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Got my C2 yesterday and color me impressed. This thing really is the perfect size. And wow it just looks amazing.
I never thought Vincent Teoh and RTings would have both S95B and A95K above G2 and C2. Was kinda surprised by that. Is A95K’s VRR as good as S95B’s now in the latest firmware?
A riddle for you TV as a monitor experts.
Just got the C2 42 , couldn't resists after going down to 799 and while still doing minor tweaks (waiting on the service remote ) , I have watched couple PC setting videos and got the ECO stuff off , and have full chroma at 120 coming from my 3080ti without issue. Dabbled in few games , World of Warships/Tanks , Valheim , MTG Arena etc and love the way it looks , just will have to either get used to full 4k again or decide to do the custom res ultrawide 3840x1600 as that's what was gaming on.
Here's the really weird quirk have found with one game. Crown of Solasta , a modern almost Baldur's Gate type game.
In full screen mode it forces the TV into a 24hz mode , locked at 24 FPS. Geforce shows it's still in the 100+fps as far as it's concerned , but this isn't a case of the Game Optimizer/TV fps being incorrect , it's definitely 24 fps/hz and hitting the green button to bring up the output shows 24hz , bringing up setting button brings up side settings menu without the game optimizer type screen that normally comes up in everything else. And the mouse stutter alone before even playing the game lets you know it's under 30fps for sure.
As typing this I did find one fix finally was fullscreen window mode and bam , back to normal 120hz , 100+ fps etc. Which I can deal with for this game , but am curious what could it be about this game that forces it to not just less that 120 or 60 hz , but locks it in at 24hz , turns off all the game optimizer functions , but only in full screen. Windowed mode apparently is ok with it.
Just struck me as odd because have done the PC Setting change on input , followed guides and gotten my windows desktop , multiple other games listed running at full screen 120hz full color without issue , but something about this game in full screen forces the output to be 24hz.
ArcTheSpark [has Solasta: Crown of the Magister] Dec 10, 2020 @ 11:12am
I managed to fix mine now by editing the UserPreferences.xml file directly.
You can find it in eg> C:\Users\User\AppData\LocalLow\Tactical Adventures\Solasta
I edited the following lines under the Graphics section:
<RefreshRate>239</RefreshRate>
<Resolution>1920 x 1080 @ 239Hz</Resolution>
<TargetFramerate>240</TargetFramerate>
And now it works correctly.
Sony 42 A90K OLED
The Sony 42 A90K OLED is a bit better than the LG 42 C2 OLED overall, but the LG is better for gaming. The Sony has a slightly more adjustable stand and gets a bit brighter, so it looks better in a moderately lit room. The LG, on the other hand, has a wider range of gaming features, including FreeSync support, and all four of its HDMI ports support 4k @ 120Hz gaming.
The Samsung S95B OLED and the LG C2 OLED deliver a somewhat similar experience, but they each stand out in different ways. Colors are significantly brighter on the Samsung, and it can display a wider color gamut with HDR content. Skin tones look better on the Samsung, but some colors look a bit unnatural at times. On the other hand, the LG has better black levels in rooms with a bit of natural light, whereas the Samsung is really best enjoyed in a completely dark room. The LG supports Dolby Vision, and it delivers a slightly more accurate HDR experience.
With any display, deep blacks are mainly noticeable if you're in a dark room, but it's even more important with this TV. Since it lacks a polarizing filter, blacks appear raised and the TV has a slight pink tint to it if there's even a bit of light in your room. To enjoy this TV to the fullest, you really need to be in a perfectly dark room.
The Samsung S95B uses a unique subpixel structure. Instead of having all three subpixels in a row, each pixel forms a triangle, with the larger green subpixel at the top. This isn't really noticeable with most video content, but it's an issue if you're using the TV as a PC monitor. Text has just okay clarity from a PC, as Windows ClearType settings aren't designed for this subpixel structure, and can't correct for it. You can see a few examples below:
I meant the perfect size for me. Obviously that's going to vary person to person.I wouldn't call 42" - 48" - 55" *4k* screens "perfect size" for stereotypical desk setups since:
. . the pixels won't be as fine as you'd expect for 4k (at 24" to 26" view, it looks more like 1500p's pixel density)
. . if you use scaling to combat text fringing because you are at "1500p" like range, you lose 4k 1:1 's greater desktop real-estate (down to 1500p like real-estate)
. . the viewing angles will be outside of your human binocular range viewpoint ( outside of 50 - 60 degrees)
. . near view = larger off-axis areas on the sides = larger areas on the sides of screen with non-uniform color.
without moving the desk back some using a spine floor tv stand, wall mount, or separate surface. But they are great screens for sure. Congrats.
There's always some better tech sooner or later. It's like a drum and the beat goes on. Just a matter of which beats you jump in on.
.. . but idk specficially about that VRR comparison. LG's fw update history and delivery on promised fixes/features has been great though. Idk if other mfg's will keep up with that kind of support.
IsLNdbOi Op · 5 mo. ago
It's alright. Aside from its unique size and aspect ratio, it's your run-of-the-mill 60Hz IPS monitor. In the beginning it was kind of weird looking at the OLED with its awesome black levels and contrast then looking slightly to the right at this monitor. Its viewing angles are what you'd expect from an IPS monitor, so fairly decent.
I like the combo though.
I used a 23" portrait monitor next to mine for a while but it was such an eye sore next to the OLED in a dark room that I ditched it.
You can follow this thread to see how to do it but you already added a rez in CRU. You can also do 3840x1600 or x 1620.....
Before doing this delete any existing custom res you've made in Nvidia or cru.
Open CRU
Copy the one extension block at the bottom, create a new one and paste it in there. Then under detailed resolutions in your new extension block at the top you should see one resolution already there.
It doesn't matter what it is, change it to desired res, in my case 3840x1646 as it is closest to 21:9 and set 60hz. This will not mean you are limited to 60hz. Now run restart64 to restart the display driver.
Go into Nvidia control panel and your res will show up as native, able to use 120hz 10 bit color with rgb 4:4:4 HDR and gsync.
>zipxavier Thanks for posting this! I tried previously using Resize Desktop and Customize Resolution but both were stuck at 8 bpc. Using CRU and following your instructions I now have 3840 x 1600 as a standard PC resolution @ 120 hz, 10 bit color and RGB Full.
Thanks, I saw these instructions before, but I'm not able to follow them. After creating a new extension block and pasting it in it, the detailed resolutions part in the extension block is filled out, greyed out and no modifications are possible.
Just got ColorControl going yesterday. Awesome little app. I LOVE the fact that it turns the TV on and off with the computer. I don't need to touch the remote anymore!
What is color control? I returned my qn90b and am getting the C2. What are the best win 11 settings for text clarity/hdr gaming/webape use? Can you share your calibration settings?
What I did was go look at 4k TVs and stand in front of a 48" and a 43" to get an idea of what I thought felt best. Now granted its not quite the same as watching an actual game but it gives you an idea of what feels too big or too little for your situation. I also had a tape measure with me and stood at different distances as if I was sitting at a desk. Sounds kinda corny but it helped me gauge what I needed/wanted for my situation. Remember you are picking what's best for you. Not what we think you should or shouldn't get.I am going to be wall mounting mine behind my desk would you guys recommend the 48-in or the 42-in c2?
Has anyone noticed the image does not fill to the bottom bezel on their LG C2? No matter the source or scaling option, there is a small gap between the image and bottom bezel that is not present on the other three sides.
I think it's the opposite, as long s you change your GPU settings to 444/ RGB. Setting the input to console might switch to 422. In either case, some text artifacts will persist, due to the WRGB pixerl layout.You guys with the C2....do you change your HDMI input to PC when using it with your desktop computer? Or do you change it to console? I heard that when using the C2 with a PC and the input labeled PC, it causes text fringing vs labeling the input console which makes the text look more clear. Is this true?
mYou guys with the C2....do you change your HDMI input to PC when using it with your desktop computer? Or do you change it to console? I heard that when using the C2 with a PC and the input labeled PC, it causes text fringing vs labeling the input console which makes the text look more clear. Is this true?
I think it's the opposite, as long s you change your GPU settings to 444/ RGB. Setting the input to console might switch to 422. In either case, some text artifacts will persist, due to the WRGB pixerl layout.
I use PC on the input type and set label to PC, RGB 10bit full in NVCP. Also scroll to the bottom section of the resolution box to the PC section, and choose 3840x2160, or you don't get the 120hz option with those color settings.
In Movies and TV Shows
Now, its importance with smaller text is undeniable, but what about with movies? 4:2:0 subsampling has been an industry standard for a long time now, and it isn't without reason. The benefits of having full color in video are debatable, especially at 4k. It would be tough to recognize the difference between a full 4:4:4 sequence and the same content in 4:2:0.
4:2:0 is almost lossless visually, which is why it can be found used in Blu-ray discs and a lot of modern video cameras. There is virtually no advantage to using 4:4:4 for consuming video content. If anything, it would raise the costs of distribution by far more than its comparative visual impact. This becomes especially true as we move towards 4k and beyond. The higher the resolution and pixel density of future displays, the less apparent subsampling artifacts become.
Sharper and more filled than RGB?RGB/444 is the sharpest and most sub-pixel filled toward 1:1
Sharper and more filled than RGB?
YCbCr 4:4:4 has the full subpixel color values as RGB does, colors are just encoded differently. But be aware, that YCbCr will mostly limit your dynamic range to TV/limited range (16-235). Your TV will then scale that limited range back to full-range (0-255, if capable). Because of that, some banding can occur, as some values are lost on conversion.
Does anyone occassionally get horizontal lines/flickers? Think it might be the cable
Yeah that does sound like a cable issue from all the things I've heard around here on HF. Try another cable. A good quality cable.Does anyone occassionally get horizontal lines/flickers? Think it might be the cable