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Yesterday was $6,999 for a HP OMEN with the 5090 is now $8,499. Yikes.Only 5090s in stock at my MC now are prebuilds going for $9k.
no nvidia is being some junk right now..I wouldn’t spend that even if I had it…and they’ll put a shitt doggy do unit on it..put the Solytech deer 400w unit on it see if it will trip…I don’t know what to tell just cause it’s overpriced doesn’t mean it’s good.
Ihave my 5090 in my main rig and I paid $599 for a 9070XT last year to have as a backup.Gotta stock up while you can (Honestly this was all last years stuff because I like playing with different architectures,. I'm halfway tempted to import a Lisuan LX 7G100 to play with)
If Nvidia even makes a 5090 equilivent...I would expect the entire stack to shift for 6xxx serise next year if they even come out in 2027. 6080 class card will be a 24gb will be the 6090. 6070 will be the new 6080 and so on. Gamers are not going to get the big chip anymore.
They'll hit the landfill before the used market. Nvidia doesn't allow them to be resold, they can only go back to nvidia.Will all these data center GPUs be useable via the driver trick when they hit the used market?
God, hasn't that been the truth for way too long?Things are going to get worse, before they get worser.
If my 5090 needs a RMA i will just use my other one.All current 5090 owners better be hoping they don't need to RMA it... Almost guaranteed all they will do is refund purchase price. Assuming they just don't deny it outright.
I think Intel left the GPU market at the worst possible time.... NVIDIA price gouging everyone... Means even a 3rd place company, selling at the right price becomes very competitive. I almost bought a B580 until I found a lightly-used 5070.
I am sure that is what it wants to use its wafer allocation for.... /sIf AMD ever had a time to be as relevant in the gaming market, as they were since the ATI 9800/X850/X1900 days... it's right about now.
Rtx 6000 pro uses the same connector fwiw.I wonder how much the power connector issues factored into the 5090 decision. Probably not a major factor, but I could hear someone in a Nvidia meeting saying something like "You know, in addition to these being more valuable to the data center markets, dumping the consumer 5090 product solves our 12VHPWR problem too."
Totally made up, but seems feasible to me. The 12VHPWR thing may have been the last straw. I've seen products die like this before.
Makes me curious about how the data center products are powered.
On a quick search I could not find any good high res pictures of the PCB. There is a Gamersnexus tear down video and the board looks the same as the 5090. Like Buildzoid observed on the 5090, it looks like there is only one shunt. Any reported burned connectors on these?Rtx 6000 pro uses the same connector fwiw.
That's why I have kept my Antec 1100 so long, 2 120 mm fans directed squarely on the side of the GPU. Though I still sold my 5090 when it reached 5.5k, just didn't make sense to keep it.On a quick search I could not find any good high res pictures of the PCB. There is a Gamersnexus tear down video and the board looks the same as the 5090. Like Buildzoid observed on the 5090, it looks like there is only one shunt. Any reported burned connectors on these?
While a hack, a fan blowing on the connector will help it survive. If these are used in servers with very good airflow, that may prevent the failures seen on 5090s in consumer quality cases.
so the answer is:how to secure Nvidia's top RTX GPU
Sadly , it's not that easy. It doesn't have anything to compete in the high end which is where the mindshare is generally won. It also can't do much to stave off price gouging anymore than NVIDIA can. Lastly, I don't think they have the capacity to increase their availability all that much. AMD is about 10% or less of the market right now. I don't see that changing this generation.If AMD ever had a time to be as relevant in the gaming market, as they were since the ATI 9800/X850/X1900 days... it's right about now.
I didn't think it really was at $2,000, much less the $2,600+ most of them were going for around launch.It's not a consumer graphics card anymore at these prices.
so the answer is:
buy a PC (that comes pre-built with the 5090 !!)
Sadly , it's not that easy. It doesn't have anything to compete in the high end which is where the mindshare is generally won. It also can't do much to stave off price gouging anymore than NVIDIA can. Lastly, I don't think they have the capacity to increase their availability all that much. AMD is about 10% or less of the market right now. I don't see that changing this generation.
I didn't think it really was at $2,000, much less the $2,600+ most of them were going for around launch.
Love how that press photo in the link has him holding the dual PCIe 5090 edition I guess. Seems they couldn't even muster one up for the photo.....“NVIDIA Denies RTX 5090 Discontinuation Reports; Jeff Fisher Confirms Flagship GPU Will Continue Shipping”
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-denies-rtx-5090-discontinuation-reports/
Sadly , it's not that easy. It doesn't have anything to compete in the high end which is where the mindshare is generally won. It also can't do much to stave off price gouging anymore than NVIDIA can. Lastly, I don't think they have the capacity to increase their availability all that much. AMD is about 10% or less of the market right now. I don't see that changing this generation.
I didn't think it really was at $2,000, much less the $2,600+ most of them were going for around launch.
Those "economic cars" now like the Toyota Corolla and Honda Civics have the starting price of 25-30k. The Toyota freaking Camry is 35k. Rav4? Because it has low stock like GPUs, its 45k for the basic bare bones trim. *(TTL included in price calculations)*I agree with the volume part. I disagree with the high end being where the mind is won.
I don't consider Toyota vehicles irrelevant because Lamborghini exists. My price point isn't Lamborghini, it's Honda, Toyota, Mazda and the like.
Point being, if the only market relevant to me is sub $1000, then that's all that is really relevant to me. I honestly don't care if a 5090 cost $2000 or $10000 or if AMD has a competitor in the $2000+ range. That's all out of my price range anyways. The most I care about 5090 class hardware is how it's demand pushes down on the hardware I can actually buy. Most people are in the sub $1000 market, and a large part of that is $500 or lower.
ai generated?Love how that press photo in the link has him holding the dual PCIe 5090 edition I guess. Seems they couldn't even muster one up for the photo.....
It's on sale! (Would love to get a rtx 6000 pro on sale lol.
Not true. I think within certain brands, the flagship is what sets the tone for the rest of the lineup. People might correctly, or incorrectly assume that because NVIDIA has the fastest GPU's at the top of the stack, that holds true for the rest of the lineup. When most people think of Chevrolet, it's not the spark, or the Volt they think of. It's the Corvette or at least a high end Silverado or something. Not the Equinox. I think of Ford I think of F-150's and Mustangs. Not the crappy Mach-E or other BS they make.I agree with the volume part. I disagree with the high end being where the mind is won.
I don't consider Toyota vehicles irrelevant because Lamborghini exists. My price point isn't Lamborghini, it's Honda, Toyota, Mazda and the like.
Point being, if the only market relevant to me is sub $1000, then that's all that is really relevant to me. I honestly don't care if a 5090 cost $2000 or $10000 or if AMD has a competitor in the $2000+ range. That's all out of my price range anyways. The most I care about 5090 class hardware is how its demand pushes down on the hardware I can actually buy. Most people are in the sub $1000 market, and a large part of that is $500 or lower.
At that price, I think it straddles the line. It is super high end, but that's in the realm that consumers with more money than sense (me) will pay. It also isn't out of line with some high end devices from the past. For example a Roland SC-55 was $800 when it launched in 1991, so right about the same as $2k today. It also straddled the line: While people did buy it from music production, it wasn't actually one of Roland's pro products (they made keyboards and rackmounts with the same engine but more features) and it was marketed to, and purchased by, home enthusiasts. If you wanted the best MIDI music you could have, this was your thing. Same deal in other areas of audio (yes I'm obsessed with audio) like Sennheiser HD800S headphones: They are marketed to consumers, not professionals, who want an extremely comfortable headphone experience, and extremely good sound. Also about $2000.Sadly , it's not that easy. It doesn't have anything to compete in the high end which is where the mindshare is generally won. It also can't do much to stave off price gouging anymore than NVIDIA can. Lastly, I don't think they have the capacity to increase their availability all that much. AMD is about 10% or less of the market right now. I don't see that changing this generation.
I didn't think it really was at $2,000, much less the $2,600+ most of them were going for around launch.
Hate to break it to you but at the rate we are going nothing worth a dam will be under $1k this isn't the 00-20 anymore. For better or worse gaming went form a not to bad of a hobby to now a GPU cost more then a really really nice rifle but it is what it is. Doesn't mean I will limit myself I truly love PC gaming/building them and honestly a few thousand more here there really doesn't matter because I enjoy it and that's what 0% interest for a year cards are for. Now that said at current prices I don't think I would buy a 5090 as it's not worth the mark up on a 5080.I agree with the volume part. I disagree with the high end being where the mind is won.
I don't consider Toyota vehicles irrelevant because Lamborghini exists. My price point isn't Lamborghini, it's Honda, Toyota, Mazda and the like.
Point being, if the only market relevant to me is sub $1000, then that's all that is really relevant to me. I honestly don't care if a 5090 cost $2000 or $10000 or if AMD has a competitor in the $2000+ range. That's all out of my price range anyways. The most I care about 5090 class hardware is how its demand pushes down on the hardware I can actually buy. Most people are in the sub $1000 market, and a large part of that is $500 or lower.