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Discussion in 'nVidia Flavor' started by Master_Pain, Aug 20, 2018.
Welcome to the club! The water feels great!!
I'm not signed up to anything with FedEx and I received a text this morning letting me know my card would be delivered today and requires a signature.
Man... Not quite yet. I'm a working old person.. I've arranged for the kids to stay at grandparents tonight, then gonna take my wife out to dinner.. (have to pay my dues LMAO, happy wife = happy life), then I get to go home and disassemble my PC for cleaning and finally install the 2080ti. (last time I rebuilt the computer was when pascal launched. lol)
I wish all the stupid miners would die so that we could buy these cards at affordable prices. What was that? This is nVidia's fault?
Could use a little more cowbell
Welcome man! Load up those old games .... I promise you will be pretty amazed. Games take on a different feel for damn sure.
The 2080 Ti is like taking a Dodge Hellcat down the quarter mile. Lot of guys in the stands want one but it's you ... you behind the wheel haha.
Go grab Shadow Warrior 2 for free and crank up the settings beautiful game!
Now how to figure which Microcenter to go to. 3 in a close radius and none know when they will have stock.
Tracking number still does not work after 9 hours, so I do not think it is moving yet.
^^ Doing better than us eVGA folks! LOL
Mine delivered yesterday. Had a little overheating trouble at first, but I got it sorted with the MSI Afterburner beta.
These cards are great, getting around 50% better performance versus the GTX 1080 SLI they replaced.
Running in 7680x1440 144Hz: Far Cry 5 High settings 90 - 100fps, Dying Light High settings over 100fps.
Some older games I had installed, F.E.A.R. 2 and Half Life 2 Ep1, getting 141fps locked (frame cap), no dips.
The price was steep, but I'm happy with the performance. As long as I can get over 90fps in new games, it still feels smooth with G-Sync.
Man.. for the first time I'm able to run 4k with all details cranked up. (No MSAA though) Solid 60 FPS or more, even with my not so new CPU. Everything is so crisp and detailed now, but with that motion clarity added in.
With a good overclock, your CPU is as fast as the latest for almost all gaming workloads!
Kansas City Microcenter has these 2 x 2080 ti's in stock as of 45 mins, an hour ago. DO NOT rely on their online stock. It does not reflect what they actually have in. Trust me, I'm down there 3 - 4 times a week.
They also have the new MSI z390 Godlike Motherboard in stock but it's not reflected on their web site as an example.
Awesome and thanks for the invite, I'm always up for a beer (or 2)
So are these things still not in stock anywhere? I wanted a MSI Gaming 2080 Ti
I snagged a 2080ti a week ago by using nowinstock. You might be waiting a long time for these to be plentiful. The card is a beast.
With how fast these are being scooped up I'm surprised we haven't seen any altcoin benchmarks being blasted everywhere.
I think the air has been let out of the balloon a bit on the crypto market. But I do wonder how profitable they are and the ROI with the price hikes.
Guys, I have an EVGA 2080ti available. I'm planning to post it for sale soon. Retail, no mark up.
I imagine the ROI is years if not negative.
I don’t install that crap on my main PC or I’d give it a go...
I think most of these are being picked up by scumbag resellers. Not actual people, and not even crypto miners. I've also seen many retail 'custom builder' PC's available that have the cards as well.
There are tons of cards available - All on Newegg/Amazon/Whatever marketplace for like $2k.
Basically all the cards are being scooped up by assholes who just want to sell them for a higher profit.
They're just going to lose their asses on them if people wait for wider availability.
Did you finally get them, Kyle, or are they still missing? Really looking forward to your review even though these shipping delays are super annoying.
Not looking to buy but just interested in the [H] review. What a mess of a launch this has been.
Certainly not a great launch and I wasn't impressed on the seven week lead time from pre-order to delivery. Got mine two 2080 Ti FEs on Monday and so far so good though the 416.16 drivers were causing me issues with some DX 12 games, looks like 416.34 fixed those issues. Only problem I see currently is loss of 4k Netflix support and not sure if that's a Windows 10 1809 issue or issue with these 400 series drivers. Not a huge deal but annoying. In terms of gaming performance, yeah there are some noticeable differences over my pair of 1080 Ti FEs in some games, Shadow of the Tomb Raider just feels smoother while running at even higher settings.
What'll make these 2000 RTX cards interesting is DLSS and ray tracing and there's some time to go there.
Yes. Got them in on Monday. Going to send one to Brent for review. The other is staying here with me for water block reviews. Starting on that next week.
Most excellent. Have a nice weekend!
The 2080 Ti FE is back in stock:
I almost bought another one.
Frankly, this seems quite representative of the problem:
It is becoming more and more clear that NV is trying a quick moneygrab with the 20 series and that at every step of the way they have not been ready for release. We STILL cannot use RTX features , their main selling point - 2h keynote about exactly that - with 3 high end cards on the market! And somehow some people here are buying them, which blows my mind. I'm starting to recognize the signs of a fever I glimpsed in the past couple years, but now is becoming glaringly obvious.
The cards were not ready? What?
You can claim that Microsoft wasn't ready, cause they weren't- or that the game developers weren't ready, cause they weren't either. But the hardware is ready.
Which is not Nvidia's fault- or responsibility. They've done everything they can to get ray tracing hardware into consumers' hands, more than anyone else.
So you cannot understand why people might be buying these cards, thus you attribute it to a 'fever'?
You do realize that the card that is perpetually out of stock is the 2080Ti, which is the fastest consumer GPU available, regardless of RTX features, right? You think that might have something to do with why people are buying them?
Do you even realize that you're on the [H]?!?
Sensational much? You ever think people might just want the fastest car available? Like usual? Good grief man. Do you work for CNN?
OK, I guess [H] means different things to us then. To me, it's a community of smart people who understand technology and enjoy learning about it, part of which are enthusiasts. I guess the enthusiast part is taking over the sane part, where many here now buy hardware that they can't use therefore paying prices without knowing what they'll get in return.
Oh my, how times are changing.
Yeah - RTX cards can't be used...c'mon man. RTX features for now, sure.
We are talking about $600, $800, and $1,200 cards here - not sure why everyone is up in arms over what people spend their money on. That's peanuts compared to many hobbies and you get nice returns when you sell your old card - so your new $1,200 card turns into a $600-$700 card. Go buy a brand new 1080 Ti while you can if that's the route you wanna take.
I'd rather have an RTX 2080 over a 1080 Ti (in fact, just did that sidegrade) because of the potential of the card. If you'd rather stand pat, more power to you. New cards will come next year and you can bitch then, too.
Uh, so you never understood what [H] was to begin with? No wonder you're so confused about people buying the fastest thing they can get!
The other point (where you speak about understanding and learning technology) - what better way to do that than to acquire a new GPU (or 3) and put them through the paces. It has been 2 years since a new GPU has graced the market so yeah, even if RTX hasn't lit the world on fire - people are buying them because they're enthusiasts. I spent $2k on RTX cards and made $1k selling my old cards. Hardly a big expense.
I think NVIDIA's play is RTX will be ready and trickling out by the holidays and more widely available early next year - by then the enthusiasts will have bought their cards and it will be time for the general pop to start getting interested and ready to upgrade. PLUS - let's not forget the big Intel release coming.
He's a mid-range PC buyer and can't understand why others aren't as frugal as he is.
The [H] is not one thing, as I said. There are many different communities. One side, the enthusiast side, is starting to take over in the GPU world. If you've been in this industry for the past 3 decades like I have, you notice these waves and changes. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm saying it's different and it keeps surprising me.
Do not misunderstand - I choose to buy midrange, that does not mean I'm not cognizant of other offers and their value. Midrange is the correct target for me. It's not for many others. A 1080ti makes perfect sense, even a Titan, for many people. But buying an RTX card when you cannot use RTX features a full month into the release... does not make sense. These cards have a %30 price increase for little gain or similar % gain, which makes them a questionable value proposition - not just for me, for anyone. This is a new generation that does not do what new generations do: give you more performance in the same price bracket. This is not more for the same, it's more for more. That, looking at the past 30 years, makes it bad value by comparison.
You may disagree, but historical context does not lie: this "generation" is not really a regular generation. The value proposition is objectively worse than in previous generations. And pretty much every single notable youtube reviewer has mentioned exactly this fact. Wanna buy it? More power to you. That doesn't make it a good value. There's more value if your interest is in RTX, but you can't use RTX features, so value = 0. If you want it in the future... why not wait until then and most likely pay less now that the mining bubble is over?
If you've 'been in the industry' for three decades as you claim, then you'd know what [H] means.
Do note that I've been here too.
Now, let me agree with you here:
...at least so much as you assign zero value to DLSS and ray-tracing, which is you understood what [H] means, you wouldn't be doing. But you have!
So understand that value is relative, even objectively speaking. For those that one or even two 1080Ti's or similar Titans are simply not fast enough, the 2080Ti fills a gap that simply hasn't yet been filled. If you've reviewed this thread then you know that many have upgraded from one or two 1080Tis for reasonable sums of money when viewed objectively next to their overall system builds and their performance targets.
Blah blah blah.
Again, I want the fastest card available for my 4K usage. That would be a 2080 TI.
All of what you said is meaningless drivel.
Yet you continue.