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From what I read it was a 3800 at 5.1ghz and sounded like the ultimate amd.
Now they don't even mention it.
From what I read it was a 3800 at 5.1ghz and sounded like the ultimate amd.
Now they don't even mention it.
Unfounded yes, but that's what they needed to actually be an upgrade from zen+. The best description of zen 2 is, it's not slower. The twelve core is pretty cool too for people who can load 24 threads, but with the node shrink I was really hoping.There were rumors about Zen 2 having at least one part with 16 cores and hitting clock speeds of 5.0GHz or better. These were absolutely unfounded. I can't believe anyone fell for that in the first place.
Unfounded yes, but that's what they needed to actually be an upgrade from zen+. The best description of zen 2 is, it's not slower. The twelve core is pretty cool too for people who can load 24 threads, but with the node shrink I was really hoping.
5ghz seems to be the silicon stone wall. I bet zen2 will oc up there with proper cooling.
if thats the case then all I have to do is decide 3800 or 3900. For everyday task and gaming would the 3800 be the better choice?
well can't wait for reviews, anyone got any idea when we can expect some?
I think the 570 will be amazing.
But still all the info out there seems to point to the eventual release of the 16/32 chip. AMD would be foolish to play their whole card right now as they currently have the upper hand and intel doesn't have much of an answer.There were rumors about Zen 2 having at least one part with 16 cores and hitting clock speeds of 5.0GHz or better. These were absolutely unfounded. I can't believe anyone fell for that in the first place.
The thing is, AMD is doing allot with Zen 2. They are increasing core counts and IPC substantially. The fact that they managed to increase clock speeds at all is actually something of a miracle while doing everything else. 12 cores and 4.6GHz boost clocks speeds with a 105 watt TDP is quite impressive. The thing is, its extremely difficult to increase clock speeds, keep the old TDP and improve IPC. Generally IPC improvements and clock speed increases don't happen together at all, much less to the massive degree the rumor suggested. That's why I never believed it.
That said, we do not know what, if any overclocking headroom these CPU's have. My guess is that they'll have next to no headroom and the best we can hope for is to level the boost clock across all the cores at once much like we do with Threadripper and Ryzen 2000 series CPU's now. We might even have to drop slightly below the boost clock to do that, but we'll see. I'm still trying to get sampled on these things.
Let me guess - is OP a WCCFtech or Adored TV fan?
I love how some of these websites just post random garbage clickbait and when reality drops and doesn't match the fiction, people are surprised.
But still all the info out there seems to point to the eventual release of the 16/32 chip. AMD would be foolish to play their whole card right now as they currently have the upper hand and intel doesn't have much of an answer.
Plus the 16 core steps on TR a bit. But surely it will see thelight of day (my opinion)
There were rumors about Zen 2 having at least one part with 16 cores and hitting clock speeds of 5.0GHz or better. These were absolutely unfounded. I can't believe anyone fell for that in the first place.
The thing is, AMD is doing allot with Zen 2. They are increasing core counts and IPC substantially. The fact that they managed to increase clock speeds at all is actually something of a miracle while doing everything else. 12 cores and 4.6GHz boost clocks speeds with a 105 watt TDP is quite impressive. The thing is, its extremely difficult to increase clock speeds, keep the old TDP and improve IPC. Generally IPC improvements and clock speed increases don't happen together at all, much less to the massive degree the rumor suggested. That's why I never believed it.
That said, we do not know what, if any overclocking headroom these CPU's have. My guess is that they'll have next to no headroom and the best we can hope for is to level the boost clock across all the cores at once much like we do with Threadripper and Ryzen 2000 series CPU's now. We might even have to drop slightly below the boost clock to do that, but we'll see. I'm still trying to get sampled on these things.
I'm working with motherboard vendors to get X570 samples which aren't available yet and won't be for at least a couple weeks or more. Reviewers aren't often left with much time ahead of launches to work with the hardware.
Hmmmm, why do you need a board, Dan? Working on the Hardocp review?
He is involved in another website in fairness to him...
Let me guess - is OP a WCCFtech or Adored TV fan?
I love how some of these websites just post random garbage clickbait and when reality drops and doesn't match the fiction, people are surprised.
I am just surprised that Adored managed to dupe so many tech sites into publishing his fake "leaks".
For someone not closely following PC tech, the "leaks" might have seem convincing, but writers working for tech sites should have known better and it should have been obvious that the "leaks" were fake.
Well, now we can sleep well at night knowing that you and your banned alter-ego _mockingbird are here to protect us .
It is just not you that does not know what the word speculation meansI am just surprised that Adored managed to dupe so many tech sites into publishing his fake "leaks".
For someone not closely following PC tech, the "leaks" might have seem convincing, but writers working for tech sites should have known better and it should have been obvious that the "leaks" were fake.
You mean mockingbird from AnandTech?
No, that's not me.
My old username was "PeterScott", if you want to check.
The moderator on AnandTech banned 10+ people for rightfully calling out AdoredTV. (basically, the holocaust of free thinkers)
Me and a few other users here are refugees.
It is just not you that does not know what the word speculation means
Well unless I am mistaken _mockingbird got banned for the same thing over here. So much for defending your past mistakes ...
Did he? He has juicy accurate inside info on rtg. Ffs.It is just not you that does not know what the word speculation means
Well unless I am mistaken _mockingbird got banned for the same thing over here. So much for defending your past mistakes ...
For sure I don't think it will have that clock speed. But I do believe we will sit it. Agree with you though Intel currently has no answer for the 12 core so AMD would be foolish to release it now.Yes, this is true. However, such a part isn't going to be clocked at 5.1GHz or anything like that. I'd wager that its probably clocked at 4.6GHz (boost) or less. As you said, it steps on Threadripper and right now AMD doesn't even need the part in its mainstream offerings. Intel has nothing to combat a 4.6GHz 12c/24t Ryzen part if the IPC improvement is accurate.
TGenerally IPC improvements and clock speed increases don't happen together in these days
Unfounded yes, but that's what they needed to actually be an upgrade from zen+. The best description of zen 2 is, it's not slower. The twelve core is pretty cool too for people who can load 24 threads, but with the node shrink I was really hoping.
5ghz seems to be the silicon stone wall. I bet zen2 will oc up there with proper cooling.
(basically, the holocaust of free thinkers)
I was referring to 5ghz, not 16c.Unfounded? They were showing a 16c am4 part at computex, so the details may have been off but there is definitely 16c am4 part coming. Only question is when.
fixed that for you. us old timers remember when a new generation of cpu was both clock increase. ipc increase and a smaller architecture.
we called it the MEGATICKTACKTOE strategy.... ok last part was BS but still
Any book burnings you want to promote?AdoredTV's contents should be banned from this forum for good.
All it is good for is to create conflicts among users.
There are many YouTube channels that value integrity over viewers count.
It helps if you post links in such discussions I find that people can't turn it around on you and start whatever their agenda dictates ..So unless these companies just made up the numbers, they were given something that was either not correct or not going into production.
No it is not life will go on as usual. It won't change things that much it is just that you are feeling anticipation towards something you might want to purchase or skip, what helps is to ignore it all together even after reviews and see how well it goes for others.All that said it's waiting for reviews that is painful
where did this crap come from...the 3850 was bs and now the 3950 again junk.
Read the experts above.
where did this crap come from...the 3850 was bs and now the 3950 again junk.
Read the experts above.