34" 21:9 UltraWide Displays (3440x1440) - LG UM95/UM65 & Dell U3415W

[Makeroflostsouls]

It will be much cheaper than that in US.

The LG monitor in UK is £800.
I would thinkg AOC in US will be around $550

I hope it's this much. If so I'll picking it up as soon as it hits a store. I'm working over time right now to save up for a new monitor.

 

[wiregen]

Just wanted to give everyone an update:

I received a UM95 from Newegg. Guess what? LCD was cracked during shipping. It's being shipped back to Newegg.

I had a pre-order for $899 through B&H and I got a notification it shipped today.

I ordered one from Costco and tried to cancel but they said just return it to the store (Costco rules!) I'd rathe keep the Costco one and get a return from Newegg.

I ordered this dual Monitor mount. So I can have my MacBook Pro docked on the top and my PC on the bottom.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036RDOT8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

[Tyrindor]

Careful Newegg sometimes doesn't offer refunds/returns on monitors this big, they may only offer a replacement. Their policy has gotten really bad on some larger items.

Out of curiosity, did they even bother double boxing it? That's a bummer, man.

 

[doug_7506]

Careful Newegg sometimes doesn't offer refunds/returns on monitors this big, they may only offer a replacement. Their policy has gotten really bad on some larger items.

This is why I love Amazon. I bought a $2k+ TV from them. Took them three tries, but the third one finally came unbroken. Never once did they give me any problems about replacing and even offered a refund (without me asking) after the second. But I really wanted that TV. lol (PN64d7000 - One of Samsung's all time greatest!)

 

[Neutrino]

here are some pics of mine with a dark screen

Pictures taken with Sony nex 16mm lens.

Exposure: 2 sec | f8 | iso 200

what do you guys think ... is the corner glow acceptable? Did I exaggerate with the exposure time?

The glow does seem to vary greatly with the angle (far worse at sharper angles than straight on)

 

[GT98]

I got my UM95 from Amazon...was shipped only in the original box! Ugh. Thankfully no damage though and the UPS guy hid it behind one of my Adirondack chairs on my porch LOL

I have a little bit of glow in the lower right hand corner with black screens with the monitor...I haven't noticed it any games etc. Mine has a build date of June 2014

My biggest complaint so far...I've spent $2500 on this monitor and a Radeon 295X video card...and for the love of god neither one of them included a Mini display port to display port adapter...so I had to spend another $10 (overnight shipping included) at Amazon to get one. I'm running it with HDMI to mini display port adapter that comes with the Radeon and I'm capped to 30hz...

Since I'm limited to 30 FPS, I'm just trying my games out without getting to0 mad...BF4 shows some tearing even with V Sync on. AC:BF has bars on it even though its set to native resolution with it and World of Tanks looks funny, but I changed some settings and haven't tried it since then to see if that took care of the problem.

I'll report back when I get my Display Port cable up and running with it.

 

[Tyrindor]

what do you guys think ... is the corner glow acceptable? Did I exaggerate with the exposure time?

The glow does seem to vary greatly with the angle (far worse at sharper angles than straight on)

Any glow that varies with angle is IPS glow which is 100% normal on these panel types. Any glow that happens regardless of angle is backlight bleed. If that's indeed a solid black room, I would consider it "acceptable", could be worse and could be better. If you can't notice bleeding during normal light and viewing conditions I wouldn't worry. IPS glow on the other hand will always be a little noticeable. It's odd to me that one side is orange and another is white-ish blue. Is that the camera?

This is why I love Amazon. I bought a $2k+ TV from them. Took them three tries, but the third one finally came unbroken. Never once did they give me any problems about replacing and even offered a refund (without me asking) after the second. But I really wanted that TV. lol (PN64d7000 - One of Samsung's all time greatest!)

They have their limits too sadly, I got a notice from Amazon threatening to terminate me after exchanging 2x 32" BL3200PTs. I ended up getting a 3rd and it was also damaged, the refund is still processing so who knows if they'll actually ban me. Here was the email (I called to verify it was legit). After googling there's quite a few complaints of people being banned for life from Amazon for "excessive returns".

Hello,

We're writing to apologize for the number of issues you've experienced with your shipments. Your correspondences with us indicate you've required refunds on a majority of orders for a number of reasons.

Through the normal course of business, the occasional problem is inevitable. However, you seem to have had an unusually high rate of problems in your account history.

When unusual account activity such as this comes to our attention, we'll evaluate each account on a case-by-case basis to determine if additional action is necessary, including closing the account. We’d prefer to work with you to avoid that inconvenience, as we do value your business.

If you have any questions in the future regarding your account, please write to us directly at [email protected].

Continued failure to comply with our policies may result in the removal of both your Amazon.com buying and selling privileges.

We appreciate your cooperation and understanding.

Best regards,

Account Specialist.

 

[Neutrino]

Any glow that varies with angle is IPS glow which is 100% normal on these panel types. Any glow that happens regardless of angle is backlight bleed. If that's indeed a solid black room, I would consider it "acceptable", could be worse and could be better. If you can't notice bleeding during normal light and viewing conditions I wouldn't worry. IPS glow on the other hand will always be a little noticeable. It's odd to me that one side is orange and another is white-ish blue. Is that the camera?

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The room was indeed dark (night+curtains), hence the long 2 sec exposure. The camera was also quite close (wide 16mm lens on aps-c) so the corners were quite at an angle especially at the latest shot.

If i look straight on at the corners the glow does go away.

And no it's not the camera, the left side corner glow is more "yellow-ish" and the right side is "blue-ish". Should i be concerned?

 

[Tyrindor]

If i look straight on at the corners the glow does go away.

And no it's not the camera, the left side corner glow is more "yellow-ish" and the right side is "blue-ish". Should i be concerned?

From my understanding this monitor uses 2 controllers to produce the 3440x1440 picture. I've seen pictures where one side of the monitor is slightly different colored than the other side. As long as that's not happening, I wouldn't worry about it. It'd be a straight line down the middle and very noticeable.

Based on the pictures, I'd almost think that the left side was IPS glow and the right side was backlight bleed due to the way the light is forming... but it's really hard to tell with pictures. If you look straight at each corners, and the glow goes away, it's just normal IPS glow and perfectly normal. I would not worry until you can see it from dead on.

 

[AFD]

It will be much cheaper than that in US.

The LG monitor in UK is £800.
I would thinkg AOC in US will be around $550

+1. The selling price and MSRP will never be a direct conversion from their Euro price. The LG 34UM95 is €850 right now from Amazon.de (was €1,000) and is $1,000 from Amazon.com

If AOC's Euro MSRP on the u3477Pqu is actually around €500, it'll probably be the same in the US (or at least pretty close).

 

[Neutrino]

From my understanding this monitor uses 2 controllers to produce the 3440x1440 picture. I've seen pictures where one side of the monitor is slightly different colored than the other side. As long as that's not happening, I wouldn't worry about it. It'd be a straight line down the middle and very noticeable.

Based on the pictures, I'd almost think that the left side was IPS glow and the right side was backlight bleed due to the way the light is forming... but it's really hard to tell with pictures. If you look straight at each corners, and the glow goes away, it's just normal IPS glow and perfectly normal. I would not worry until you can see it from dead on.

Thanks for the advice

Sounds like the glow is probably exaggerated by the monitor's sheer width causing larger viewing angles from the center to corners

Makes me wonder if a VA panel would've been more suitable

 

[Derkspector]

They have their limits too sadly, I got a notice from Amazon threatening to terminate me after exchanging 2x 32" BL3200PTs. .

Amazon is in the assassination business now ?!? I knew it. I knew there was reason they were building those drones.

Just one more step closer to skynet I guess.

 

[StryderxX]

Thanks for the advice

Sounds like the glow is probably exaggerated by the monitor's sheer width causing larger viewing angles from the center to corners

Makes me wonder if a VA panel would've been more suitable

Looks like you got a decent one. My advice is to use it for several hours and check it again. If it's the same as the pics you posted I say keep it. If the bleed gets worst then RMA it.

 

[Neutrino]

Looks like you got a decent one. My advice is to use it for several hours and check it again. If it's the same as the pics you posted I say keep it. If the bleed gets worst then RMA it.

Had it for two weeks almost, I just did not have enough time to investigate. Good to know it's a good panel ... some of the posts here made me worry

 

[onturo]

not my monitor, but it is nice to see that there are some good panels around as well.

photos were copied from here: http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/HardwarePeripheriques/Ecran/lg-34um95-3440x1440-sujet_62912_12.htm

I ordered mine from Spanish Amazon and the estimated arrival is within 10 to 14 days. can't wait

 

[deepdesign]

So has anyone received there 34um95 from amazon yet? Just curious, I ordered mine on June 20th and Im just trying to get an idea how long ill be waiting. After following this forum for a while, Ive determined that waiting is a good thing because the new models seem to be some what better.

 

[Tyrindor]

not my monitor, but it is nice to see that there are some good panels around as well.

photos were copied from here: http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/HardwarePeripheriques/Ecran/lg-34um95-3440x1440-sujet_62912_12.htm

I ordered mine from Spanish Amazon and the estimated arrival is within 10 to 14 days. can't wait

That there is an amazing one.

 

[GT98]

So has anyone received there 34um95 from amazon yet? Just curious, I ordered mine on June 20th and Im just trying to get an idea how long ill be waiting. After following this forum for a while, Ive determined that waiting is a good thing because the new models seem to be some what better.

I placed my order May 23rd and got it today..so you might have a wait

 

[Skott]

TBH, I don't feel it will ever be fixed... at least not in the LG. It happens with all IPS monitors and it's usually luck of the draw on how bad it is. The 34" 21x9 factor makes it way more lightly to be a problem, from what I understand the framing only needs to be just a tiniest bit off and you will have backlight bleed. Dell seems to take more measures to prevent it from happening. I think LG just isn't getting the frame measurements 100% correct, which results in the panel shifting a bit allowing some leakage in the corners.

It's a shame too, because backlight bleed to that extent is a deal breaker regardless of how good a monitor really is. I would image their return rates are extremely high (hence the recall), but they still didn't get it fixed. I imagine this is why Dell is taking making sure they do it correct. LG is probably losing money on these.

Nobody is sure what Dell is doing. Theirs could be better, worse, or the same. Until they actually have a production model available we won't know. I do hope Dell and others are taking note though. I doubt they read these forums.

 

[Tyrindor]

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26577930&postcount=1985

Firmware v2.0 update "soon" according to a user.

 

[jolli]

Got mine in and calibrated it with the i1 Display Pro.

Same story as pretty much everyone else:

 

[lee0539]

Got mine in and calibrated it with the i1 Display Pro.

Same story as pretty much everyone else:

When was it made? from where?

 

[Kinesis]

Just got mine from B&H(april order date) shipped on 7/3/14
Manufactured date was May 2014

here's mine with 10 brightness cinema mode,just wondering what's the consensus regarding the orange glow on the bottom left is it back light bleed or ips glow? does mine warrant a return?


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[jolli]

When was it made? from where?

June 2014. From Costco.com.

Edit: For reference, that is 31 brightness which is ~120cdm calibrated.

 

[adudeinblue]

So my estimation for delivery between LG and Massdrop is wrong. Seems very reasonable.

Aside from the extended warranty and the possibly all-black case (still to be determined), they also have a shorter wait time attached to them. A Massdrop order for the standard 34UM95 wouldn't ship until mid to late August (according to LG) but the 34UM94s should be good to go by late this month.

 

[Tyrindor]

June 2014. From Costco.com.

Edit: For reference, that is 31 brightness which is ~120cdm calibrated.

Debating on almost refusing delivery of mine. Mine is coming from Costco in 2 days. So far 2 people have posted from that batch, both lots of bleeding.'

Very very few people seem to not have issues, so I almost doubt its vendor-specific. Quality control like this on a $1000 monitor is nuts, they definitely sent out PRAD and Linus cherrypicked versions of it. I doubt they just "happened" to get flawless panels.

 

[jolli]

Debating on almost refusing delivery of mine. Mine is coming from Costco in 2 days. So far 2 people have posted from that batch, both lots of bleeding.'

Very very few people seem to not have issues, so I almost doubt its vendor-specific. Quality control like this on a $1000 monitor is nuts, they definitely sent out PRAD and Linus cherrypicked versions of it. I doubt they just "happened" to get flawless panels.

Yeah I paid for the PRAD review and the image they had of the monitor in a dark room looked nothing like this. Unsure what I want to do, but Costco is easy to work with.

EDIT: Other than the glow/bleed issue, this is a really nice monitor. It is far more uniform than any U3011 I had ever was, and the AG coating is pretty nice. If it just glowed/bled less it would be amazing.

 

[deepdesign]

I placed my order May 23rd and got it today..so you might have a wait

How is the light bleed on yours? What Month was yours produced?

 

[jamiee]

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26577930&postcount=1985

Firmware v2.0 update "soon" according to a user.

Are these actually firmware upgradable by individuals?
I don't recall being able to do this with my EA93

 

[GT98]

How is the light bleed on yours? What Month was yours produced?

Mine isn't bad at all...I have a little bit at the lower right hand corner...I'll try to get a photo of it tonight if I can. Anyone have any hints as what is the best way to do this?

It was built June 2014

 

[GT98]

One odd ball thing I have noticed is in some games I'm starting to have audio problems with the onboard sound since I got the monitor...I had it in Titanfall, AC:Blackflag (really bad with this one) and Batman: Arkhem origins. I updated the drivers from Realtek and normally rebooting takes care of the problem, but it often crops up again if I stop playing one game and play another.

 

[wiregen]

Careful Newegg sometimes doesn't offer refunds/returns on monitors this big, they may only offer a replacement. Their policy has gotten really bad on some larger items.

Out of curiosity, did they even bother double boxing it? That's a bummer, man.

They shipped it in the LG box. From the sounds of people here. Other resellers do the same. The retail box is not very protective at all.

Edit: Looks like Newegg is going to give me a refund since the monitor is out of stock. Whew!

 

[AgentQ]

Debating on almost refusing delivery of mine. Mine is coming from Costco in 2 days. So far 2 people have posted from that batch, both lots of bleeding.'

Refusing delivery of something you ordered?

It's Costco. Unless I'm missing something, you can just return it at a local store after you've opened it and checked it out. Costco has a very liberal return policy. If it makes it all the way to your front door, you can at least plug it in and take a look before making up your mind.

Very very few people seem to not have issues, so I almost doubt its vendor-specific. Quality control like this on a $1000 monitor is nuts, they definitely sent out PRAD and Linus cherrypicked versions of it. I doubt they just "happened" to get flawless panels.

Don't forget that people are much less likely to post about it if it's not a problem.

 

[Tyrindor]

Refusing delivery of something you ordered?

It's Costco. Unless I'm missing something, you can just return it at a local store after you've opened it and checked it out. Costco has a very liberal return policy. If it makes it all the way to your front door, you can at least plug it in and take a look before making up your mind.

I'm in Iowa. There are no local stores nearby, nearest is over 80 miles. I assume they would still cover my return shipping in this case, but Costco tends to tell people to "return it to a store". I'm trying to check their site to see if they cover return shipping on faulty items, but it's down for maintenance. =/

Don't forget that people are much less likely to post about it if it's not a problem.

Sure, but out of the 3 online friends that ordered these all 3 had the same problems and returned them. These are widespread issues.

 

[Sikpupi]

Aaagh looking at the pictures on the French forums is not making this easy. I've been offered 350 for my old (very slightly defective 3008FWP) and really going to bite on this.

 

[AgentQ]

One odd ball thing I have noticed is in some games I'm starting to have audio problems with the onboard sound since I got the monitor...I had it in Titanfall, AC:Blackflag (really bad with this one) and Batman: Arkhem origins. I updated the drivers from Realtek and normally rebooting takes care of the problem, but it often crops up again if I stop playing one game and play another.

I wonder if it has something to do with the additional load of rendering for 3440x1440 instead of whatever (presumably smaller) monitor you were using before?

Have you tried running at your previous lower resolutions to see if the problem goes away?

 

[JediFonger]

are you guys watching a ton of cinemascope 2.4 movies? i would think these arne't great for productivity purposes. it's very movie-focused.

 

[John721]

Was anyone else surprised by the input lag AnandTech reported?



Is that with displayport?

Others in this thread/forum were reporting much worse times, what could be cause of the discrepancy?

This monitor sounds like a perfect buy (from that article)

Just curious, but would input lag differences be expected from different connections? For example, I have a 34UM65 (2560x1080) hooked up via dual link DVI - would I be better or worse off with displayport (DP)? My video card does have DP. Any other possible advantages to DP?

 

[x3sphere]

Was anyone else surprised by the input lag AnandTech reported?



Is that with displayport?

Others in this thread/forum were reporting much worse times, what could be cause of the discrepancy?

This monitor sounds like a perfect buy (from that article)

Someone here measured the input lag early on and it was pretty close to Anandtech's result IIRC. Can't find the original post, it was back in May though...

I've not had any issues with lag using the DP connection.

 

[BIGGRIMTIM]

Just curious, but would input lag differences be expected from different connections? For example, I have a 34UM65 (2560x1080) hooked up via dual link DVI - would I be better or worse off with displayport (DP)? My video card does have DP. Any other possible advantages to DP?

How is the 34UM65? haven't really seen any info.