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Correcto...77 F, not C. I'll edit...thanks.

I have the same Corsair 520 mated with a Q6600, 3 gig of ram, one HD, one DVD drive, 3 120 mm case fans, and a MSI Cyclone 1 gig...works great! MSI Cyclone runs 32 ^C at idle, 34-45 C light chores and have yet to see the video card hit 60 C under heavy loads (ambient around 77 F). I am running...

Metro 2033 is brutal on any single gpu, regardsess of whether you are in the green or red camp. see... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_GTX_460_Cyclone_OC_1_GB/27.html

You've done a great job representing BFG Jeff ,and interfacing with many of the BFG end-users here @ [H]forums. I shall never forget the free PCI card trade-in for old AGP cards. Simply unheard of in the VC industry. Again, Jeff, thanks! I wish for you and what remains of BFG the best!

Sad, sad, day. BFG has been a 'staple' vid card in many of my builds. Their "ThermoIntelligence" designs were particularly noteworthy! My son's BFG 8800 GT OCX is still kickin arse and taking names after two years of hard use. And BFG's rep, Jeff Kozlowski, was always available on the [H]OCP...

One ofthe largest threads on hardocp is as follows: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1276019&page=40 Lots of stuff on the 3850 series of card - if you have the time to spare.

I tried the Crysis demo and the best I could do was medium settings with no AA and no AF, to get halfway decent framerates. The single core processor will not fully unleash this card. D865 PERLL Intel motherboard and 2 Gig of ram. I do have a lot of overhead on the machine though with...

I have the same processor as you and upgraded to the 3850 over a year ago when it was selling for over $200 and replaced a VisionTek 1950. The 3850 is faster and runs much cooler and the card will throttle down when running 2D. Its a much better deal now at almost half what I paid. Yes, your...

Good to know, and thanks for clearing this up! The card I received (9600GTOC) certainly looks new...I was just led a little astray by the message on the static bag yellow seal. Any advice on registering these cards since they do not come with a 'sales receipt'?

Ditto. The electrostatic bag the card came shipped in was sealed with a yellow sticker reading, “Bag RESEALED after QC inspection”, so this card is probably a “refurb”. But I’m not going to “look a gift horse in the mouth” and “beggars can’t be choosers”. The card appeared to be in good shape...

From 2003 through 2005, I purchased 4 BFG, AGP cards, 2 FX5900s, a 6800GT, and a 7800GS. One of the 5900s cratered, and BFG through the RMA process replaced it with a 5950…needless to say, I was very pleased, not only in the speed of the RMA return, but that I ended up with a better card. This...

Ditto on the slow RAM modules...and the HSF looks real "retro"...and the price, LOL! It looks like this card was put out more as an "after thought", rather than a real contender.

Anybody seen one of these in the wild - VisionTek 3850 AGP? http://www.visiontek.com/products/cards/retail/3850_512_AGP.html Google shows only the following: http://www.nextag.com/VisionTek-VisionTek-Radeon-HD-607852127/prices-html

If you are using 1280 x1024 or lesser resolutions, with your setup I would recommend the 1950 Pro, provided you can find one that has been "gently" used. The downside...if it croaks, you've lost $55 because ATI branded card warranties are not transferable. The 3850 would be significantly...

I have an EVGA 8800GTS 640 and a VisionTek Dual Slot 3870 512. The 8800 GTS is the better card in terms of framerates, for just about every game I play including Crysis on a 22" Samsung WS monitor. With AA engaged the difference is even more noticeable and the 8800GTS runs 10-15 degrees cooler...

Anyone try the regular CAT 8.6 from the ATI website released on the 19th?

Ditto - stay away from the 8.4s...they do not work...no love yet from ATI for the 3850 AGP stepchild.

I had the exact same problem. The remedy - do a forced install of regular ATI 8.3s. After I did this (installing the driver first and then the CCC), I had 1440 x 900 again and the image is just as crisp as that of the 1950 Pro. I have had no BSODs, game crashes, or other program crashing of...

You may want to try relaxing your cpu overclock and memory timings. In fact, I would suggest you restore both to normal and then try Crysis, just to see if it will run. What power supply are you running? Also, I can't find the specific LIan Li Case you list , i.e. VM. Although Lian Li cases...

I have a X1950 Pro and the fan acquired a "grating" or "raspy" sound indicating that something might be amiss. I emailed them under their support option and received an e-mail back that asked for me to supply specific infomation, within the body of their correspondence, i.e. date purchased...

The Sapphire 3850 AGP is again "in stock" at NewEgg, one day earlier than the ETA! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102730

Were you in "Safe Mode"?

NewEgg now has an ETA of 03-25-2008 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102730

You make a valid point with which I am in agreement! However, if the period of time the cards are made available, and assuming it could be rather short, then relatively few of these cards will be sold. The fewer cards sold, the less likely ATI will incorporate support software responsive to...

Have you tried the "forced" install suggested by "pimpdad82"? This approach worked for me as I now have WHQL drivers (including 8.3 CATs) that are stable and fully operational with whatever application I load or game I play. Also, there may be a "long line" of people that for one reason or...

Danger! Danger! Will Robinson! I've heard some real horror stories from folks who have tried to tweak extra speed out of the 1950 Pro. With your rig, I would recommend leaving it at stock. That X2 4400 is a nice cpu and the 1950 Pro should run just fine with it at stock. In fact, if you want...

Interesting...and all of the other sites posted at the beginning of the thread are either not listing the Sapphire card anymore or, show "out of stock". It will be interesting to see what 'unfolds'. With the alleged new entries of 3850 AGP by HIS with different cooling solutions, could be...

Regular ATI 8.3s worked for me. See response #159 on page 8. Good luck on finding 3850 AGPs - most retailers are out of stock!

I've had half a dozen Antec PSs over the years ranging from two 400w "Smart Power" units, to three 430w "True Power" units, to a 480w "Neo Power"unit. So far, two have cratered, one of the "Smart Power" units and a TP unit. So, I would say overall the Antec units are probably "average" when...

This approach/technique does work. I had installed the XP Sapphire driver set and CCC previously. I uninstalled the Sapphire CCC but kept the driver. I then followed the directions posted by pimpdad82, just updating the drivers under Hardware/Device Manager/Display Adapter/Update. After...

As of 1:30 PM, Central Standard Time, NewEgg is "out of stock" on Sapphire 3850 AGP - will be interesting to see how long it takes to get them back in stock. Many times, they'll post RMAs as OEMs or "open box" and sell returned cards in this fashion - it will be interesting to see if any show...

Your score looks reasonable - I have a 3.2 Northwood that scores 4562 in 3dMark06. But remember, your 3dMark06 score may not represent how your rig performs in actual gaming situations, especially in GPU intensive games. With 2 Gigs of dual channel RAM, your rig should play most games...

I noticed this morning that Newegg has the PowerColor version. I'ts a little more expensive and no pics yet.

More good news! [honestjohn wrote] Tigerdirect also has a supply of the Visiontek Cards for $189. Don't know why anyone would want this card as opposed to the HD3850 though. I can't believe Dell is asking for $240 for the Visiontek 256MB X1950 Pro as I only paid $249 for the Sapphire 512MB...

Wow! Super! Thanks for the info and for giving a more accurate account of how the card handles Oblivion.

Although I’ve moved on to PCIe, I still maintain and run a 3.2 Northwood on an Intel D865 PERLL motherboard. Back when I purchased these two items, they were not cheap and so it’s just my nature to extend the useful lifetime as long as possible, especially since it is still versatile enough to...

Thanks for the heads up! I downloaded the file, but it appears to consist of the same files that came with the card. All *.inf and *.dll files appear to be the same size which suggest they are unchanged and thus represent the same un-optimized and thus non-WHQL drivers. I realize that...

I agree...I uninstalled the Synchmaster software and installed the CCC that came on the Sapphire Disk and have a beautiful image again on the desktop, so that's one less problem. Although none of the regular enthusiast's sites have published a review of the card, at least The Inquirer gave the...

Good conjecture and probably pretty much on target. It is what it is. The bios in my D865 MB is set for 8X AGP, by the way. I do have a lot of stuff running in the background, but it is all stuff I need, e.g. AVG antivirus, WebRoot Spy Sweeper, Disk Keeper, etc., etc. And, at the same time...

Yes I know...unfortunately its an Intel D865 PERLL MB, known for its stability, but lack of overclocking options...well, I can go up about 4%...just don't know what that would give me, but I may try.