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Monster will compete and sell $499 dollar Ethernet cables.
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But it will be all for naught if you don't keep them off the floor with a set of cable elevators.This would pair nicley with the $7,500 pear HDMI cables and the gas injected $500 power cables
Make sure when you buy it that you buy this player and this networked audio device
otherwise you won't get the true effect. also you will probably need to buy 2 cables one for you dvd player and one for the audio device. Maybe you better get a 3rd for your computer while at it.
Well, hold on there. Speaker wire carries an analog signal at far higher voltages over a very wide frequency range. It does make a difference there.
Oh wow, that was hilarious.But it will be all for naught if you don't keep them off the floor with a set of cable elevators.
Wow. Just Wow.
And it only has a 90 day warranty. That just screams "We stand behind our products".
Here's a graphic of the cable components. Is Denon perhaps utilizing subliminal message techniques with the component naming?... Definitely the Heidi Fleiss of cables.
If only things were quite that easy. Unfortunately, they rarely are. A skewed digital signal may need to be reclocked at the input in order to suppress unwanted and potentially audible clocking jitter prior to digital-to-analog conversion. This is called anti-jittering or jitter suppression.ones and zeros. Doesn't matter if the one or zero is fuzzy, it's STILL a one or a zero, and that means that it's converted to the EXACT same analog waveform as it started as
If only things were quite that easy. Unfortunately, they rarely are. A skewed digital signal may need to be reclocked at the input in order to suppress unwanted and potentially audible clocking jitter prior to digital-to-analog conversion. This is called anti-jittering or jitter suppression.
Not that it makes any difference to you or anyone else, but just for 'teh record'.
Is there any scientific data to back this up? Is electricity impeded when the plastic coating the copper has an arrow pointing the other way?
This would pair nicley with the $7,500 pear HDMI cables and the gas injected $500 power cables
'Cept you need Cat6 to run Gigabit.
A caution to people buying these: if you do not follow the "directional markings" on the cables, your music will play backwards. Please check that before mentioning it in your reviews.
I was disappointed. I consider myself an audiophile - I regularly spend over $1000 on cables to get the ultimate sound. I keep my music-listening room in a Faraday cage to prevent any interference that could alter my music-listening experience. Sending any signal down ordinary copper can degrade the signal considerably. While ordinary listeners might not notice, to somebody with even a rudimentary knowledge of sound, the artifacts are glaring. Denon should have used silver wiring (hermetically sealed inside the rubber sheath to prevent any tarnishing, of course), which has a significantly higher conductivity than copper. Furthermore, Denon needs to treat the wires they use in the cable with a polarity inductor to ensure minimal phase variance.
Needless to say, I returned the cable and wrote an angry letter to the so-called engineers at Denon.
If I could use a rusty boxcutter to carve a new orifice in my body that's compatible with this link cable, I would already be doing it. I can just imagine the pure musical goodness that would flow through this cable into the wound and fill me completely -- like white, holy light. Holding this cable in my hands actually makes me feel that much closer to the Lord Jesus Christ. I only make $6.25/hr at Jack In The Box, but I saved up for three months so I could have this cable. It sits in a shrine I constructed next to my futon in Mother's basement.
I only gave it four stars in my review because I can't find music that is worthy enough to flow through this utterly perfect interconnect.
Well, not to brag, but I have to say I've found many additional uses than what this cable was originally intended for. First I thought it was just a mere audio cable that I've seen at every audiophile store in the land, but oh, its much more. This is not only a audio cable that has recieved the utmost detail to manufacturing attention. I have also been able to hook it up to my Router that connects into my DSL Connection and instantly upgrade myself to a OC-3 connection. Yes thats 400+Mbps of Data streaming into my house, just by merely connecting this cable between my DSL Modem and my Router. You jest?, Well the reason why is the quality is extremely higher than a typical Cat-5 Cable, or even a Cat-6 Cable. I would have to say this cable is rated at cat-7 or even better. Along with being able to upgrade my 1.5mbps DSL connection to 400+mbps, I have been able to successfully utilize this cable to connect my PC into a Switch that allows me to establish one of the most amazing home networks. Just by doing this I think I'm running at a 10gigabit + network speed. Its amazingly fast, with this cable and a few tweaks like upgrading the switches in my house, my network cars in my PC, actually buying a different cable, I've been able to achieve a LAN speed of 10Gigabit.
I must say the only thing I haven't tried to do with this cable is replace the powercord on my toast and hardwire this to the electrical current in my house to see if it will give me a more perfect slice of toast. Not that I'm questioning its ability to not, I have to solely believe that if I do this my toast from my toaster will be the holy grail of toasts. I'll be able to sell my secret recipe to Mc Donalds and then Mc Donalds will finally have Toast with their Big Breakfasts.
See in reality all you joke about this cable being so expensive, but if your looking to get ahead in life, you need to buy this cable. This cable will be one of the sole reasons why you become rich. It will help you out with your chores, I have mine mowing the lawn right now. I said hey Cable. I spent $500 on you, your gonna mow the lawn. Granted, I kinda have a feeling its going to be just handing on the handle where I left it and the Lawn won't be mowed. But if that happens, their will be H*LL to pay.. I will serve this cable up a heapin' helping of a can of Whoop @$$.
Needless to say, me and my $500 cable have become great friends, actually because everyone quit being my friend, because I say they are Jealous, they tell me I'm stupid for spending $500 on a $3 cable.. I say they are just Jealous.
Found these gems on Amazon's reviews
But it will be all for naught if you don't keep them off the floor with a set of cable elevators.
To cheap, I do not spend money anything less than a 1,000USD.
Exactly. If you pay more money for a "higher quality" cable you are an idiot. There is LITERALLY ZERO difference.
The people in that article used no measurements to verify what the electrical differences were, nor did they give any criteria to the listening group to evaluate; they simply asked which was "better". The only thing that was proven was that you MAY NOT be able to tell the difference, and that's hardly a useful conclusion, except to say that if you can't tell the difference then don't buy the thing.
The issue is that each bit must also arrive on time, relative to other bits, or samples can be potentially misinterpreted by converters. This generally isn't a problem because most jitter observed between consumer devices is deterministic and most modern consumer devices have some sort of jitter suppression.If the G()@damn signal is DIGITAL then it either gets there intact or it doesn't.
Yeah, they're still ones and zeros. The problem isn't that they become 2s and 4s (because they can't), but there's the potential for zeros to be interpreted as ones and vice versa. Flipping a single bit is potentially audible depending on the content of the signal and its significance in the sample (if it's the most significant bit, for instance, or if it's the least significant bit).0010101001001s are still 1s and 0s
As they point out in the article, 2 of the 7 people could correctly tell the difference. This is actually pretty significant, particularly because double-blind tests themselves rarely deviate from 50% (or the # of choices you're trying to differentiate). This means that double-blind test, because of participant psychology and testing methods, are heavily biased towards disproving a difference than proving there is one. The people in that article used no measurements to verify what the electrical differences were, nor did they give any criteria to the listening group to evaluate; they simply asked which was "better". The only thing that was proven was that you MAY NOT be able to tell the difference, and that's hardly a useful conclusion, except to say that if you can't tell the difference then don't buy the thing.
The consumerist.com website is a good thing to have around because they bring some publicity to issues that need it, but BY NO MEANS should ANYTHING they write about be taken as end-of-story fact. They are far, FAR from objective and never have the whole story (or the knowledge to understand it if they did).
As far as the denon cables go, little argument from me as far as ethernet is concerned, if that's even what they're for. But make goofy aspersions about high-end audio and there's gonna be trouble.
Monster should be happy now
Wow. Just Wow.
And it only has a 90 day warranty. That just screams "We stand behind our products".
Here's a graphic of the cable components. Is Denon perhaps utilizing subliminal message techniques with the component naming?... Definitely the Heidi Fleiss of cables.