My GTX 590 is bottlenecking my system

RaZoRbLaDeD

RaZoRbLaDeD

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After much thought and obsession I've come to the conclusion that the gtx 590 is extremely dissapointing and below the bar in performance...if you haven't seen my other threads then the low down is basically that I'm getting slowdown or low fps in games (even in wow I dip to 40 in town) or 30 on crysis...with a video card holding a pricetag of over 700 dollars I expected a lot more...I could see slowdown in maybe BF3 during heavy activity but the fact that I'm not well over 60 in older games like those mentioned above blow my mind....and I'm gaming at low resolutions no less....not even full HD ffs


So either my card is bad or I just expected too much, either way I guess what I'm really asking for is advice on what to do with the card...do I send it back to newegg? Do I send it to EVGA? I'm not sure of what to do as I've never had to return hardware...also, I'm thinking about SLIing a couple of 580s so that maybe the rest of my system can perform to its full potential in games and not be stunted by 1.5gb per GPU, etc...I really just need suggestions on what to do next and what not, thanks

Assassin 2
I-7- 3960x
128 OCZ vertex-3 SSD
16gb corsair vengence DDR3
GTX 590
800w corsair PSU
 
FPS out of any context doesn't mean anything.

Without monitor resolution and level of detail in the game as well as some system specs like cpu w/clock speed and system memory. Well not to mention is it in SLI mode?

Not saying your card is performing well. Just with out the rest they are just random numbers in the wind.

And yes, should I spend $700 on a GPU I would expect it to do wonders.
 
Really need to know what resolution you are using, and settings, to know if what you are seeing is normal or not. It sounds like it is probably just a driver problem. Have you checked with Afterburner and make sure the card is reporting correctly, is using the right PCIe mode (not stuck in x1 or something), that the clocks are correct, etc? Have you tried running Uningine Heaven's benchmark to compare with other 590s? In other words, have you done any troubleshooting at all?
 
I looked in another post and it seems he is using 1600x900......Which anything under 2650x1600 should be running pretty dam smooth with that setup.

I suspect an issue somewhere in the setup. Bad overclock, Hyper Treading issue, driver issue, PCI allocation issue.....There has to be something if your not rocking.
 
1600x900 resolution
All stock speeds, no overclocking in anything
Currently using nvidia 285 drivers

I guess in hoping that swapping it with SLI 580s will give me the pristine performance I was expecting with this rig...I can't think of it being anything but a bad card and if you've seen my previous threads you would know I've done everything possible in troubleshooting
 
And yes I've looked at the.clock speeds on EVGA precision...they're all running at the.correct stock clock speeds from what I can tell, and I'm only getting like 9300 marks in the demo mode for 3dmark 11

I've also run shit like cpuz and a handful of others but don't seem to.focus on or stress the video card enough to see anything worth while
 
Assassin 2
I-7- 3960x
128 OCZ vertex-3 SSD
16gb corsair vengence DDR3
GTX 590
800w corsair PSU


all of that for 1600x900? um I think its time you bought a big boy monitor.

and there is an edit button for a reason so no need for a new post for each random thought.
 
Boy are you overpowered

Even a GTX 460 screams at 1600x900.
 
A 30FPS bottleneck on vanilla Crysis with a GTX590 @ 1600x900 is most definitely NOT a video card bottleneck. Period.

Pretty sure I have a 280GTX lying around somewhere that maxes out Crysis at 1900x1200. (Or at least is so close it doesn't matter)
 
cannondale06 said:
Assassin 2
I-7- 3960x
128 OCZ vertex-3 SSD
16gb corsair vengence DDR3
GTX 590
800w corsair PSU


all of that for 1600x900? um I think its time you bought a big boy monitor.

and there is an edit button for a reason so no need for a new post for each random thought.
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I had an issue with my old one so I'm kind of inbetween monitors atm...the lack of performance and point still stands
 
It's just like WTF do I have to do to get the performance I desire...i know this machine is capible but I just can't figure it out...like I've said ive tried pretty much everything so now its time to start RMAing...and like I asked before for advice: should I send it to newegg it EVGA?
 
RaZoRbLaDeD said:
It's just like WTF do I have to do to get the performance I desire...i know this machine is capible but I just can't figure it out...like I've said ive tried pretty much everything so now its time to start RMAing...and like I asked before for advice: should I send it to newegg it EVGA?
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I would do newegg make sure you call so you get free shipping. Ask for faster then ground to, they will send you a brand new one back (should) Evga will test it and might send the same back. I guess if it clears there testing then should be fine.

That rig should be maxing a ton of games at that res
 
If it's under 30 days why not return it to Newegg? Well they will probably only accept exchange, or, if you complain, store credit, but still, store is always better than going to EVGA or whoever else, since they'll just toss you a sketchy refurb unit half the time.

Anyway, without knowing what is causing the problem, no one can just intuit what is wrong with your rig.

If the two GPUs on the 590 are both showing correct clocks when in game, and you have tried wiping the drivers, one can only surmise that there is some weird problem with the GPU or, much more unlikely, an electrical issue with your motherboard's PCIe lanes/slot.
 
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Seems like a driver issue to me...CPU-Z info is WAYYY off and unless the fan speed isn't controllable why is Precision reading 0 on the fan speed?

Use Driver Sweeper and clear all Nvidia stuff and re-install the latest drivers. Thats most likely the problem...that or something isn't right with the BIOS or motherboard...low PCI-Express clock or just a bad slot...have you tried a different slot?

Also while dual GTX580's would be faster you are certainly running too slow as it is. Your GTX590 should certainly be running faster than it is for sure!
 
Something is definitely wrong with the card. I can play 1980x1080 with my 570GTX, you should be getting like solid 90+ frames at 1080p
 
JoeUser said:
Seems like a driver issue to me...CPU-Z info is WAYYY off and unless the fan speed isn't controllable why is Precision reading 0 on the fan speed?

Use Driver Sweeper and clear all Nvidia stuff and re-install the latest drivers. Thats most likely the problem...
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^^ +1
More likely driver problem, your card runs at PCIe x16 and it down-clocks as it should (that's OK).

eVGA Precision shows the fan speed only when you select GPU2, because the tachometer is linked to that. :p

Try a newer beta driver, uninstall current driver, restart and do a clean install, don't install the unneeded stuff (3D Stereo, hdmi audio, etc), install only the driver and physx.
Make sure that SLI is working, that card should be a beast. ;)
 
People are too quick to jump to conclusions when symptoms of the actual problems aren't posted yet. No actual benchmarks or settings listed by the OP (saying 30 in crysis and later the resolution doesn't mean anything). Everyone can just guess and throw stuff on the wall and maybe it'll stick. However there's no real point to this. Just because CPUz read the gpu wrong, it's no big deal. Usually it just means the CPUz version is older than the graphics card.
 
This may sound dumb...but is there anyway your board could be limiting that pci-e slot to a low speed? 4x? bios setting?

I tried my 590 in my board's 4x slot for shits and giggles, I couldn't get over about 30 fps in bf3 and witcher 2.
 
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the iPhone 5G will have more resolution than what you have now :p
 
QuiteSufficient said:
This may sound dumb...but is there anyway your board could be limiting that pci-e slot to a low speed? 4x? bios setting?

I tried my 590 in my board's 4x slot for shits and giggles, I couldn't get over about 30 fps in bf3 and witcher 2.
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This is a good suggestion, also for "Power management" in the nVidia control panel, make sure it's set to "Prefer maximum performance".
 
Make sure you have the latest BIOS and drivers for your motherboard, and try the 290 beta drivers. I read something about issues with SLI on X79. Check evga for an update oon your card as well.
 
serpretetsky said:
yeah... i got kind of annoyed by this guy's different threads where he barely answers anything and leaves us all hanging all the time. I'm not sure why he started a new one.
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What more can I answer? Ive told you what drivers im using, my system specs, what settings im running at, and what my problems are, now I asked what the best way to get rid of broken hardware was...how is any of that the same?
 
xIronCrossx said:
Make sure you have the latest BIOS and drivers for your motherboard, and try the 290 beta drivers. I read something about issues with SLI on X79. Check evga for an update oon your card as well.
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Just got the 290s, about to try them out
 
RaZoRbLaDeD said:
What more can I answer? Ive told you what drivers im using, my system specs, what settings im running at, and what my problems are, now I asked what the best way to get rid of broken hardware was...how is any of that the same?
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1) In the last thead you PM'd some guy who posted a lot of questions. I dont know why you PM'd him, the rest of the forum would love access to all of that relevant information.

2) What happened since the last thread that suddenly your FPS is back down to 40-50 fps again? did you up all the nvidia settings back to max again?

3) Did you ever test your hard drive subsystem to make sure its performing optimally (you still have windows booting slowly right) (crystal disk mark for testing purposes, chipset drivers)

4) Did you ever solve the problem with windows aero complaining at you?

5) You ran 3dmark 2011 demo mode, was this with default settings in 3dmark AND default settings in nvidia control panel?

edit: im not very familiar with 3d mark 2011, so you'll have to bare with me, do you have it set on "extreme preset"?
 
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There are no specific detail on your benchmarks or what tests you've done to troubleshoot your issue even though you stated that you've thought about this a lot. You don't even have vram usage, how would anyone be able to answer the question you posed in the second paragraph in you OP other than pure speculation? Plus it doesn't seem like you've done any tests with the CPU/ram speed bechmarks to indicate that you know that your video card is bottlenecking your system, and not your cpu bottlenecking your video card. Just overall, there's no thought or process to your issues in your post; It just makes this thread another rant instead of actually asking/expecting help.
 
here's a post from tomshardware, does it look similar to yours?


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/324778-33-3dmark-score
I just ran the 3DMark 11 test on my gtx 590 (performance preset) and 3d mark told me my score was low for systems with a similar configuration. However when i googled the gtx 590 benchmark it seemed pretty much in line with what the found, im running the latest nvidia drivers, here is my scores:
3DMark Score: P8775
Graphics Score: 8888
Physics Score: 8906
Combined Score: 7854
GraphicsTest1: 39 FPS
GraphicsTest2: 40 FPS
GraphicsTest3: 56 FPS
GraphicsTest4: 28 FPS
PhysicsTest: 28 FPS
CombinedTest: 36 FPS
other system detials: i7-2600k oced to 3.9 Ghz and 8gbs of ram. Are theese scores normal or lower than i should be seeing?
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Had you done your research when you bought it you would have known the gimped clock speeds and high thermals of the GTX 590 made it a poor substitute for a 6990 or dual GTX 580's.
 
are you forcing any settings in your nvidia control panel? reset all settings back to default in your control panel if you changed any settings. certain settings can TANK your performance without any visual notice
 
Dan_D said:
Had you done your research when you bought it you would have known the gimped clock speeds and high thermals of the GTX 590 made it a poor substitute for a 6990 or dual GTX 580's.
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Or even slightly oc'd 570's :D.
 
Dan_D said:
Had you done your research when you bought it you would have known the gimped clock speeds and high thermals of the GTX 590 made it a poor substitute for a 6990 or dual GTX 580's.
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The 590 is a perfect substitute for both when you're after a quiet single slot solution.

And besides...this surely isn't normal 590 performance. Mine chews right thru Crysis (and everything else for that matter) at 2560x1600. I can't imagine how easy it would have things at 1600x900.
 
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