3dfx Voodoo 5 6000

[erek]

The 3dfx Voodoo 5 6000 was tested successfully and is being prepared to ship to me:

 

[-=SOF=-WID99]

neat card .. still have my voodoo 5 5500 in one of my old P3 machines with a Intel 933 MHZ SLOT 1 CPU and a wopping 256meg of ram with Win 98 and i think 2... 2 gig WD drives .. wonder if it still boots ? it did last time i took it out a yr ago to play some old rom games and some good old games i never play anymore like the original Unreal and Unreal tournament ..ahh i miss the voodoo days ..but even back then good vid cards were expensive ..never thought of buying a 6000 ..hell back then it cost more then the car i drove :lol

 

[erek]

 

[auntjemima]

I'm glad you finally found the holy grail you have been looking for!

 

[horrorshow]

 

[erek]

Thank you, it was hard to ever consider actually finding one available seriously much less actually committing to the price associated with such a card. i don't know what got into me entirely, but it was random, sudden, and spur of the moment.

i made some sort of half baked commitment in my mind to be more proactive toward maybe buying one, so i googled "voodoo 5 6000 for sale"

i landed on this within the first few results: http://www.voodoo3dfx.com/Foro_V6k/viewtopic.php?t=301


Honestly i had no expectations but noticed a public e-mail address for "Markus" and just asked if he still had it available... somehow he did

 

[auntjemima]

Thank you, it was hard to ever consider actually finding one available seriously much less actually committing to the price associated with such a card. i don't know what got into me entirely, but it was random, sudden, and spur of the moment.

i made some sort of half baked commitment in my mind to be more proactive toward maybe buying one, so i googled "voodoo 5 6000 for sale"

i landed on this within the first few results: http://www.voodoo3dfx.com/Foro_V6k/viewtopic.php?t=301


Honestly i had no expectations but noticed a public e-mail address for "Markus" and just asked if he still had it available... somehow he did

Jesus Christ. 3000 euros.

 

[erek]

This guy wants 5000 Euros over at voodooalert :

https://translate.google.com/transl...x.php?thread/22949-v-v56k/&pageNo=1&sandbox=1

 

[Mazzspeed]

How I'd love one of these for my Pentium 3 build, sigh.

 

[erek]

How I'd love one of these for my Pentium 3 build, sigh.

Need specific motherboards to make sure it doesn't fry : " the HiNT bridge which is the biggest death cause for the Voodoo 5 6000 cards in the world. On some motherboards this chip can be destroyed by a short-circuit during the boot process and this kills the whole card."

EPoX 8K3A+ seems to be the preferred platform (Athlon XP)

The Voodoo5 6000 Motherboard List

Compatible Mainboards for V6K's
Abit Sa7 (SiS645dx) Rev. 1.2 (latest BIOS) compatible Rev.A 3700
SIDENOTE: If 98SE is used, the latest Raziel Evolution Driver is needed, Amigamerlin + Reference Drivers will cause the System to lock up in 3D Apps (no further drivers tested). No Problems under XP with reference drivers, Amigamerlin, SFFT, none further tested
Asus P4S533-E (SiS645dx) Rev. 1.04 (BIOS 1006 and 1008Beta tested) compatible Rev.A 3700
ASUS P3B-F (i440BX, v1.04): compatible (tested BIOS up to 1006, higher BIOS versions result in no-vga beep) Rev.A3 3400
EPoX EP-BX3 Rev.A2 2600, Rev.A3 3400, Rev.A 3700 & Rev.A 3900 compatible
EPoX EP-8K3A Rev. 1.0 - 1.2 Rev.A0 0700, Rev.A1 1500, Rev.A2 2600, Rev.A3 3400 Rev.A 3700 & Rev.A 3900 compatible
EPoX EP-8K3A+ Rev. 1.0 - 1.2 Rev.A0 0700, Rev.A1 1500, Rev.A2 2600, Rev.A3 3400 Rev.A 3700 & Rev.A 3900 compatible
EPoX EP-8K5A2+ Rev. 1.2 Rev.A2 2600 & Rev.A 3700 compatible
EPoX EP-8K5A3+ Rev. 1.1 Rev.A2 2600 & Rev.A 3700 compatible
EPoX EP-8KHA VIA Apollo KT266(A) compatible Rev.A 3700
Intel OR840 (i840, v701, v702, v703, v704): compatible
(v702 tested extensively, tested BIOSes include IBM and Intel original BIOS v225, v235, v248 and v255 versions (255 got a bug with FSB133 stability though, 248 recommended)) Rev.A3 3400
Gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P Rev: 1.0 Rev.A 3700 compatible
SOYO KT333 ULTRA DRAGON compatible, Rev.A 3700
Tian Ji Motherboard 815 ET Rev.A2 2600 compatible Tested by Edmundoab in Kuala Lumpur in a computer store. specs of this mini ATX P3 mobo here:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/230676…ard_815_ET.html

Partly Compatible Mainboards for V6K's
ASUS P3C-E (i820): partly compatible (runs, but HB1-SE66 heats up abnormally during POST and operation, confirmed to pose a real danger to the bridge chip! Do NOT try! If you absolutely have to, using a heatsink for the HB1-SE66 bridge chip is a must!) Rev.A3 3400 & Rev.A 3700
MSI KT3 Ultra2 (KT333 CE) partly compatible Rev.A 3700
Tyan Tiger 760 MPX Rev.A2 2600, Rev.A3 3400 & Rev.A 3700 partly compatible
Tyan Thunder K7X Pro Rev.A2 2600, Rev.A3 3400 & Rev.A 3700 partly compatible

Incompatible Mainboards for V6K's
ABIT BX6 (i440BX, v1.0): incompatible (no POST) Rev.A 3700
ABIT BE6-II (i440BX, v1.1): incompatible (no-vga beep) Rev.A 3700
ABIT ST6-RAID (i815EP, B0 Step): incompatible (no-vga beep) Rev.A 3700
ASUS A7A266-E incompatible, Rev.A 3700
ASUS A7M266-D Rev.1.01 incompatible, Rev.A 3700
ASUS TUA-266 Rev. 1.01 Rev.A 3700 incompatible
ASUS A7V333-R Rev. 1.02 & 2.00 Rev.A 3700 incompatible
Soyo 6BA+IV (i440BX): incompatible (no-vga beep) Rev.A 3700

 

[FrgMstr]

Mine...

 

[VoodooRufus]

What kind of rig are you going to plug it in to?

 

[erek]

What kind of rig are you going to plug it in to?

So far I have purchased an EPoX 8K3A (non-plus) motherboard, and someone was donating and AMD Athlon XP 2400+ / Ram. At the moment it seems like Windows 98SE... I don't even have a PATA HDD though

 

[Mazzspeed]

So in dreamland, if I was to slot one of these cards into an i815EP Gigabyte GA-60XET motherboard complete with a Pentium 3 Tualatin 1.2S and a decent PSU, would my platform potentially kill the card?

 

[Forge]

So in dreamland, if I was to slot one of these cards into an i815EP Gigabyte GA-60XET motherboard complete with a Pentium 3 Tualatin 1.2S and a decent PSU, would my platform potentially kill the card?

Hard to say. Not many cards around to test with, and it's ugly to plug a ~3.5-4K$ card into an unknown mobo and just see if it blows up. There are a significant number of Intel chipsets in the "no vga beep" group, so not great odds.

 

[Mazzspeed]

Hard to say. Not many cards around to test with, and it's ugly to plug a ~3.5-4K$ card into an unknown mobo and just see if it blows up. There are a significant number of Intel chipsets in the "no vga beep" group, so not great odds.

I wonder whether Kyle's ever used his prized example or whether it's just too risky to even try? It'd be downright heartbreaking if you inadvertently destroyed it.

 

[evilpaul]

Those had a thing with the AGP connector not checking if it was getting 3.3V or 5V, hence the explosion, didn't they? Let us know how Quake III Test looks with anti-aliasing and motion blue.

 

[GiGaBiTe]

So far I have purchased an EPoX 8K3A (non-plus) motherboard, and someone was donating and AMD Athlon XP 2400+ / Ram. At the moment it seems like Windows 98SE... I don't even have a PATA HDD though

I have a few IDE drives kicking about if you need one, just pay shipping. I'll have to spin some of them up to verify their condition, most have been sitting in drive piles for years.

Those had a thing with the AGP connector not checking if it was getting 3.3V or 5V, hence the explosion, didn't they? Let us know how Quake III Test looks with anti-aliasing and motion blue.

The AGP bus never had 5 volts, it had 3.3v (AGP 1x/2x), 1.5v (4x/8x) and 0.8v (8x). Both the V5 5500 and V5 6000 are AGP 2x cards but don't take advantage of any AGP features and essentially treat it like a 66 MHz PCI slot. This caused much bemoaning of 3dfx fans back in the day because AGP 4x/8x was on the horizon and wasn't compatible due to the voltage and mechanical key. There were "universal" AGP slots which could generally accept all AGP cards, but these were usually only on low end junk motherboards and had compatibility issues. In my quest to get my V5 5500 running on a Pentium 4, I had to get such a board and its limitations prevent faster P4s from being used. The fastest the board supports is a 3.06 GHz Northwood HT or a 2.8A GHz Northwood without HT.

There have been reports from the very brave that you can carefully cut the pins where the 4x/8x notch is supposed to go on a V5 5500 and it is *supposed* to work, but I dare not try. Apparently there are traces running inside the PCB near the top of the AGP connector, so cutting too far kills the card. I'd rather ruin several motherboards swapping the physical AGP connector out and never trying this.

 

[erek]

I have a few IDE drives kicking about if you need one, just pay shipping. I'll have to spin some of them up to verify their condition, most have been sitting in drive piles for years.



The AGP bus never had 5 volts, it had 3.3v (AGP 1x/2x), 1.5v (4x/8x) and 0.8v (8x). Both the V5 5500 and V5 6000 are AGP 2x cards but don't take advantage of any AGP features and essentially treat it like a 66 MHz PCI slot. This caused much bemoaning of 3dfx fans back in the day because AGP 4x/8x was on the horizon and wasn't compatible due to the voltage and mechanical key. There were "universal" AGP slots which could generally accept all AGP cards, but these were usually only on low end junk motherboards and had compatibility issues. In my quest to get my V5 5500 running on a Pentium 4, I had to get such a board and its limitations prevent faster P4s from being used. The fastest the board supports is a 3.06 GHz Northwood HT or a 2.8A GHz Northwood without HT.

There have been reports from the very brave that you can carefully cut the pins where the 4x/8x notch is supposed to go on a V5 5500 and it is *supposed* to work, but I dare not try. Apparently there are traces running inside the PCB near the top of the AGP connector, so cutting too far kills the card. I'd rather ruin several motherboards swapping the physical AGP connector out and never trying this.

Hopefully this 8K3A pans out, otherwise you'll be hearing from me


https://www.ebay.com/itm/S8B1-EPOX-...vip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137

 

[GiGaBiTe]

I don't think I'd ever pay MSRP for a 16 year old board.

 

[erek]

I don't think I'd ever pay MSRP for a 16 year old board.

i couldn't find another 8K3A available desparate times...

also this thread with Gold Leader is really heating up again about the pricing of the 6000:

this thread is heating up again: https://www.voodooalert.de/board/forum/index.php?thread/22949-v-v56k/&pageNo=4

 

[Mazzspeed]

Retro computing is increasing in popularity, an unfortunate side effect of this is the fact that Retro hardware is now very expensive.

But there is something special about reliving the good old days on real hardware that emulation just can't touch.

 

[GiGaBiTe]

The price of a V5 6000 is quickly reaching the level of being able to design and manufacture a new V5 6000 from scratch. There is still a small stock of VSA-100 chips available so it's definitely possible.

 

[erek]

The price of a V5 6000 is quickly reaching the level of being able to design and manufacture a new V5 6000 from scratch. There is still a small stock of VSA-100 chips available so it's definitely possible.

what about the prices of the nVidia GeForce FX 5800 Ultras? over 2,000 USD at one point. any comments on that one?

 

[FrgMstr]

I wonder whether Kyle's ever used his prized example or whether it's just too risky to even try? It'd be downright heartbreaking if you inadvertently destroyed it.

That card was COVERED with reworks when I got it. I cleaned it up to hand it on the wall. I bet I cut off 100 reworks. Looked like a rat's nest of wires. I would guess that it does not work. That card sample was one of the first ever built. When NVIDIA bought 3dfx, it was found in a closet, and one of the guys at NVIDIA, that previously worked at 3dfx, handed it off to me.

 

[GiGaBiTe]

what about the prices of the nVidia GeForce FX 5800 Ultras? over 2,000 USD at one point. any comments on that one?

The GF FX 5800 is a vastly more complex chip, it'd be far more expensive to make and you'd need to find trays of old GPUs, which probably aren't floating around.

 

[erek]

The GF FX 5800 is a vastly more complex chip, it'd be far more expensive to make and you'd need to find trays of old GPUs, which probably aren't floating around.

Just Quadro FX 2000s, etc, but those are roll of the dice if they can hit 500 MHz from those NV30 chips

 

[atp1916]

erek You finally got one.

Well done, sir.

 

[erek]

"Ma Xucla
9:30 AM (6 hours ago)

to me


Hello, dont be nervous. All correct.

Package is sent using a fast delivery but carrier gone since package needed a telephone number. Carrier from spanish postal will come tomorrow and package will be in route but now package is on spanish postal service.

Pity, since I did not know nothing about telephone number.

It costed me 100Euros for fast delivery but sadly until tomorrow package will be not in move. Perhaps in 2-3 days package will be there. "

 

[erek]

First part of the puzzle arrived, capacitors look all right

GiGaBiTe

 

[swatbat]

That isn't the via chipset that had the issue with corrupting hard drives is it? I remember that issue with one of them, went to an nforce instead back in the day after having one personally give me a lot of grief.

 

[auntjemima]

Yay! A VIA chipset lol

 

[Algrim]

My only slice of the 3dfx history is the Voodoo Banshee I have stuck in the AMD Thunderbird system I repurposed for my mother-in-law. Unfortunately, Arizona weather is not conducive to running the inferno so it's retired but still put together. I bet it still works...

 

[pendragon1]

Yay! A VIA chipset lol

I liked my via chipset boards. never had a prob and the 4in1s made it easy. had a duron 600 do 1133 on via.

 

[auntjemima]

I liked my via chipset boards. never had a prob and the 4in1s made it easy. had a duron 600 do 1133 on via.

I'm totally with you. It was more tongue in cheek because the last time I showed pictures of my super socket 7 board with a VIA chipset I got nothing but flak lol

I also had a VIA chipset on my 1.4tbird in 2001 on the dreaded ECS K7S5A. A board that I had not a single issue with, but was apparently notorious for problems.

 

[-=SOF=-WID99]

What a fascinating piece of history to own! I loved the 3dfx days. The last 3dfx card I ever owned was a Voodoo 3 3000 before I switched to a GeForce 2 GTS in the early 2000s, I really wish I still had that Voodoo 3.

wanna buy your past ? ..think i still have a 3dfx v3 2000 and 3000 here make me an offer ..was sad the day my Abit geforce 2 gts died in a system built and i sold to a friend and he brought the PC back .. was a 64 meg model ..he let that single GPU fan cake up with DUST ..killed the whole PC ..it was sold clean and was kept clean here for over 3 yrs ..but i never sold my voodoo cards ..think i still have a voodoo 2 diamond black magic card lying about too .. its PCI ..dunno if it works

pretty sure the v 3 3000 is still in a p3 300 system in my storage space ..whats it worth to you ?

 

[-=SOF=-WID99]

but i will still say its amazing erek found a voodoo 5 6000 ..and congrats sir

hope it serves you well in all kinda old games if ya need drivers i think i have some old ones backed up for the old voodoo chips ..you'll need win 98 SE installed i think to use em ..i'll have to dig for em and i'll post ya a link to get em

 

[auntjemima]

but i will still say its amazing erek found a voodoo 5 6000 ..and congrats sir

hope it serves you well in all kinda old games if ya need drivers i think i have some old ones backed up for the old voodoo chips ..you'll need win 98 SE installed i think to use em ..i'll have to dig for em and i'll post ya a link to get em

There is a site I have book marked that has all the drivers for every voodoo card. I'm sure erek has it as well lol

 

[Forge]

That isn't the via chipset that had the issue with corrupting hard drives is it? I remember that issue with one of them, went to an nforce instead back in the day after having one personally give me a lot of grief.

You're thinking of the 686B southbridge. It had problems with bad citizens on the PCI bus (SB Live/early Audigy) corrupting other people's DMA transfers (hard disks, mostly). Erek's board has an 8233A south, which was mostly usable. As good as Via chipsets got, mostly.

 

[Mazzspeed]

I'm totally with you. It was more tongue in cheek because the last time I showed pictures of my super socket 7 board with a VIA chipset I got nothing but flak lol

I also had a VIA chipset on my 1.4tbird in 2001 on the dreaded ECS K7S5A. A board that I had not a single issue with, but was apparently notorious for problems.

I used to have a VIA based Super Socket 7 board with AMD K6-III. I have to say I had issues with it, it was flaky as all hell. However I honestly wish I still had it and I'd never give anyone flak for owning one now, they're a great retro gaming setup.