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Jesus.. why can't people wipe the lens off before taking pics anymore. I see those streaks in camera comparisons/reviews all the time because the shooters can't comprehend that all those streaks and blur are due to oil on the lens. It's almost instinctual for me to wipe my camera lens off before I even try to take a pic with my phone and I don't even use my phone camera often enough to care about which phone has the best camera.
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According to the Asahi Shimbun, a Japanese newspaper, pre-orders/ interest registrations for the Samsung Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge in Japan is 8 million, higher than the numbers for the iPhone 6.
I can't read Japanese but this is what my Japanese co-workers have told me. And we all know how patriotic Japanese are when buying foreign products. But it seems like in Japan a desire for technological advancement has taken over patriotism this time around.
The Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge actually got a huge response in Japan because it's viewed as more technologically advanced compared to the iPhone 6 and other phones.
Ref: Japanese WSJ article
Some other Japanese news sites going crazy over the Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge:
http://jp.wsj.com/articles/SB11785226218567734557404580492712437356860
http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/310/310356/
http://japanese.joins.com/article/241/197241.html
The Japanese sure like their advanced tech.
Or MAYBE they just wanted to buy something that was super hot looking... the S6 (esp. the Edge variant) is IMO, MUCH better looking than the iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 is actually quite ugly... especially those STUPID lines on the rear of the device. Yuck. The 5 and 5s were much prettier phones.
Holy cow, I can't take it anymore. Am I living in the twilight zone or something ? All the nerds creaming their pants over the Galaxy S6, and tech sites claiming it's the best Android smartphone ever created by man. Blah, blah, blah 
Get a grip people, it isn't all that, your just fooled by the metal and glass.
It's funny sad how people diss the One M9 for being the same boring metal design as the M8, but Samsung finally comes out with a metal and glass built phone, and it's the second coming of Jesus. I ask this, put a case on the S6 or even the M9, and that beautiful metal design is almost instantly lost an forgotten with that case on. And the majority of the public does indeed slap cases on their phones.
And then that leaves what you actually see and use daily, which is the OS and UI itself, not the fancy glass back or cool blue colors of the phone, but the actual operation of Touchwiz or Sense or Vanilla Android. And IMO Tocuhwiz still sucks, they just removed some pre-installed apps, but it's still the same ol Touchwiz from like the Note 4 running Lollipop, meaning same icons, same messed up menu not matching stock Android's menus whatsoever, still taking up a lot of RAM space. Where's this all new Touchwiz supposedly like a Nexus OS ? LOL, was never gonna happen.
And then look at what Samsung removed;
- No more water resistance
- No more removable battery
- No more SD Card slot
- Smaller battery
- But hey, it's now metal and glass on the back and super thin = sexy Android phone
I guess my point is, I am shocked at how tech geeks get sucked in with the metal and glass design and give a pass on the same ol Touchwiz or smaller battery, or no more waterproof. But because the S6 is an iPhone like design, it's awesome now all of a sudden. And then I am also surprised how superficial people are, that HTC keeps the award winning design of the M8, with the M9, and now that phone sucks, even though it has a faster processor, more RAM, better camera, bigger battery, new OS, new UI. But because it looks the same as last years model, it blows
Get a grip people, it isn't all that, your just fooled by the metal and glass.It's funny sad how people diss the One M9 for being the same boring metal design as the M8, but Samsung finally comes out with a metal and glass built phone, and it's the second coming of Jesus. I ask this, put a case on the S6 or even the M9, and that beautiful metal design is almost instantly lost an forgotten with that case on. And the majority of the public does indeed slap cases on their phones.
And then that leaves what you actually see and use daily, which is the OS and UI itself, not the fancy glass back or cool blue colors of the phone, but the actual operation of Touchwiz or Sense or Vanilla Android. And IMO Tocuhwiz still sucks, they just removed some pre-installed apps, but it's still the same ol Touchwiz from like the Note 4 running Lollipop, meaning same icons, same messed up menu not matching stock Android's menus whatsoever, still taking up a lot of RAM space. Where's this all new Touchwiz supposedly like a Nexus OS ? LOL, was never gonna happen.
And then look at what Samsung removed;
- No more water resistance
- No more removable battery
- No more SD Card slot
- Smaller battery
- But hey, it's now metal and glass on the back and super thin = sexy Android phone
I guess my point is, I am shocked at how tech geeks get sucked in with the metal and glass design and give a pass on the same ol Touchwiz or smaller battery, or no more waterproof. But because the S6 is an iPhone like design, it's awesome now all of a sudden. And then I am also surprised how superficial people are, that HTC keeps the award winning design of the M8, with the M9, and now that phone sucks, even though it has a faster processor, more RAM, better camera, bigger battery, new OS, new UI. But because it looks the same as last years model, it blows
I have been very consistent in what I place as more important for a phone and what features I consider gimmicks, Zorachus. So let me answer your points.
One, it's not waterproof. It's merely a higher level of water resistance. If you still cannot go swimming, taking a shower, or leaving it in your pockets during a wash, this higher level of marketing is useless to me. You can take phone calls with almost every phone in the rain. You can drop almost any phone in a puddle of water for minutes if not hours, and the phone will survive without the IP57 rating. So I say who cares. I would like a phone to be able to go 5ATM under water. That I would say would be useful. (Update: It would be useful for me to wash my phone in a dishwasher for example.)
Two, if the battery already lasts more than a day, then why is this important? Sure, if you can come up with a premium design and have removable batteries, I'm all for it. I also still prefer external battery packs than a replacement for daily recharging. Battery packs are universal and less waste. Battery packs do not require me to power off my phone. And like many people already said here, replacing their battery is just something they don't do; hence, it's another gimmick. (And I called it that before too!) Where it's really useful is when your battery is about to die for good, you can easily replace it instead of taking it to a shop. But then 3rd party iPhone repair shops could do it for $40 if not less (Apple Stores do it for $80.)
Three, when you already have sufficient enough of memory and it doesn't cost that much to get a higher capacity, who cares? Although in this particular case, Samsung is charging like Apple does... So I can't completely get behind it. The only thing that I could say is that this is using UFS now. But it's still too much. I think I could barely survive on the base model 32GB... Maybe not! But not having microSD is definitely not that high on my priority list. I've got unlimited data and I'm almost always on wifi, so I got the cloud.
Four, this is almost the same base argument from two. If the battery already lasts more than a day, who cares? Now, I don't know how long this phone really lasts in real world tests. It's seems like it doesn't last that long, hence Samsung was talking a whole lot about quick charging and wireless charging. So, yes, I'll agree with you on this point, since there's also no real reason to go that thin.
Five, one of Samsung's biggest problem was that its old models were ugly as hell. Samsung made it look more like an iPhone 4, 5, and 6, so Samsung does deserve to be praised. Like with HTC One M7, it can be useful and sexy. So I really don't understand this argument from you.
And what you leave out is the user experience, all signs still point to TouchWiz still sucking despite them removing a shitload of gimmicks. So I'm still waiting for an official review of the new TouchWiz, if it's truly that bad, I'm also avoiding it. (Update: I hope it's just the people's distrust of Samsung more than it actually sucking.)
Another thing, for me at least, is that going without my front facing speakers might be really tough. I went from a One M7 to a Nexus 5, and I had to quickly get the M8. I watch so many videos in bed that I need a great sound experience.
In conclusion, 3 of your first 5 points are just gimmicks that we don't really need. I agree with your 1 point about a smaller battery. And your last point is just not a good argument to begin with. You also missed a point on how TouchWiz might still suck. Being a tech geek, I look past the gimmicks and the marketing. So I don't know what you're talking about being disappointed in us...
One, it's not waterproof. It's merely a higher level of water resistance. If you still cannot go swimming, taking a shower, or leaving it in your pockets during a wash, this higher level of marketing is useless to me. You can take phone calls with almost every phone in the rain. You can drop almost any phone in a puddle of water for minutes if not hours, and the phone will survive without the IP57 rating. So I say who cares. I would like a phone to be able to go 5ATM under water. That I would say would be useful. (Update: It would be useful for me to wash my phone in a dishwasher for example.)
Two, if the battery already lasts more than a day, then why is this important? Sure, if you can come up with a premium design and have removable batteries, I'm all for it. I also still prefer external battery packs than a replacement for daily recharging. Battery packs are universal and less waste. Battery packs do not require me to power off my phone. And like many people already said here, replacing their battery is just something they don't do; hence, it's another gimmick. (And I called it that before too!) Where it's really useful is when your battery is about to die for good, you can easily replace it instead of taking it to a shop. But then 3rd party iPhone repair shops could do it for $40 if not less (Apple Stores do it for $80.)
Three, when you already have sufficient enough of memory and it doesn't cost that much to get a higher capacity, who cares? Although in this particular case, Samsung is charging like Apple does... So I can't completely get behind it. The only thing that I could say is that this is using UFS now. But it's still too much. I think I could barely survive on the base model 32GB... Maybe not! But not having microSD is definitely not that high on my priority list. I've got unlimited data and I'm almost always on wifi, so I got the cloud.
Four, this is almost the same base argument from two. If the battery already lasts more than a day, who cares? Now, I don't know how long this phone really lasts in real world tests. It's seems like it doesn't last that long, hence Samsung was talking a whole lot about quick charging and wireless charging. So, yes, I'll agree with you on this point, since there's also no real reason to go that thin.
Five, one of Samsung's biggest problem was that its old models were ugly as hell. Samsung made it look more like an iPhone 4, 5, and 6, so Samsung does deserve to be praised. Like with HTC One M7, it can be useful and sexy. So I really don't understand this argument from you.
And what you leave out is the user experience, all signs still point to TouchWiz still sucking despite them removing a shitload of gimmicks. So I'm still waiting for an official review of the new TouchWiz, if it's truly that bad, I'm also avoiding it. (Update: I hope it's just the people's distrust of Samsung more than it actually sucking.)
Another thing, for me at least, is that going without my front facing speakers might be really tough. I went from a One M7 to a Nexus 5, and I had to quickly get the M8. I watch so many videos in bed that I need a great sound experience.
In conclusion, 3 of your first 5 points are just gimmicks that we don't really need. I agree with your 1 point about a smaller battery. And your last point is just not a good argument to begin with. You also missed a point on how TouchWiz might still suck. Being a tech geek, I look past the gimmicks and the marketing. So I don't know what you're talking about being disappointed in us...
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Good god that's one hideous phone. Better than the S5 though.
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Interest registrations are NOT preorders. Those are just when people dump an email address into the "tell me more" link on a website.
Because you want to play Angry Birds while literally decompressing?
I'm not really a mobile junkie, so I hope you'll pardon my naive question. But what makes a review "official"?
Getting a little annoyed with all the "Touchwiz still sucks" comments. How does anyone know this yet? Think about it. I think everyone is getting their panties in a wad because AESTHETICALLY, it doesn't look like TW has changed all that much. But who gives a shit? This is Android people. We can customize the aesthetics to our hearts content. Where people really find fault with TW, and to which I agree with, is in the operation of it. Namely the fact that in practice, it feels slower and more sluggish then vanilla android and other skins like Sense. That hate I get and can sympathize with. But here's the thing, we don't yet know what TW feels like on the S6. The reviews are not out yet. So in that regard, I'm willing to take a wait and see approach just like I am with regards to the battery life.
Those who spout, the standard tag line of "TW still sucks" BEFORE any testing, just come off sounding like fanboys who want to perpetuate whatever stereotypes they hold dear.
True tech enthusiasts will be more agnostic when it comes brand loyalty. Companies, just like people, evolve. Sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse.
Those who spout, the standard tag line of "TW still sucks" BEFORE any testing, just come off sounding like fanboys who want to perpetuate whatever stereotypes they hold dear.
True tech enthusiasts will be more agnostic when it comes brand loyalty. Companies, just like people, evolve. Sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse.
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What about performance testing on these devices to determine :
which last the longest
which muti-task the best
which overheat after x_hours
which works best with graphics
which has best CPU
etc.,
etc.,
which last the longest
which muti-task the best
which overheat after x_hours
which works best with graphics
which has best CPU
etc.,
etc.,
People say that to make them feel better about buying _____ (fill in the blank with HTC, Apple, etc.) I've run vanilla Android (Cyanogenmod) in place of Touchwiz and always go back because there's very little if any difference in performance but lose useful and unique features. iOS is lacking in the same way too. It's like people who boot into Windows safe mode because they think it's faster.
This is so true. I've never owned a Samsung device in my life and hated most of them before I saw how the Note 4 turned out. Most people get stuck on one bad experience from 20 years ago and never change their attitudes. I only care about who has the best product today.
Some preliminary wireless and mobile signal reviews are also out. The "previews" shows that what Samsung put in these exynos still have a way to go to match Qualcomm's offerings. Like with TouchWiz sucking, I still await official long reviews of the release phones. None of these reviews/previews are based on release phone because it's not on sale yet. So we still have weeks to go before we could dish out final judgment.
P.S. It's been proven that even the TW in the Note 4 sucks (in terms of lag). I posted a link before. So if you're going to defend TW based on us using old information from 25 years ago, you're just insane.
P.S. It's been proven that even the TW in the Note 4 sucks (in terms of lag). I posted a link before. So if you're going to defend TW based on us using old information from 25 years ago, you're just insane.
here's one positive thing about new touchwiz
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s6-themes-let-you-take-control-touchwiz
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s6-themes-let-you-take-control-touchwiz
i own note 4 and only real complain i have against TW is lag when you press multitask key
and somewhat slow camera launch time.
from videos i've seen of s6 and s6 edge, Samsung seemed to have fixed em
of course we don't know for sure yet
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What is it with the edge? It looks worse and adds pretty much nothing. The regular S6 looks pretty good, but let's hope Samsung thought this through. Smaller battery and a higher resolution display, that arguably adds nothing at that size. If they managed to still have good battery life I'll be impressed.
That was the link I posted... and I take it a proof that TW is laggy. PA's claim is that it's not as laggy as some people portrays it... but how does PA know how laggy people think it is. It's totally subjective, but there is proof that it's slower despite being on better hardware.
yea but it's not that far behind stock android
and to be fair, stock android is faster than all other varations of android ( sense/tw etc..)
like i said earlier, only real hiccup on note 4 is multitask key lag from my personal experience
What exactly do you mean by it's "not that far behind" ? All I know is that it's clearly behind, and this is the best example of TouchWiz to date. (GS6 is still not really out yet.) We don't even need to test the TouchWiz on the GS5, because it's absolutely atrocious; I couldn't live with a GS5. I've used the Note 4 for a little, and I do notice it was much improved but still slower. I definitely don't hate the Note 4.
And we know that stock is faster than Sense 6 or even Moto Blur (is it still called blur?) how? I await PA to do the test on the M8 and the Moto X 2014, if they will ever test them. I hear some people suggest that Sense and Moto whatever seem faster than Stock. But then again, PA gets paid to spin Samsung to a positive light... So I doubt PA will release the test results...
Once again, I'll reiterate what I said when I started this thread. I really do hope TouchWiz is good this time around. And I also hope that the reports we're seeing from MWC that TouchWiz is still slower compared to stock is just people's distrust of Samsung or that Samsung is still fixing things. I am waiting for proper review of the release phone. Looking at the screenshots of all the UI changes, I do think the new TouchWiz looks a whole lot better. But the question is does it lag. If it still lags despite being on better hardware all over (like all frigging over), this would be extremely disappointing. Samsung needs to hire better software engineers!
Look at this video from PhoneArena of the new TouchWiz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hrA5EN-TRA
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-display-new-TouchWiz-camera-and-more_id66806
They talk about the lag and hope it will be fixed by release... We are NOT making this shit up!
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Hope springs eternal.
we all know the answer to this one.
See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hrA5EN-TRA
This is from PhoneArena... We aren't making this shit up.
While I agree that it's not as smooth as stock, I just think the TW hate is overblown hyperbole at this point. TW is messy and lags a bit sure, but most of the videos I've seen of the S6 seem pretty snappy with the occasional hangup. Would I like S6 with a lighter skin like blur or sense, yeah absolutely, but I haven't seen anything that terrible that will prevent me from getting one.
THAT SAID... For the hardware in the S6, I do feel like it should fly a little faster, but I'm starting to think a lot of that inst so much lag as much as animations. Think there needs to be better transitions
The GS6 hardware is better performing than anything out there right now, and it still lags. I hope Samsung fix it before release. Otherwise, it seems like Samsung is just using better hardware to make the lag go away instead of fixing it through the software. HTC, Motorola, and even LG have made their skins not suck... So does Samsung just not care about software? Why can't the hardware be the greatest and also have an awesome skin? It's not mutually exclusive! Heck, the biggest reason why Samsung ditched Qualcomm and spread FUD about it is probably that TouchWiz is still slow with a Snapdragon 810. Once again, Samsung says that they are still fixing things, so I'll wait and assume that they'll fix it by release, or else I'm skipping this as well as the rest of the Snapdragon 810 phones.
P.S. I am skipping S810 because Qualcomm basically admits that it's shit that they had to quickly come up with thanks to Apple... I'll wait for the true Qualcomm contender with the Kryo CPU (krait successor) in the Snapdragon 820. Exynos or A8/9 all the way for this generation.
Seems like the perceived lag is psychological because the product isn't even out yet. Wasted effort to imagine issues as an excuse for things you can't get.
How come you're conveniently ignoring HTC M8 lag or, worse case, typical poor quality:
http://youtu.be/7oCDbrru8SU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2720551
No product is perfect. Even iPhone lags so lets cut out the bull crap noise.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1790320
How come you're conveniently ignoring HTC M8 lag or, worse case, typical poor quality:
http://youtu.be/7oCDbrru8SU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2720551
No product is perfect. Even iPhone lags so lets cut out the bull crap noise.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1790320
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Way to take malfunctioning phones and compare it to the shit that is TouchWiz on ALL Galaxy phones...
Two can play this same game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isM8_kKmYLA
OMG! All Samsung phones suck! /s
And I'm sure those guys over at PhoneArena don't know what they are talking about when they imagined that they tested the GS6 on display at MWC (that's got to be some good CGI they used to "film" it). PhoneArena should be completely ignored due to their pro-Apple bias... /s (Is this like Fox News saying that they are fair and balanced, and pro-Democrat?) Your TTL logic never cease to astound me.
Once again, I'm not taking this one PhoneArena video hands-on as dogma. I look forward to a full complete review about the new TouchWiz on the final release hardware and software. I hope Samsung fixes things, tell Flipboard to optimize better, etc, etc. I certainly wish that TouchWiz would be great this time around, if not... I'll wait for the iPhone 6S Plus...
Two can play this same game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isM8_kKmYLA
OMG! All Samsung phones suck! /s
And I'm sure those guys over at PhoneArena don't know what they are talking about when they imagined that they tested the GS6 on display at MWC (that's got to be some good CGI they used to "film" it). PhoneArena should be completely ignored due to their pro-Apple bias... /s (Is this like Fox News saying that they are fair and balanced, and pro-Democrat?) Your TTL logic never cease to astound me.
Once again, I'm not taking this one PhoneArena video hands-on as dogma. I look forward to a full complete review about the new TouchWiz on the final release hardware and software. I hope Samsung fixes things, tell Flipboard to optimize better, etc, etc. I certainly wish that TouchWiz would be great this time around, if not... I'll wait for the iPhone 6S Plus...
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Just got to use a bunch of brand new Galaxy S5's at work, and HOLY SHIT THOSE PHONES SUCKS BALLS, AND TOUCHWIZ IS A DISASTER OF A MESS.
I know the S5 is a year old, but my work just got a bunch of new S5's for the office today, and I had to set them up, and holy Jesus, does the S5 Touchwiz UI just blow. It felt like something from an S3 made three years ago. Super laggy, very ugly and outdated looking UI, like something from the Android 2.1 days.
I seriously had to check the phones, to make sure they were indeed S5's and not some S4 or older phone. They just felt so slow, ugly looking OS.
Granted, this is a fresh out of the box Sprint Galaxy S5, so it's needs updating, and a brand new phone is always laggy during setup, etc... But my God it just felt like an awful experience. No frigging way would I take an S5 for free. Just makes phones like the OnePlus One feel like light years apart, phones following more of the stock vanilla Android OS seems so much lighter, smoother, and overall look nicer. Why did Samsung keep this butt ugly Gingerbread theme in Touchwiz, even on the S5 ? And the menu is confusing on the S5, not straightforward like stock Android.
My point is, the new S6 better have a majorly revised Touchwiz, and completely all new UI, otherwise I don't care if the S6 is made from diamonds and sapphires, the Touchwiz UI will bring it down, if it's anything remotely close to horrible S5 Touchwiz.
I know the S5 is a year old, but my work just got a bunch of new S5's for the office today, and I had to set them up, and holy Jesus, does the S5 Touchwiz UI just blow. It felt like something from an S3 made three years ago. Super laggy, very ugly and outdated looking UI, like something from the Android 2.1 days.
I seriously had to check the phones, to make sure they were indeed S5's and not some S4 or older phone. They just felt so slow, ugly looking OS.
Granted, this is a fresh out of the box Sprint Galaxy S5, so it's needs updating, and a brand new phone is always laggy during setup, etc... But my God it just felt like an awful experience. No frigging way would I take an S5 for free. Just makes phones like the OnePlus One feel like light years apart, phones following more of the stock vanilla Android OS seems so much lighter, smoother, and overall look nicer. Why did Samsung keep this butt ugly Gingerbread theme in Touchwiz, even on the S5 ? And the menu is confusing on the S5, not straightforward like stock Android.
My point is, the new S6 better have a majorly revised Touchwiz, and completely all new UI, otherwise I don't care if the S6 is made from diamonds and sapphires, the Touchwiz UI will bring it down, if it's anything remotely close to horrible S5 Touchwiz.
To be fair, the only actual concrete example the Phone Arena guys references is the Flipboard app. And yes, on every Samsung phone I've ever seen, there's always a hitch when that app starts up. But I'll be damned if that's not the very first thing I disable on every Samsung phone I've been given to help set up. That thing is next to useless. If that's the only thing that lags then I can live with that because that takes all of of 2.6 seconds to fix.
Does anybody actually keep that stupid thing? It's like Blinkfeed on the One line. Do you guys actually keep that running?
Does anybody actually keep that stupid thing? It's like Blinkfeed on the One line. Do you guys actually keep that running?
Blinkfeed runs fine on my phone. No lag. I can swipe in and out of it without any issue whatsoever. The PA video also mentioned lag on the flip cards in the recent apps list.
I also find this rather funny. Because Samsung included crappy software to look more like Sense UI, Sense's Blinkfeed must also suck like Samsung's?!? Sorry, no... That's just not a valid argument.
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Phonearena's got Samsung marketing all over it.
Your post sounds really biased/emotional...
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Oh the irony....
Sorry was pissed off after an evening of setting up new S5's for all my office mates. Was a frustrating experience. Especially since they wanted all thier texts and emails and all settings saved from thier old S3's ported to the new S5 and none of them are rooted with Titanium Backup. And I was just shocked Touchwiz still looked like Gingerbread era Androtd on a brand new 2014 model.
I tested a GS5 and threw it back after less than 3 hrs... It was SO frustrating coming from a One M7 and Nexus 5. I tried... And coming up later this year at FedEx Corp, the IT Department is getting GS5's instead of Blackberries or iPhones. Sell your FedEx stocks, everyone!
Even with a protective film, the images from the GS6 still look better than HTC One M9's crap... In HTC's defense, it is also fixing the camera software. But it seriously sucks at MWC. (I'm sure you will find some way to argue this...)