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5080/5090 initial stock ‘extremely scarce’

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“The market launch of Nvidia's new graphics cards is imminent and as I learned from well-informed circles of dealers, the available quota of graphics cards will be extremely scarce! This applies in particular to the RTX 5090.”

It’s ‘just’ a rumour, but I don’t see how anyone would be surprised by this if it turns out to be true.

Just… don’t sell your 4090. lol
 
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Gonna get my F5'ing finger ready and will hope for the best...
 
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Looking at the European price, yes one would imagine... they did not plan really big volumes.

But even a massive launch for that die-size class of card, a giant 200k 5090 available the first 2 weeks at launch, less than 30k going to all of Europe DIU market seem possible (even being a bit generous, less than 25k do not see why not), 7 country with more than 40m getting only 18,000 cards less than 3,000 per in average only 7k-12k for the 40 others countries.

That level of gpu is just not supposed to be popular like it is.
 
Confirmed by Hardware Unboxed also stating in their video that stock looks to be scarce. MLID for once actually might have had a real leak stating stock is scarce. So all signs point to a paper launch of 5090. So far a product that is 30% faster for 25%+ more money and 30% more power consumption that is now a paper launch. High end gaming is just dead to AI now. 4090 is the new 1080ti and I will laugh at the people who sold their 4090 to get a 5090 before getting their 5090 in hand.
 
People would easily spin a 200k first month 5090 with 100k going to DIU a paper launch too... So as usual we will never know, people will use the little they know like how long to sell out, how many the guy in that microcenter had and go from there, with no notion of how many worldwide GPU there is usually and very little on how many there was for that one. Try to count the 5090D that were available between jan 30 and February 28.... How many AI people, Data and Render farm achieve to get their hands on, who will know just even a little bit ? will not stop content creator at all...
 
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Well sure, what are the odds that nearly all the 5090's and 80's will be going to China? That software lock on power delivery and faux-AI computation can probably even come pre-jailbroken just like how accommodating Chevy dealers could provide a Corvette or Camaro with the skip-shift controlling fuse already pulled.
 
lee0539 said:
Confirmed by Hardware Unboxed also stating in their video that stock looks to be scarce. MLID for once actually might have had a real leak stating stock is scarce. So all signs point to a paper launch of 5090. So far a product that is 30% faster for 25%+ more money and 30% more power consumption that is now a paper launch. High end gaming is just dead to AI now. 4090 is the new 1080ti and I will laugh at the people who sold their 4090 to get a 5090 before getting their 5090 in hand.
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Nvidia claims they can't really squeeze much more raster performance so that's why they are relying on AI to do the heavy lifting, but part of me feels like they could but they just don't feel the need to due to AMD's lack of competition. Let's say hypothetically that UDNA (the successor to RDNA) marks AMD's return to high end gaming GPUs and the flagship UDNA card has twice the raster performance of the 9070XT much like how the 6900XT had roughly twice the raster performance of the 5700XT, I bet in that scenario Nvidia would now magically find a way to up the raster performance of their next gen GPU by a huge margin when they previously claimed they can't really do so anymore. They would never ever let AMD win the raster crown because then AMD could just use the marketing that they have the faster card in terms of "real frames" not fake frames.
 
MistaSparkul said:
Nvidia claims they can't really squeeze much more raster performance so that's why they are relying on AI to do the heavy lifting, but part of me feels like they could but they just don't feel the need to due to AMD's lack of competition. Let's say hypothetically that UDNA (the successor to RDNA) marks AMD's return to high end gaming GPUs and the flagship UDNA card has twice the raster performance of the 9070XT much like how the 6900XT had roughly twice the raster performance of the 5700XT, I bet in that scenario Nvidia would now magically find a way to up the raster performance of their next gen GPU by a huge margin when they previously claimed they can't really do so anymore. They would never ever let AMD win the raster crown because then AMD could just use the marketing that they have the faster card in terms of "real frames" not fake frames.
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Magical Maxwell-like improvements to architecture that cause performance to massively go up and power consumption down do not happen all that often.
Maybe Nvidia has some tricks they saved for later time but it might be that these chips are already optimized as much as one could optimize such tech.

That said I would expect Nvidia to be more focused on raster performance if they were facing different situation.
Now they focus on AI and RT so what gives them money and advantage.
More RT in games in landscape they have best RT means they have best products.

And personally I rather want games with graphics like Cyberpunk 2077 with Path Tracing than without but more polygons.
Imho there is not enough focus on RT. They should throw more RT cores in there to really make using RT as cheaper option to do lighting 😅
 
This is part of the reason why I'm planning my new complete build for Memorial Day week this year. I do hope there is 5080s in stock with hopefully some models on sale too. Same goes for AMD's 9800X3D too, lol.
 
XoR_ said:
Magical Maxwell-like improvements to architecture that cause performance to massively go up and power consumption down do not happen all that often.
Maybe Nvidia has some tricks they saved for later time but it might be that these chips are already optimized as much as one could optimize such tech.

That said I would expect Nvidia to be more focused on raster performance if they were facing different situation.
Now they focus on AI and RT so what gives them money and advantage.
More RT in games in landscape they have best RT means they have best products.

And personally I rather want games with graphics like Cyberpunk 2077 with Path Tracing than without but more polygons.
Imho there is not enough focus on RT. They should throw more RT cores in there to really make using RT as cheaper option to do lighting 😅
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I don't think we're going all in for RT until PS6 and the next Xbox comes out, that's when most if not all AAA games should be exclusively RT rendered, maybe not necessarily fully path traced but along the lines of Metro Exodus Enhanced and Indiana Jones at the very least. Until then, games will still be mostly raster so raster performance will continue to matter until 2028 or so.
 
Gotta keep the hype train going. Scarcity drives price. Day one may be rough. Week one, Month one, even. We'll see down the road. They are doing much better at managing the supply in their own interest.
 
This reminds me of my build in Auguest 2020. I had the PC built with iGPU and planned to get a 3080. I ended up with a 3070Ti one year later. Never had my hand on a 3080 or 4090 (planned to grab one too).

Hope this time I can get the 5090, abd bit too late.
 
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I'm in no rush to get a 5090. Yeah, I'll try tomorrow. But not going to stress over 25% gaming performance. I mainly need it for AI and I've been taking a break from AI work lately. So if I get my hands on it in a few months that would be great.
 
I will buy one. Just not now. Doing a total PC rebuild this year. I passed on the 4090 because it didn't have DP2.0, the 5090 has DP2.1.

I desire to play at 5120x2160@120Hz+. With DLSS4, it will be a great single player experience.
 
Miami Micro Center just came out and told the crowd accumulating in line there was 10 5090’s and 80 5080’s available. The line was over 200, not sure. My buddy was in line before 6pm and he was 120 something. The folks waiting for nothing were not happy. Maybe good that they got told to prevent an all out riot in the morning.
 
St. David's (Philly) Microcenter came out and told everyone they have 4x 5090's. There are people lined up around the store.

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If there is 100,000, 5090-5090D gpu day 1, if the USA get 50% of the whole world supply, if brick and mortar get 33% of them to sale from shelf (60% online sells, 6-7% oem) how many would end up in the average 1,400-2,000 American brick and mortar sellers ? (there are over 1,000 best buys alone), that would be around 8 to 12...

Hundreds of people waiting all-day, all night, all morning just for a small chance of buying a 5090, goes quite against the storyline of no one want those at those price....
 
I think they go on sale at 8 am CST tomorrow. I'm not going to try and stay up all night as I have a busy day at work tomorrow, but I hope to get lucky. I will not settle for the version I don't want even if it takes a few months like it did for the 4090.
 
The scarcity drives the FOMO and people just go nuts. It wild to witness such mob mentality in action.
LukeTbk said:
Hundreds of people waiting all-day, all night, all morning just for a small chance of buying a 5090, goes quite against the storyline of no one want those at those price....
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Right?!
 
LukeTbk said:
If there is 100,000, 5090-5090D gpu day 1, if the USA get 50% of the whole world supply, if brick and mortar get 33% of them to sale from shelf (60% online sells, 6-7% oem) how many would end up in the average 1,400-2,000 American brick and mortar sellers ? (there are over 1,000 best buys alone), that would be around 8 to 12...

Hundreds of people waiting all-day, all night, all morning just for a small chance of buying a 5090, goes quite against the storyline of no one want those at those price....
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Credi Cards are cheap to get D:. When did those numbers come out or did you make that up? As far as I know, no one knew how many were going to be made available. Nvidia promoted at CES, marketed and so on. One had reasonable expectations for a reasonable responsible launch.
 
LukeTbk said:
If there is 100,000, 5090-5090D gpu day 1, if the USA get 50% of the whole world supply, if brick and mortar get 33% of them to sale from shelf (60% online sells, 6-7% oem) how many would end up in the average 1,400-2,000 American brick and mortar sellers ? (there are over 1,000 best buys alone), that would be around 8 to 12...

Hundreds of people waiting all-day, all night, all morning just for a small chance of buying a 5090, goes quite against the storyline of no one want those at those price....
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Official source for your numbers?

Or is it "trust me bro" source?
 
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Official source for your numbers?

Or is it "trust me bro" source?
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It is all math.... I could have made a mistake, but that something easy enough to check.

If you mean is it more than just a math what it would look if it was a 100k day 1 supply ? No, it is a litteraly if, same for the brick and mortar getting 33%, really saying if because I do not know.
 
noko said:
Credi Cards are cheap to get D:. When did those numbers come out or did you make that up? As far as I know, no one knew how many were going to be made available. Nvidia promoted at CES, marketed and so on. One had reasonable expectations for a reasonable responsible launch.
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Nvidia announced limited supply a while ago and in which recent previous launch being the 150th in line would have gave you more than just than a chance to buy a really big die GPU than everyone before you want as well ?

All the if in that sentence are to be taken as such.
 
LukeTbk said:
Hundreds of people waiting all-day, all night, all morning just for a small chance of buying a 5090, goes quite against the storyline of no one want those at those price....
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People with jobs are not camping out for multiple days for these cards. These are scalpers with nothing better to do. Hopefully they will be stuck with product and sorely disappointed, fuck em.
 
MavericK said:
People with jobs are not camping out for multiple days for these cards. These are scalpers with nothing better to do. Hopefully they will be stuck with product and sorely disappointed, fuck em.
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i really hope no one here falls for it...
and i hope they all walk away from the 5080s at the store too, not worth it.
 
Sprung said:
I think they go on sale at 8 am CST tomorrow. I'm not going to try and stay up all night as I have a busy day at work tomorrow, but I hope to get lucky. I will not settle for the version I don't want even if it takes a few months like it did for the 4090.
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Never settle... After 2 months of waiting I was able to easily snag the EXACT 4090 I wanted.
 
noko said:
Welk

well Nvidia does not have to worry about making a 5080TI, they already did, called the 4090. 😁
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Yeah, i only want a 5090 simply because i love tech. My 4090 doesn't even break a sweat at 4k max settings... lol. When it starts too, I pop frame gen on and all is good again. If I need more frames, I'll switch from DLAA to DLSS Quality. And with the new transformer model, it still looks amazing. So yeah, I can wait out the initial rush.
 
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