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I must have missed it. Why do you want TR3 again if you aren’t asking for anything more than TR2 gives you?
because of NUMA, third gen access to the memory is way better.
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I must have missed it. Why do you want TR3 again if you aren’t asking for anything more than TR2 gives you?
because of NUMA, third gen access to the memory is way better.
So then it sounds like you do get more from TR3 does it not?
Same here, 2950X was a well balanced CPU, but
why should I thank AMD for?
they don't acted like good competition, they simply get the intel crown.
intel had their flaship CPU at 2K, now AMD have their mid tier threadripper at 2K with more to come that will easily surpass 3K.
I want more cores AND more performance, more performance is the price and the justification of the time needed to release a new product.
time equals to devaluation, so to mantain the same value you need to add value.
a better product after a year is the minimum requirements to launch a new product and ask the same money.
to ask more money you need to add even more value.
probably we are used bad with Intel acting like a shit in recent years.
Loose your hopes, Trx40 will never see ddr5
I want more cores AND more performance, more performance is the price and the justification of the time needed to release a new product.
time equals to devaluation, so to mantain the same value you need to add value.
a better product after a year is the minimum requirements to launch a new product and ask the same money.
to ask more money you need to add even more value.
probably we are used bad with Intel acting like a shit in recent years.
drastically faster? give me some percentage. it must be faster because it is new. but why the increased price with same amount of cores?
LoLIntel will come in the forst half of 2020 with a 10nm HEDT that will surpass Threadripper line and use DDR5 and PCIe 5.0. AMD needs to get the money fast.
Intel will come in the forst half of 2020 with a 10nm HEDT that will surpass Threadripper line and use DDR5 and PCIe 5.0. AMD needs to get the money fast.
Intel will come in the forst half of 2020 with a 10nm HEDT that will surpass Threadripper line and use DDR5 and PCIe 5.0. AMD needs to get the money fast.
Way to misunderstand what I was saying. Yes I am not fully versed on DDR5, although thankfully others have supplied better information than mine.
The point was, DDR5 or lack there of is not enough to destroy a socket.
Advantages
- twice the channels in half the dimms, so to run a quad channel socket you need 2. (twice as dense)
- chop and burst length change to16, so it can operate at higher frequencies.
Disadvantages
- higher frequencies are needed to provide equal latency.
- not out
The same stupid argument was made in the past 2 transitions of memory format. Neither had the outcome you are proselytizing.
Intel will come in the forst half of 2020 with a 10nm HEDT that will surpass Threadripper line and use DDR5 and PCIe 5.0. AMD needs to get the money fast.
Intel will come in the forst half of 2020 with a 10nm HEDT that will surpass Threadripper line and use DDR5 and PCIe 5.0. AMD needs to get the money fast.
Obviously not, when ddr5 arrive this socket is dead
I can afford the CPU but I wont. Stupid prices for a platform that will not last more than 2 years.
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Threadripper 3rd gen is a missed opportunity for AMD to crash intel.
Performance per dollar is not bad but not that good.
With the upcoming 10980XE 18 cores at $1000, $1400 for the AMD is pretty hard to justify even considering the whopping price of the Trx40 mobos that costs nearly double the price of an intel mobo.
Consider the fact that this platform will not have a long life this is pretty a bad deal for enthusiasts.
Ddr5 and usb4 will soon obsolete this platform, in two years we will not have any upgrade path even considering that higher end 3rd gen processor will require a different chipset like trx80.
3960X is pretty disappointing, it costs 100% more than 3950X while offering only 50% more cores, and then add the crazy costs of the Trx40 mobos.
This threadripper is clearly a huge opportunity for AMD but its prices and it's upgrade path destroys it in pretty every front.
... considering the whopping price of the Trx40 mobos that costs nearly double the price of an intel mobo.
Threadripper 3rd gen is a missed opportunity for AMD to crash intel.
Performance per dollar is not bad but not that good.
With the upcoming 10980XE 18 cores at $1000, $1400 for the AMD is pretty hard to justify even considering the whopping price of the Trx40 mobos that costs nearly double the price of an intel mobo.
Tom's Hardware
The new TRX40 Designare apparently commands $646.83, which is up to 58.7% more expensive than the previous model that retails for $407.62
Consider the fact that this platform will not have a long life this is pretty a bad deal for enthusiasts.
Ddr5 and usb4 will soon obsolete this platform, in two years we will not have any upgrade path even considering that higher end 3rd gen processor will require a different chipset like trx80.
3960X is pretty disappointing, it costs 100% more than 3950X while offering only 50% more cores, and then add the crazy costs of the Trx40 mobos.
This threadripper is clearly a huge opportunity for AMD but its prices and it's upgrade path destroys it in pretty every front.
You know, I always wanted a damn Bugatti Veyron, wtf they charge $2 million! Don't they know they are losing out on market share???
You all all making me want to do an upgrade to am AMD setup. Still running an overclocked 4930k here and have a XEON E5-1650 v3 (5930k equivalent) CPU/board/RAM waiting to go into my system.
For gaming though I don't really see the need yet.
Threadripper 3rd gen is a missed opportunity for AMD to crash intel.
Performance per dollar is not bad but not that good.
With the upcoming 10980XE 18 cores at $1000, $1400 for the AMD is pretty hard to justify even considering the whopping price of the Trx40 mobos that costs nearly double the price of an intel mobo.
Consider the fact that this platform will not have a long life this is pretty a bad deal for enthusiasts.
Ddr5 and usb4 will soon obsolete this platform, in two years we will not have any upgrade path even considering that higher end 3rd gen processor will require a different chipset like trx80.
3960X is pretty disappointing, it costs 100% more than 3950X while offering only 50% more cores, and then add the crazy costs of the Trx40 mobos.
This threadripper is clearly a huge opportunity for AMD but its prices and it's upgrade path destroys it in pretty every front.
I think the only market not being served by this are people who want the extra I/O from an HEDT/workstation platform but for whatever reason don’t want a big processor to go with it. Those three dudes are out of luck.
Yeahhhhhh, I'm one of those three: our FEA work benefits from crazy fast cores with monster memory bandwidth, but doesn't scale cores all that hot, so 8-16 is more than enough. So if I could buy the absolute fastest cores at a lower total count and get the benefits of the platform, I'd be a happier man.
But these processors are still great. This thread is indeed hilarious.
I've not messed with Ryzen anything. Is it possible to disable some cores and then clock the other ones up more than they could if they were all enabled?
I've not messed with Ryzen anything. Is it possible to disable some cores and then clock the other ones up more than they could if they were all enabled?
I've not messed with Ryzen anything. Is it possible to disable some cores and then clock the other ones up more than they could if they were all enabled?
Threadripper 3rd gen is a missed opportunity for AMD to crash intel.
Performance per dollar is not bad but not that good.
With the upcoming 10980XE 18 cores at $1000, $1400 for the AMD is pretty hard to justify even considering the whopping price of the Trx40 mobos that costs nearly double the price of an intel mobo.
Consider the fact that this platform will not have a long life this is pretty a bad deal for enthusiasts.
Ddr5 and usb4 will soon obsolete this platform, in two years we will not have any upgrade path even considering that higher end 3rd gen processor will require a different chipset like trx80.
3960X is pretty disappointing, it costs 100% more than 3950X while offering only 50% more cores, and then add the crazy costs of the Trx40 mobos.
This threadripper is clearly a huge opportunity for AMD but its prices and it's upgrade path destroys it in pretty every front.
I do support on the side for a few Drafting and Animation firms in the area and if half of the claims made by the AMD partners in their promotional videos are true then the ROI on the TR3 systems are less than 3 months for a some of them.... That is a huge deal and they certainly don't consider it too expensive, a high initial cost yes but they see it as a solid investment in growing their business. We are waiting for 3'rd party benchmarks and reports for sure but they are already budgeting accordingly for the upgrades.