January. Early driver bug caused my VR to go double vision for a few weeks, then update came out and smooth sailing since.

$315 is a great price for that card!

With Windows 2004 hardware scheduling enabled or disabled?
 

HockeyJon

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Rumours have it that the new Nvidia cards are going to be launching in a month or two. Why would you want to upgrade now?
 

redhaze1er

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selling the 2080ti and using the 5700XT to wait for new nvidia cards or amd's next card
Pretty much what I did. I regret getting a 5700xt, wish I just spent the extra $100 or so for a 2070 super or even a 2060 super to hold me over till the nvidia 3000s cards come out. I made up my mind and going to get 3070 or up and will not even look at amd this time around. The amount of black screens and random hard crashes the 5700xt has given me was not worth it at all.
 

crazycrave

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Pretty much what I did. I regret getting a 5700xt, wish I just spent the extra $100 or so for a 2070 super or even a 2060 super to hold me over till the nvidia 3000s cards come out. I made up my mind and going to get 3070 or up and will not even look at amd this time around. The amount of black screens and random hard crashes the 5700xt has given me was not worth it at all.
Such hate .. My video is a flashed ref RX 5700 over a year old and still plays smooth .
 

Eshelmen

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So odd that a lot of us issues, and a lot of us don't.

Had issues back in Jan, researched, updated and rolled back drivers like no tomorrow. Spent more time trying to fix the black screen of death, during gaming and a bunch of other weird crap. Ended up exchanging for another and saw same issue.

Returned: went 2070super after. No issues since.

Except what's odd, GTA V no longer launches for me. I've uninstalled a ton, did all these fixes, moved to different drives and nada.
 

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Pretty much what I did. I regret getting a 5700xt, wish I just spent the extra $100 or so for a 2070 super or even a 2060 super to hold me over till the nvidia 3000s cards come out. I made up my mind and going to get 3070 or up and will not even look at amd this time around. The amount of black screens and random hard crashes the 5700xt has given me was not worth it at all.
even with stock settings?

did you ever figure out/solve the problem?
 

pentiumiiislota

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Having issues with the radeon software crashing during overwatch. Also having random black screens/hard lock ups without after burner running.

Also having issues where the software wont show the program. It just doesn't seem to launch, it hangs as a black box with dual monitors.

It seems like the card might be getting to hot and the fans don't ramp up. Not really sure at this point.
 

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0 issues here. I am unsure why some people have issues, may be is just coming form nvidia and doing a clean install is better. But I have had 0 black screen and 0 crashes for last 3 months I have had the card. I am on 43 inch wide screen with freesync. No issues, nada. Never once I have had black screen issues browsing or gaming.
 

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even with stock settings?

did you ever figure out/solve the problem?
Nope problem still exist and get this if I install the adrenaline software the problems get worse. I have no problem with amd it's just that the 5000s gpu have some problems that haven't been completely fixed yet.
 

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0 issues here. I am unsure why some people have issues, may be is just coming form nvidia and doing a clean install is better. But I have had 0 black screen and 0 crashes for last 3 months I have had the card. I am on 43 inch wide screen with freesync. No issues, nada. Never once I have had black screen issues browsing or gaming.
yeah i dunno. i think at this point it has to be something fk'd up in windows or some specific hardware configuration because i'm in the same boat, haven't had any issues with the drivers through vega and navi and on top of that i still have the nvidia drivers installed from when i was swapping between my 5700XT and 1070 to test stuff. ended up giving the 5700XT to a family friends kid and went back to my vega 56 because i just don't game enough anymore to really use it. the only annoying thing i had with both my cards though is they are super effing picky about display port cables.. had to go through 5 or 6 of them(thankfully amazon DP cables are dirt cheap) to finally get a set that didn't cause my monitors to diconnect/reboot or random flickering.. all the cables both the vega 56 and 5700XT wouldn't work with work just fine on my 1070 though.
 

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Nope problem still exist and get this if I install the adrenaline software the problems get worse. I have no problem with amd it's just that the 5000s gpu have some problems that haven't been completely fixed yet.
You can try to connect 2x PCIe power cables to the card instead of 1.
 

AVATARAT

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I have 2 separate pcie power cables going to the card from an over kill 1000w psu.
Did you try to undervolt the video card if you use it at stock ?
Or less clock on GPU/VRAM if you clock it.
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Sometimes, you may see a black screen as a result of Windows 10 losing its connection with the display. You can use the Windows key + Ctrl + Shift + B keyboard shortcut to restart the video driver and refresh the link to the monitor.
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It may be unstable CPU/RAM clock, so one step more voltage can fix it too.
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Or you can look in event viewer what fail after the black screen.
 

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Did you try to undervolt the video card if you use it at stock ?
Or less clock on GPU/VRAM if you clock it.
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Sometimes, you may see a black screen as a result of Windows 10 losing its connection with the display. You can use the Windows key + Ctrl + Shift + B keyboard shortcut to restart the video driver and refresh the link to the monitor.
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It may be unstable CPU/RAM clock, so one step more voltage can fix it too.
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Or you can look in event viewer what fail after the black screen.
I have had a few people I recommended making sure their ram is stable and bamn when they actually checked it was unstable and bluescreening during games. I think when people load games and the ram is unstable it blue screens and it is automatically assumed its the video card. One of the reasons I check if my ram is stable.
 

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According to data from hardware unboxed it seems current drivers seem to have the same percentage of issues as nvidia cards. Prior to february there were notably more issues.
 

redhaze1er

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I never had one blue screen and the problems I have were consistent on 2 different machine, the ones in my signature. It's always been a random black screen and yes I tried the ctrl+shift+b with no avail. Also I always use DDU and did clean driver installs. After awhile I began to think maybe it just might be me and my specific card but the same things is happening to my friends 5700xt which was a different model card and when i researched online other people were having the same problems with different model cards as well which led me to believe that it is indeed a driver issue.

I think it's a similar issue to how some ram chipset/manufacturers won't run/work at it's max speed on amd ryzen mobo chipsets but work just fine on intel mobo chipsets. Maybe specific hardware combination, windows settings, etc., just hasn't been validated by amd it and the drivers just run into a brick wall every so often.
 

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Well , I have built another AMD system with in the last mouth using a RX 5500 XT 8 Gb card and it's been great so far as to be watching You Tube movies with it and playing games like this .

 

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So I have a chance to pick up a 5700XT sapphire locally for $315, going to do it to hold me over until 3xxx nvidia cards hit.


However, I have heard that lots of the early problems with the Navi cards is based on the drivers, not the card itself.





So how's everyone's experience with the latest AMD drivers and 5xxx series cards? Anything I need to know beforehand?

I've not used an AMD card in forever, so unfamiliar with driver quirks or weird behaviors.


System: 10900K, windows 10.


Thanks.
I have a 5600xt and everything I throw at it, except MSI afterburner fan control, is so solid its actually more stable than most any other gpu I have owned and I have owned A LOT of gpus.

And to be more than honest, im going to use the non scientific term of smoothness, but this 5600xt feels significantly more fluid and smooth in games than nVidia. I had a 2080ti and while it puts out disgustingly high FPS and has gobs of power the AMD feels smoother in literally all games.

Isnt that shit weird?

While im stoked about the upcoming 3090 rtx, im actually going to wait and see what BigNavi can do. Ill gladly give up absolute peak performance for extra smoothness between each frame being rendered.
 

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I noticed that years ago.

I was doing tests with an HD 5570 (which was not even a high end card at the time) and comparing it to a GTX 470, and I found the AMD card was smoother, even with a lower fps.

This was done on the same system, only change was the graphics card (and I swapped a few times to be sure). And the colors looked nicer on AMD.

Not sure if that is still the case, with FreeSync/G-Sync I would say they are comparable, but I haven't done a test like that on the same system since then.
 

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I noticed that years ago.

I was doing tests with an HD 5570 (which was not even a high end card at the time) and comparing it to a GTX 470, and I found the AMD card was smoother, even with a lower fps.

This was done on the same system, only change was the graphics card (and I swapped a few times to be sure). And the colors looked nicer on AMD.

Not sure if that is still the case, with FreeSync/G-Sync I would say they are comparable, but I haven't done a test like that on the same system since then.
Even with gsync vs freesync etc.... AMD is a smoother more refined feeling. I think it has to do with what AMD does between frames. Theres some magic to how its drawing and presenting the next frame. I have no idea how to quantify or qualitatively analyze why. So I just accept that imo AMD is smoother. Now that ive sold my 2080ti and im uaing my backup 5600xt, Im going to wait on BigNavi 16GB even if its slower than 3090 and faster than 2080ti. Im kinda hooked on the refined high end feeling of games on the Navi gpu I own now.
 

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I have no issues with my 5700xt. Love it! Paired with a Freesync monitor the experience is nearly as enjoyable as my 2080 ti :p
 

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i have 2 installed in different systems. One media box with a 2500k and it had black screens and lockups daily. On the otherhand, i have one in a box with a 3600 ryzen and it's never had a hiccup. 2 contrasting setups that couldn't be any more difference in results.
 

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I have a 5600xt and everything I throw at it, except MSI afterburner fan control, is so solid its actually more stable than most any other gpu I have owned and I have owned A LOT of gpus.

And to be more than honest, im going to use the non scientific term of smoothness, but this 5600xt feels significantly more fluid and smooth in games than nVidia. I had a 2080ti and while it puts out disgustingly high FPS and has gobs of power the AMD feels smoother in literally all games.

Isnt that shit weird?

While im stoked about the upcoming 3090 rtx, im actually going to wait and see what BigNavi can do. Ill gladly give up absolute peak performance for extra smoothness between each frame being rendered.
fan control still broken for amd cards?
 

CEO_OF_CBT

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I noticed that years ago.

I was doing tests with an HD 5570 (which was not even a high end card at the time) and comparing it to a GTX 470, and I found the AMD card was smoother, even with a lower fps.

This was done on the same system, only change was the graphics card (and I swapped a few times to be sure). And the colors looked nicer on AMD.

Not sure if that is still the case, with FreeSync/G-Sync I would say they are comparable, but I haven't done a test like that on the same system since then.
interesting, because I have a PG279Q as my main monitor which has g-sync module inside of it

maybe that's the issue that some people are having? using navi with a hardware g-sync monitor
 

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I think it's just placebo tbh.

I just built a 2060 and 3600 system this weekend for someone and while testing games on it I was like, "wow this feels fantastic, is this better than my wc 5700xt and 3900x?". Went back to back and they felt the same, although the 5700xt and 3900x system was pumping out about ~15-20% higher frame rates. If something feels really good in the present it will likely "feel better" than what you've done previously.
 
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