The Wii U is done

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elzeus said:
After seeing Sony's weak showing yesterday, I feel just the opposite. As long as they don't fuck up the next gen mario/smash bros/zelda/metroid they will be in a good spot. A decent mmo with custom action bars on the wii-u controller could really take off. It's pretty much Microsoft's generation to lose, but you know .... Balmer...(I have more faith in the xbox team though).
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Definitely want to see a console-centric MMO and how that'll hold up. There was one that was canceled on the 360 a few years back. I would have actually played it if they re-released it on the Wii U with the GamePad in mind.

I was looking forward to getting a Wii U this tax refund but will end up getting a PS3 instead. I'm going to hold off until I see the next Zelda and Metroid game. I'm still looking forward to Smash Bros. and "X" on the Wii U though.
 
This thread is hilarious. When the WII was announced it was going to be a major flop and single handedly kill Nintendo. Now the same shit is being said about the Wii U lol
 
zero2dash said:
You clearly are not getting it. :rolleyes:

The WiiU compared to the new consoles will not matter one iota to developers for another 2 years (if not longer) because those companies are going to port 360/Ps3 titles for another 2+ years - likewise, they'll port the same game to the WiiU with minimal effort because the WiiU is practically a 360 (albeit slightly improved). WiiU ports are cake.

Just because a Ps4 is out does not mean they're going to abandon Ps3; same with Xbox. Tens to hundreds of millions of people already own those consoles; what, now they're going to abandon those consoles and easy revenue just because a few million people bought a Ps4? Are you really that oblivious?

WiiU compared to new consoles - sure, when developers are no longer putting out 360/Ps3 ports, it could be a problem. COULD. The fact is, developers are going to have to water down games to port outside of 720/Ps4 and they already realize that, so in the end your point is moot. They have to water down for 360/Ps3 just like they'll have to water down for WiiU when they're no longer porting for 360/Ps3.

You're either trolling or thick; I can't figure out which and at this point I no longer care. Good day
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some will water down other will will just design for the ps4/720/pc and do the 360/ps3/wii u split development. the same happened with the xbox360 and PS3. however why would you buy a Wii U when you get play the same game on a xbox360 or a PS3. as less you love nintendo games, there is zero reason to buy a wii u over a xbox360 or PS3. that's thier biggest mistake, they aimed so low, there are stuck in the last gen.
 
Kenjiwing said:
This thread is hilarious. When the WII was announced it was going to be a major flop and single handedly kill Nintendo. Now the same shit is being said about the Wii U lol
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The Wii seemed like actually a fairly short-lived success to me...even shorter with "hardcore" gamers.

I got one because the price was right (actually it was a gift, but still it was only like $250) and there were some fun titles like Smash Bros and the motion controls were a new thing. I think I played it quite a bit for a few weeks and now...well, rarely ever turn it on. Overall it was not a great investment IMO.

Obviously it didn't "kill" Nintendo but I think it's still a sign of thier decline since the N64 or perhaps Gamecube.
 
The Wii was a success because of one simple fact - it was cheap. The Wii U is not, esp not with the gamepad controller which is its defining feature.

At a time when gamers were seen as 'hardcore', the Wii was marketed was a 'family friendly', cheap console with motion control which everyone could have fun with, without needing to learn games.

That market is now saturated. It was saturated years ago when Wii sales dropped off a cliff. And Wii owners don't buy too many games beyond the initial titles. Nintendo has a stiff battle - they need to convince people why they should buy this time.
 
ikarinokami said:
some will water down other will will just design for the ps4/720/pc and do the 360/ps3/wii u split development.
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Development won't be nearly as split as this gen, as PC, 720, and PS4 are all using x86. There won't be any Cell processor weirdness, just specifics for the controller, UI, and whatever gimmick peripheral each has.
 
Hopefully that means we'll see some better PC ports as opposed to the ports we've been seeing this last generation.
 
im gonna try monster hunter 3 when i get home. i bet you that will sell some consoles. and ill probably end up buying it
 
Dude Monster Hunter 3 has been out for a loooooooooooooong time.

If he means Ultimate...not out until March.
 
MavericK96 said:
Dude Monster Hunter 3 has been out for a loooooooooooooong time.

If he means Ultimate...not out until March.
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No, that IS what he means!
I just found they uploaded a new demo for it on Eshop, holy shit how did I not know!?
Downloading as we speak. It wasn't there when I downloaded FZERO last night... sneaky

guitarguy6 said:
Demo just came out for it but don't even bother trying it. As the OP stated the WiiU is dead and will bankrupt Nintendo. If he said it then it must be true...
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4 tha lulz :)
 
LeviathanZERO said:
No, that IS what he means!
I just found they uploaded a new demo for it on Eshop, holy shit how did I not know!?
Downloading as we speak. It wasn't there when I downloaded FZERO last night... sneaky


4 tha lulz :)
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You and your downloading. Get a job. :D
 
my bad i meant ultimate, im glad maverick is always around to help me be less of a failure hahah




yeah its out in march but the demo is out. :D
 
guitarguy6 said:
Demo just came out for it but don't even bother trying it. As the OP stated the WiiU is dead and will bankrupt Nintendo. If he said it then it must be true...
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that is clearly not what i said. what i said, is that they are not a major player this gen. Nintendo will not go bankrupt, they have too much cash, at worst they will become sega. if they lose money at the end of next year, as in the previous years, i believe they will go all software.
 
search back on the forums and i have always said, as others noted, PC gaming isnt dieing, Console are become PC's more and more every dam time they release one..

What worries me is how water downed games will be now cause everyone will just make for the console with limited options.
 
zero2dash said:
You clearly are not getting it. :rolleyes:

The WiiU compared to the new consoles will not matter one iota to developers for another 2 years (if not longer) because those companies are going to port 360/Ps3 titles for another 2+ years - likewise, they'll port the same game to the WiiU with minimal effort because the WiiU is practically a 360 (albeit slightly improved). WiiU ports are cake.

Just because a Ps4 is out does not mean they're going to abandon Ps3; same with Xbox. Tens to hundreds of millions of people already own those consoles; what, now they're going to abandon those consoles and easy revenue just because a few million people bought a Ps4? Are you really that oblivious?

WiiU compared to new consoles - sure, when developers are no longer putting out 360/Ps3 ports, it could be a problem. COULD. The fact is, developers are going to have to water down games to port outside of 720/Ps4 and they already realize that, so in the end your point is moot. They have to water down for 360/Ps3 just like they'll have to water down for WiiU when they're no longer porting for 360/Ps3.

You're either trolling or thick; I can't figure out which and at this point I no longer care. Good day
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Now he's slowly getting IT, after you broke it down for him ;)
 
Here are reasons why I think the Wii-U is dead:
-no BR player
-Tablet controller, with choices like ipad/droid tablets who the hell needs ANOTHER tablet laying around?
-weak hardware
-low 3rd party support
-rehashed mario/zelda -.-
-32gb storage? Even a 7 year old console had more than that... C'mon!!!

Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if we see Nintendo titles on the ps4/x720! If Nintendo was smart (and not want to screw Wii-U buyers), they would dedicate at least 2 years to the system and then start making games for $ony and M$.
 
agreed with all these points.. should have kept the wii-mote and focused on more powerful hardware. I'm not saying we need another PS/Xbox clone but they should have put the added cost into the hardware, not tablets. If people want a tablet they'll buy a full featured one. The selling point of the wii was price and the family friendliness of it, it's a system you could play with family, friends, relatives, etc. Actually it doesn't really matter that the wii itself isn't that powerful... because....

I've heard it mentioned wii games look horrible. Yes, when played with the Wii system. Actually, they share the same feature as PS2 games.. when emulated on a powerful system with dolphin or PSCX2, they look BEAUTIFUL.

Just having the same games play for the average joe in 1080p though would make a nice difference.. yeah the wii U can do that but not like the PS4/720 will, and the added cost goes towards... tablet controllers...
 
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i actually really liked the wii-mote + nunchuck combo and wished there was a 360 controller that was split in half. i mean, i've played video games all my life with a standard controller and not had a problem with it, but playing mario kart with the combo and my hands at my sides instead of in front of me was a pleasant experience.

its not anything ground breaking, but it would have been nice to see
 
zero2dash said:
You clearly are not getting it. :rolleyes:
the WiiU is practically a 360 (albeit slightly improved). WiiU ports are cake.
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Hilarious, but completely false. The CPU is a notable amount faster, and the GPU is 3x or more as fast, per the current info, as the 360's. That's hardly "slightly improved" that's massive.

Keep on doom-gloom trolling.
 
elzeus said:
After seeing Sony's weak showing yesterday, I feel just the opposite. As long as they don't fuck up the next gen mario/smash bros/zelda/metroid they will be in a good spot. A decent mmo with custom action bars on the wii-u controller could really take off. It's pretty much Microsoft's generation to lose, but you know .... Balmer...(I have more faith in the xbox team though).
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I agree... I bought the Wii U for the first-party exclusives. Third-party stuff is just gravy, and I can play most PS3/360 titles of note on my PC better anyway. I don't expect differently from the PS4/next Xbox.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
You are looking at all the wrong things here.
None of that matters, because in the end the hardcore is not the main buying public.
It's all about the games and price. Parents are still the #1 purchasers of video game hardware/software, so those that dont care for all that will go to walmart and see one thing... Price tag.

If anything, if people don't see a real difference between New Xbox and PS4, one of them will fail before Nintendo ever will.

You are focused on YOUR world of high-end.
The real world shows that you are the minority. Nintendo is failing right now because of one thing. No games. (and NOA, but thats another conversation.....)

Like I said before, it certainly has it's place in the market.
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LISTEN TO THIS MAN
 
I bet in a couple of generations there won't be any more Nintendo hardware. They will continue to make games like Sega, but they will be out of the hardware business. They had some good luck with the Wii and motion controls since it was a new fad and casual gamers flocked to it, but now it has gone the way of Rock Band and every other fad, and now we have Angry Birds and Temple Run cannibalizing the casual space. They are easily accessible on any smartphone and can be taken anywhere. Dedicated gaming handhelds like the PS Vita and 3DS will also be dead. They all ultimately depended on the casual space. Nintendo stalwarts who buy their Mario and Zelda games can only keep the company afloat for so long. Their IPs are decades old and the sequels are just slightly prettier rehashes over and over again. New Super Mario Wii U Star Plus III Go!

The only consoles left will have to cater exclusively to hardcore gamers, the type that likes glitzy graphics and high specs. Nintendo can't compete in this space. I'm looking forward to the PS4 and maybe a resurgence of JRPGs.
 
The main thing to look at, though, is how it's tanking in sales. Even the PS3 sold more during it's initial months for $600 than the Wii U, which is nearly half the price. Developers and publishers see this and it's a big red flag to stay away, especially now that the only thing on people's minds will be the PS4 and next Xbox.

The original Wii, by comparison, was a massive success. Can't really compare the two.

Of course we'll see if the low sales continue and I'm sure they'll pick up once it gets a decent first party game.
 
i think the real problem for nintendo this time around is that they can't fall back on their handheld systems to make up the difference. they dominated the handheld world for some time now allowing them to take a chance with a console.

just look at the gamecube for instance. though many of us really loved the system and games it did fail. sony's ps2 ruled that period in console gaming but nintendo ruled the handheld world. because of this they could compensate the loss they took on the gamecube with the success of their handheld.

but this time around that's not the case. smartphones and tablets now rule the handheld space and that's not going to change for some time. as i see it now they have 2 choices:

1. go the sega route and with nintendo's current list of ips they would probably be more profitable then ever before.

2. jump into the smartphone/tablet hardware and software market. if you really think about it the wii ui would be perfect for a smartphone/tablet. also most wii games would transfer really well to the touchscreen environment, just image mario galaxy on a smartphone/tablet, using your fingers in a similar manner to how you would with wii-mote.

but then again you never know what's going to happen. im surely no fortune teller which is why i stick with wait and see approach.
 
haze1er said:
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1. go the sega route and with nintendo's current list of ips they would probably be more profitable then ever before.

2. jump into the smartphone/tablet hardware and software market. if you really think about it the wii ui would be perfect for a smartphone/tablet. also most wii games would transfer really well to the touchscreen environment, just image mario galaxy on a smartphone/tablet, using your fingers in a similar manner to how you would with wii-mote.

but then again you never know what's going to happen. im surely no fortune teller which is why i stick with wait and see approach.
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I think you are spot on tbh, a Nintendo that is only software based would be vastly more profitable. Releasing Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc on PS4, Durango, Vita, ios, and Android would make a huge amount of money.

Could you imagine a Super Mario 64/Super Mario Galaxy type experience on PS4?
 
The Jaguar really did seem like a decent purchase at the time...mainly because they bribed several industry pubs to shill for it. Diehard Gamefan being easily the worst offender. They reviewed the first batch of so-so at best games as though they were Super Mario 3 and Final Fantasy 6 rolled into one.
I still resent that BS to this day.
 
Domingo said:
The Jaguar really did seem like a decent purchase at the time...mainly because they bribed several industry pubs to shill for it. Diehard Gamefan being easily the worst offender. They reviewed the first batch of so-so at best games as though they were Super Mario 3 and Final Fantasy 6 rolled into one.
I still resent that BS to this day.
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But it has 64 bits biatch! Do the math! :cool:

I didnt own Jaguar myself but my friend did and it really did seem like cool system. But then again only games he had were Syndicate, Crescent Galaxy, AvsP and Tempest 2000. But then again those were the best games released on the system before it finally bit the dust as failure... :D
 
MaZa said:
But it has 64 bits biatch! Do the math! :cool:

I didnt own Jaguar myself but my friend did and it really did seem like cool system. But then again only games he had were Syndicate, Crescent Galaxy, AvsP and Tempest 2000. But then again those were the best games released on the system before it finally bit the dust as failure... :D
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he shouldve taken one look at the controller and known better.


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dremic said:
he shouldve taken one look at the controller and known better.


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Dude, we were kids. After being used to 2 action buttons on NES and 3 on Megadrive, having all those buttons on jag controller seemed badass. :D
 
GoldenTiger said:
Hilarious, but completely false. The CPU is a notable amount faster, and the GPU is 3x or more as fast, per the current info, as the 360's. That's hardly "slightly improved" that's massive.

Keep on doom-gloom trolling.
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"the final GPU is indeed a close match to the 4650/4670, albeit with a deficit in the number of texture-mapping units and a lower clock speed - 550MHz. AMD's RV770 hardware is well documented so with these numbers we can now, categorically, finally rule out any next-gen pretensions for the Wii U - the GCN hardware in Durango and Orbis is in a completely different league. However, the 16 TMUs at 550MHz and texture cache improvements found in RV770 do elevate the capabilities of this hardware beyond the Xenos GPU in the Xbox 360 - 1.5 times the raw shader power sounds about right. [Update: It's generally accepted that the PS3 graphics core is less capable than Xenos, so Wii U's GPU would be even more capable.] 1080p resolution is around 2.5x that of 720p, so bearing in mind the inclusion of just eight ROPs, it's highly unlikely that we'll be seeing any complex 3D titles running at 1080p."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-wii-u-graphics-power-finally-revealed
 
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