5090 Production Halted

no nvidia is being some junk right now..I wouldn’t spend that even if I had it…and they’ll put a shitt doggy do unit on it..put the Solytech deer 400w unit on it see if it will trip…I don’t know what to tell just cause it’s overpriced doesn’t mean it’s good.
 
I would expect the entire stack to shift for 6xxx serise next year if they even come out in 2027. 6080 class card will be a 24gb will be the 6090. 6070 will be the new 6080 and so on. Gamers are not going to get the big chip anymore.
 
I would expect the entire stack to shift for 6xxx serise next year if they even come out in 2027. 6080 class card will be a 24gb will be the 6090. 6070 will be the new 6080 and so on. Gamers are not going to get the big chip anymore.
If Nvidia even makes a 5090 equilivent...
 
Just cause it’s overpriced doesn’t mean it’s good yeah they have drivers support and performance and less stuff crashes vs my vega56 1080 like reference. But I can deal with that it’s a badly coded game anyways that crashes ever in this day and age. And as far as memory posting problem I have dual rank is just hot doggy do right now and no not worth the high inflation of retail kits…an 8gb dimm is still an 8gb dimm you can perfectly be fine and let games use 3-4gb of ram..and let pagefile adjust..I could still run no pagefile if I wanted. But yeah I need a qvl retail dimm kit to try. Running the 16gb is a waste of a dimm still most of the time anyways..your powering wasting psu power for 1% gains…so no I just post in all bank. Yeah a 5050 probaly runs good but doesn’t mean I like the inflated price tag.
 

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I would be like OH NO!!!
But let's be honest, no gamer without serious cash to burn is dropping damned near $10k on a GPU.

The 5090s were going to AI farms, so this is basically just repackaging of those same 5090s, but instead of that extra $8000 going to the OEM, it's staying with Nvidia.
 

“Micro Center Reportedly Drops the RTX 5090 From Its Catalog as End-of-Life Rumors Pile Up​

by DrUsmanSaleem Today, 13:35 Discuss (2 Comments)
Micro Center seems to have quietly stopped selling the GeForce RTX 5090. Several RTX 5090 listings on the retailer's US website now show as "Not Carried," and a post on r/gpu claims every single one of them does. That label usually means a product has been dropped from the active catalog and won't be restocked. Custom models from ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte are still listed but out of stock at physical stores, and the only RTX 5090 reportedly still sitting on shelves at most locations is an ASUS ROG Astral sold inside a 20th Anniversary bundle for almost $11,000. Neither NVIDIA nor Micro Center has commented on the situation yet, and NVIDIA's own website still lists the RTX 5090 at the now-mythical price of $1,999.

Separately, Redditor johnnyphotog on r/Microcenter says staff were already pulling RTX 5090 cards from the shelves on October 9. Apparently, a manager told him the cards were being sent somewhere else, and while he did manage to buy one, an employee told him it was probably the last RTX 5090 the store would sell. That timing is interesting, since it came a day before leakers claimed NVIDIA stopped allocating GB202 silicon to the RTX 5090 and is saving it for far pricier workstation cards like the RTX PRO 5500. Of course, the MSRP of the RTX 5090 hasn't meant much for a while, with the card selling out at Walmart for $4,299 last month. If GB202 supply has really dried up, whatever partner stock is left will likely get even pricier, so readers set on buying one shouldn't expect prices to come down anytime soon.“
 
I wonder how much the power connector issues factored into the 5090 decision. Probably not a major factor, but I could hear someone in a Nvidia meeting saying something like "You know, in addition to these being more valuable to the data center markets, dumping the consumer 5090 product solves our 12VHPWR problem too."

Totally made up, but seems feasible to me. The 12VHPWR thing may have been the last straw. I've seen products die like this before.

Makes me curious about how the data center products are powered.
 
I think Intel left the GPU market at the worst possible time.... NVIDIA price gouging everyone... Means even a 3rd place company, selling at the right price becomes very competitive. I almost bought a B580 until I found a lightly-used 5070.
 

“Official NVIDIA Marketplace Seemingly Removes GeForce RTX 5090​

by AleksandarK Today, 11:10 Discuss (6 Comments)
NVIDIA's official marketplace, where gamers across the United States, Europe, Australia, and Asia could purchase GeForce RTX cards through NVIDIA's official channels, is showing more signs that the GeForce RTX 5090 might indeed be nearing its end of life. There are officially no more GeForce RTX 5090 graphics cards on the NVIDIA Marketplace, which suggests that previous rumors of this GPU being phased out might be accurate. NVIDIA has reportedly stopped allocating GB202 silicon to the GeForce RTX 5090, as this will remain exclusive to the 96 GB RTX PRO 6000. While this theory seemed plausible a week ago, NVIDIA's official withdrawal from the marketplace might confirm that this decision is indefinite, and enthusiasts may no longer be able to get a brand new GeForce RTX 5090 from any source.

At the same time, the PC Games Hardware website issued their own report suggesting that NVIDIA is indeed no longer allocating new GB202 processors for the RTX 5090, according to their OEM and ODM sources. NVIDIA's add-in card partners can continue manufacturing these cards, but only as long as their GB202 stock lasts. Once the GB202 supply runs out, NVIDIA will reportedly not send any more GB202 kits with GDDR7 memory for RTX 5090 graphics cards. This also applies to the GeForce RTX 5090 D and RTX 5090 D V2 SKUs that were previously designed for the Chinese market, meaning that everyone is facing a cut-off in their GeForce RTX 5090 supply.“
 
I think Intel left the GPU market at the worst possible time.... NVIDIA price gouging everyone... Means even a 3rd place company, selling at the right price becomes very competitive. I almost bought a B580 until I found a lightly-used 5070.

If AMD ever had a time to be as relevant in the gaming market, as they were since the ATI 9800/X850/X1900 days... it's right about now.
 
I wonder how much the power connector issues factored into the 5090 decision. Probably not a major factor, but I could hear someone in a Nvidia meeting saying something like "You know, in addition to these being more valuable to the data center markets, dumping the consumer 5090 product solves our 12VHPWR problem too."

Totally made up, but seems feasible to me. The 12VHPWR thing may have been the last straw. I've seen products die like this before.

Makes me curious about how the data center products are powered.
Rtx 6000 pro uses the same connector fwiw.
 
Yeah, glad I bought a 9070 (not XT) about 4-5 months ago for $600, and it included a "free" 850w asrock gold PSU too. Cheapest now is $700.

I kept the PSU as a backup unit. It's a B+ rated unit on that large PSU database.

I know a lot here are high end enthusiasts, but man the 9070 does well at 1440p with settings notched up pretty high.
 
Rtx 6000 pro uses the same connector fwiw.
On a quick search I could not find any good high res pictures of the PCB. There is a Gamersnexus tear down video and the board looks the same as the 5090. Like Buildzoid observed on the 5090, it looks like there is only one shunt. Any reported burned connectors on these?

While a hack, a fan blowing on the connector will help it survive. If these are used in servers with very good airflow, that may prevent the failures seen on 5090s in consumer quality cases.
 
On a quick search I could not find any good high res pictures of the PCB. There is a Gamersnexus tear down video and the board looks the same as the 5090. Like Buildzoid observed on the 5090, it looks like there is only one shunt. Any reported burned connectors on these?

While a hack, a fan blowing on the connector will help it survive. If these are used in servers with very good airflow, that may prevent the failures seen on 5090s in consumer quality cases.
That's why I have kept my Antec 1100 so long, 2 120 mm fans directed squarely on the side of the GPU. Though I still sold my 5090 when it reached 5.5k, just didn't make sense to keep it.
 
If AMD ever had a time to be as relevant in the gaming market, as they were since the ATI 9800/X850/X1900 days... it's right about now.
Sadly , it's not that easy. It doesn't have anything to compete in the high end which is where the mindshare is generally won. It also can't do much to stave off price gouging anymore than NVIDIA can. Lastly, I don't think they have the capacity to increase their availability all that much. AMD is about 10% or less of the market right now. I don't see that changing this generation.
It's not a consumer graphics card anymore at these prices.
I didn't think it really was at $2,000, much less the $2,600+ most of them were going for around launch.
 
so the answer is:

buy a PC (that comes pre-built with the 5090 !!)
Sadly , it's not that easy. It doesn't have anything to compete in the high end which is where the mindshare is generally won. It also can't do much to stave off price gouging anymore than NVIDIA can. Lastly, I don't think they have the capacity to increase their availability all that much. AMD is about 10% or less of the market right now. I don't see that changing this generation.

I didn't think it really was at $2,000, much less the $2,600+ most of them were going for around launch.

“NVIDIA Denies RTX 5090 Discontinuation Reports; Jeff Fisher Confirms Flagship GPU Will Continue Shipping”​

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-denies-rtx-5090-discontinuation-reports/
 
Sadly , it's not that easy. It doesn't have anything to compete in the high end which is where the mindshare is generally won. It also can't do much to stave off price gouging anymore than NVIDIA can. Lastly, I don't think they have the capacity to increase their availability all that much. AMD is about 10% or less of the market right now. I don't see that changing this generation.

I didn't think it really was at $2,000, much less the $2,600+ most of them were going for around launch.

I agree with the volume part. I disagree with the high end being where the mind is won.

I don't consider Toyota vehicles irrelevant because Lamborghini exists. My price point isn't Lamborghini, it's Honda, Toyota, Mazda and the like.

Point being, if the only market relevant to me is sub $1000, then that's all that is really relevant to me. I honestly don't care if a 5090 cost $2000 or $10000 or if AMD has a competitor in the $2000+ range. That's all out of my price range anyways. The most I care about 5090 class hardware is how its demand pushes down on the hardware I can actually buy. Most people are in the sub $1000 market, and a large part of that is $500 or lower.
 
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I agree with the volume part. I disagree with the high end being where the mind is won.

I don't consider Toyota vehicles irrelevant because Lamborghini exists. My price point isn't Lamborghini, it's Honda, Toyota, Mazda and the like.

Point being, if the only market relevant to me is sub $1000, then that's all that is really relevant to me. I honestly don't care if a 5090 cost $2000 or $10000 or if AMD has a competitor in the $2000+ range. That's all out of my price range anyways. The most I care about 5090 class hardware is how it's demand pushes down on the hardware I can actually buy. Most people are in the sub $1000 market, and a large part of that is $500 or lower.
Those "economic cars" now like the Toyota Corolla and Honda Civics have the starting price of 25-30k. The Toyota freaking Camry is 35k. Rav4? Because it has low stock like GPUs, its 45k for the basic bare bones trim. *(TTL included in price calculations)*
Sub 1k GPU use to include the top of the line GTX X080 class. Now sub 1k GPUs is the base RTX X070 and soon X060 will be $700.
The Sub $500 club is not going to own their GPUs, they will be renting it via game streaming.
 
I agree with the volume part. I disagree with the high end being where the mind is won.

I don't consider Toyota vehicles irrelevant because Lamborghini exists. My price point isn't Lamborghini, it's Honda, Toyota, Mazda and the like.

Point being, if the only market relevant to me is sub $1000, then that's all that is really relevant to me. I honestly don't care if a 5090 cost $2000 or $10000 or if AMD has a competitor in the $2000+ range. That's all out of my price range anyways. The most I care about 5090 class hardware is how its demand pushes down on the hardware I can actually buy. Most people are in the sub $1000 market, and a large part of that is $500 or lower.
Not true. I think within certain brands, the flagship is what sets the tone for the rest of the lineup. People might correctly, or incorrectly assume that because NVIDIA has the fastest GPU's at the top of the stack, that holds true for the rest of the lineup. When most people think of Chevrolet, it's not the spark, or the Volt they think of. It's the Corvette or at least a high end Silverado or something. Not the Equinox. I think of Ford I think of F-150's and Mustangs. Not the crappy Mach-E or other BS they make.

In any event, whether its entirely relevant or not, there are people who don't look at mid-range or lower end offerings for their needs. Price be (mostly) dammed, I only ever really look at the top two GPU's in the NVIDIA or AMD lineup. I couldn't care less about the rest of them. The only time I do, is if I suddenly need one for another system or my next laptop or something.
 
Sadly , it's not that easy. It doesn't have anything to compete in the high end which is where the mindshare is generally won. It also can't do much to stave off price gouging anymore than NVIDIA can. Lastly, I don't think they have the capacity to increase their availability all that much. AMD is about 10% or less of the market right now. I don't see that changing this generation.

I didn't think it really was at $2,000, much less the $2,600+ most of them were going for around launch.
At that price, I think it straddles the line. It is super high end, but that's in the realm that consumers with more money than sense (me) will pay. It also isn't out of line with some high end devices from the past. For example a Roland SC-55 was $800 when it launched in 1991, so right about the same as $2k today. It also straddled the line: While people did buy it from music production, it wasn't actually one of Roland's pro products (they made keyboards and rackmounts with the same engine but more features) and it was marketed to, and purchased by, home enthusiasts. If you wanted the best MIDI music you could have, this was your thing. Same deal in other areas of audio (yes I'm obsessed with audio) like Sennheiser HD800S headphones: They are marketed to consumers, not professionals, who want an extremely comfortable headphone experience, and extremely good sound. Also about $2000.

Like they were a silly halo product, don't get me wrong, but I think still in the realm of high end consumer. But at like $9k? Nah. Now you've entered the commercial-only market. Doesn't mean there exists no consumers that would buy them, but it is pretty vanishingly rare. It's Quadro priced now. I mean hell, I think if I had that kind of money to blow, I'd be tempted to get the 96GB variant for like $20k because why the fuck not?
 
I agree with the volume part. I disagree with the high end being where the mind is won.

I don't consider Toyota vehicles irrelevant because Lamborghini exists. My price point isn't Lamborghini, it's Honda, Toyota, Mazda and the like.

Point being, if the only market relevant to me is sub $1000, then that's all that is really relevant to me. I honestly don't care if a 5090 cost $2000 or $10000 or if AMD has a competitor in the $2000+ range. That's all out of my price range anyways. The most I care about 5090 class hardware is how its demand pushes down on the hardware I can actually buy. Most people are in the sub $1000 market, and a large part of that is $500 or lower.
Hate to break it to you but at the rate we are going nothing worth a dam will be under $1k this isn't the 00-20 anymore. For better or worse gaming went form a not to bad of a hobby to now a GPU cost more then a really really nice rifle but it is what it is. Doesn't mean I will limit myself I truly love PC gaming/building them and honestly a few thousand more here there really doesn't matter because I enjoy it and that's what 0% interest for a year cards are for. Now that said at current prices I don't think I would buy a 5090 as it's not worth the mark up on a 5080.
 
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