2.8 Brisbane to e7200 @ 3.6+....worthwhile?

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Anyone with direct experience?
Noticeable overall, and at gaming at 16x12?
 
I would say 800MHz gain plus superior processor architecture would definitely be worthwhile.
 
What would you do?
Ride a horse OR Drive a car

I would say yes it's worth while.
 
Sirk1000 said:
What would you do?
Ride a horse OR Drive a car

I would say yes it's worth while.
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a 2 cylinder car or race horse...



it depends on what you do on your pc...if its gaming.. maybe like 5 to 10 fps more..
if you're getting 60 fps, you'll get 70 now .. eyecandy wont change ...
 
Many report only noticing the differences of such an upgrade in benchmarks.
 
vict0r said:
a 2 cylinder car or race horse...



it depends on what you do on your pc...if its gaming.. maybe like 5 to 10 fps more..
if you're getting 60 fps, you'll get 70 now .. eyecandy wont change ...
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where do you get such a random number as 5 to 10? the old AMD architecture sucks even compared to the 7200. a 7200 at 3.6 will make a difference in gaming even at 1600x1200. of course it all depends on the game but in some games the difference could be huge especially with a good video card.
 
To those saying its not a worthwhile upgrade for gaming, it depends a lot on the graphics card. I don't think the OP will notice a lot of difference with his 3850 as he's probably more GPU limited at this point, but if he upgraded to an 4850 or better it would make a BIG difference.
 
The 4850 or better upgrade will depend on how my card handles Fallout 3.
 
harpoon said:
To those saying its not a worthwhile upgrade for gaming, it depends a lot on the graphics card. I don't think the OP will notice a lot of difference with his 3850 as he's probably more GPU limited at this point, but if he upgraded to an 4850 or better it would make a BIG difference.
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yep. I have 2.6 5000 X2 and upgrading from an 8600gt to a 4670 saw little to no improvement at 1280. all the reviews out there show the 4670 sometimes doubling the performance of the 9500gt(basically a 8600gt) at 1280 but they all use much better cpus.

even at 1680 with a 3850 he would still pick up some performance in newer games by going with the much better and faster clocked Intel cpu. going with a 4850 or 4870 would make the Intel cpu even more worthwhile because the old X2 would basically just shit itself in some newer games with a high end video card.
 
cannondale06 said:
yep. I have 2.6 5000 X2 and upgrading from an 8600gt to a 4670 saw little to no improvement at 1280. all the reviews out there show the 4670 sometimes doubling the performance of the 9500gt(basically a 8600gt) at 1280 but they all use much better cpus.

even at 1680 with a 3850 he would still pick up some performance in newer games by going with the much better and faster clocked Intel cpu. going with a 4850 or 4870 would make the Intel cpu even more worthwhile because the old X2 would basically just shit itself in some newer games with a high end video card.
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I think you're having issues with your 4670. There should be plently of room for improvement there. I know this is a little off but, my brother upgraded from a 6800GT to a 4670, on a PD 2.8GHz. According do how your logic, this CPU is so old there shouldn't be any kind of improvement, he saw anywhere from a 2-3 times improvement. If he moved to a processor similar to yours I'm sure he could get even more out of it.
 
Listed in my sig is my setup. A friend of mine and his brother both have nearly the same system as me, except they both have a E8400 and a p35 gigabyte board. I played TF2 on both their systems noticing a HUGE difference compared to my system. We all have 22inch LCD's so we were all playing at 1680x1050. The settings were the same, we 3 three have nearly identical systems, cept for the proc and mobo. On my system with a 3800+ I get around 10-30 FPS under heavy firefights on servers with more than 20 people. On both their systems, they get 60+. This CLEARLY indicated a cpu bottleneck on my part. I could not believe how much smoother their systems were compared to mine, even though we were all playing with the same 8800GT's and on the same settings. I don't know about the OP, but I myself will be joining my friends in getting a E8400 quite soon.
 
xBanzai89 said:
I think you're having issues with your 4670. There should be plently of room for improvement there. I know this is a little off but, my brother upgraded from a 6800GT to a 4670, on a PD 2.8GHz. According do how your logic, this CPU is so old there shouldn't be any kind of improvement, he saw anywhere from a 2-3 times improvement. If he moved to a processor similar to yours I'm sure he could get even more out of it.
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sorry but I doubt he actually got that much of an improvement. the old Pentuims sucked for gaming and I know that his cpu is killing most potential that 4870 has and thats a fact. also even running a 9600gt in my system showed very little improvement in some games. I had to crank settings up to almost unplayable levels for an improvement at 1280 in all but a couple games. in UT3 for example the 9600gt, 4670, and 8600gt had the same performance at 1024 and the 9600gt or 4670 were only about 3-5 fps faster at 1280 on all max settings. I spent two days running benchmarks so I am just pulling numbers out of my ass.

now some games like Call of Juarez DX10, Clear Sky, and Lost Planet did have huge improvements over the 8600gt using the 4670 or 9600gt but thats about it. also in almost every game using the 4670 or 9600gt the minimum framerate did not increase over the 8600gt using the same settings. in fact in some games in went down a couple of frames. the old AMD Athlon tech completely sucks when compared to the newer Intels in modern games.
 
KollunZ said:
Listed in my sig is my setup. A friend of mine and his brother both have nearly the same system as me, except they both have a E8400 and a p35 gigabyte board. I played TF2 on both their systems noticing a HUGE difference compared to my system. We all have 22inch LCD's so we were all playing at 1680x1050. The settings were the same, we 3 three have nearly identical systems, cept for the proc and mobo. On my system with a 3800+ I get around 10-30 FPS under heavy firefights on servers with more than 20 people. On both their systems, they get 60+. This CLEARLY indicated a cpu bottleneck on my part. I could not believe how much smoother their systems were compared to mine, even though we were all playing with the same 8800GT's and on the same settings. I don't know about the OP, but I myself will be joining my friends in getting a E8400 quite soon.
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Yeah TF2 eats CPU like crazy. The game seems to perform worse now than when it first came out... I can't imagine what kind of performance people still on single core setups get with it. The game will run perfect at 60+ FPS with a few people on screen but as soon as I get into a huge firefight on 32 player servers it drops to around 25-30 FPS on my X2 5000+. For this reason I usually stick to 24 players or less servers.

To the OP, if you upgrade I'd recommend going with the E8400, simply because it has more L2 cache, which seems to really help in Source games. That's what I'm thinking of upgrading to from my 5000+ but am waiting a bit to see more benches for Nehalem.
 
I'm considering the 8400 over the 7200. The extra cache is nice, but the ~+50% more $, and perhaps the extra difficulty in overclocking (since the e7200 starts at a lower fsb) favor the e7200.
 
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