HP ZR30w

BK_201 said:
I'm now the proud owner of a ZR30w. All the lurking in this thread helped me pull the trigger. Thanks everyone. :D
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Nice! I have it since near 2 weeks and loving it!

I don't know if you already know a lot of stuff about wide gamut and color management, but there is a thread with a list of color managed apps by OS.
 
darkaura said:
Nice! I have it since near 2 weeks and loving it!

I don't know if you already know a lot of stuff about wide gamut and color management, but there is a thread with a list of color managed apps by OS.
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I'm going to calibrate mine with a Spyder 3 very soon. :)
 
That I will. I'm currently using a free calibrator in the meanwhile which is only passable.
 
Quick noobie question:

Since this monitor has no OSD or scaler, would it be a problem if I want to hook up my PS3 to it or link it up to a HDTV?
 
You cannot use PS3 with ZR30w. What does wanting to link a ZR30w up to a HDTV mean?
 
Sorry, I meant having the same display duplicated when I hook up the TV to my computer. So having the TV display my desktop.
 
ebolamonkey3 said:
Quick noobie question:

Since this monitor has no OSD or scaler, would it be a problem if I want to hook up my PS3 to it or link it up to a HDTV?
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No. You still can.
Vega said:
You cannot use PS3 with ZR30w. What does wanting to link a ZR30w up to a HDTV mean?
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You can. Using a passive Display port to HDMI converter would accomplish video. Or you can use a DVI to HDMI converter. Then the AV out from the PS3 would handle audio.
ebolamonkey3 said:
Sorry, I meant having the same display duplicated when I hook up the TV to my computer. So having the TV display my desktop.
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The HP is no TV, but of course you can use it as a monitor. You can have TV's acting as monitors as well.
 
It's already been proven here many times that a monitor with no scalar like the ZR30w won't and cannot except a 1080p/720p signal no matter what adapter you use. Why do people keep bringing this up?
 
Alright this bad boy arrived at my house today. How the heck am I supposed to adjust settings if there's no OSD? The brightness is blinding right now lol.
 
Now that I've had the monitor for a little while, the AG coating has come to my attention. It's more on the mild side I'd say and isn't that visible unless the monitor is displaying large amounts of white, just like others have said in the last page. Keeping an ambient light dimmed in the room seems to ease up the visibility of the grain.
 
Is it me or does this monitor have a greenish hue? Unless I jack up the brightness to blinding levels; the colors never seem to be quite right.
 
No greenish tint here. My whites were all very neutral even before any calibration.
 
Colors perfect on mine, no green/tan tint like my LG 30" had.
 
I just placed an order for on one of these. I've been running three 25.5" TN displays for Surround gaming, but I've gotten annoyed with the absence of true support in many games (FOV might be OK, but HUD is off; HUD might be OK, but fisheye is too pronounced, etc., etc.). So I end up running half my games on a single smaller monitor with mediocre PQ thinking about what I'm missing...particularly given how vividly my 54" Plasma shows everything out in my living room.

I'll keep one of the TNs, assuming it fits well enough on my mount, until I can pony up for a couple 20" IPS refurbs for flanking portrait mode. I'm sure the 30" will be great but the benefits of multiple monitors can't be denied.
 
Matrices said:
I just placed an order for on one of these. I've been running three 25.5" TN displays for Surround gaming, but I've gotten annoyed with the absence of true support in many games (FOV might be OK, but HUD is off; HUD might be OK, but fisheye is too pronounced, etc., etc.). So I end up running half my games on a single smaller monitor with mediocre PQ thinking about what I'm missing...particularly given how vividly my 54" Plasma shows everything out in my living room.

I'll keep one of the TNs, assuming it fits well enough on my mount, until I can pony up for a couple 20" IPS refurbs for flanking portrait mode. I'm sure the 30" will be great but the benefits of multiple monitors can't be denied.
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Just get 2 more then. ;) Just ask Vega.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1550706
 
What 20" IPS monitors are good for flanking the 30"? Dell 2007wfp is discontinued, and I don't think they ever made a replacement for it?
 
You wan't a pivoted 20" 4:3 monitor, so thats Dell 2007FP, and not 2007WFP. It can still be bought here at least. Not cheap though.

Other alternatives are HP 2065 and Nec 2090 (expensive).
 
brumwald said:
You wan't a pivoted 20" 4:3 monitor, so thats Dell 2007FP, and not 2007WFP. It can still be bought here at least. Not cheap though.

Other alternatives are HP 2065 and Nec 2090 (expensive).
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Yea, you're right. But at $400... ouch.
 
What do you mean by "pivoted" monitor? Do you mean that the stand pivots? You can get a 2007 WFP refurb for $150, so if the stand is the issue, you can use a mount. A single monitor mount should still be cheaper than the difference between 2007FP and 2007WFP.

e: Never mind, WFP is widescreen, FP isn't. It's not $400, though. $200 refurb on ebay w/ 6 month warranty.
 
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Got my new display, which thankfully works this time. :)

Gorgeous unit. Mine is flanked by two brand new 22" IPS - U221H and ZR22W, and the ZR30W's brightness makes both others pale in comparison. The extra brightness also makes the AG coating look less noticeable - or maybe it is just less coating, period.

All the brouhaha about Wide Gamut seems meaningless from my perspective (gaming, writing, web) - all I had to do to get a match with the sRGB settings on the other monitors was dial down Nvidia Digital Vibrance setting to 45%. Now web pages look the same on all monitors. Not that I really care; I may see if I actually prefer the naturally more saturated colors in games.
 
How are the black levels on this panel? I hear that the contrast is pretty average.

Everything else on this panel seems pretty flawless - no serious backlight bleeding issues to report of, no tinting issues, and uniformity seems pretty good. Input lag is awesome, although at the expense I suppose of pixel mapping. Colour accuracy overall seems pretty good too. It seems like a pretty good value.
 
So... anyone NOT have the brief blink-out problem? If so, which input are you using?

Seems like a bit of a major defect...
 
Since only a few people have reported their monitors "blink out", how does that make it the default camp and a "major defect"? I have 3x ZR30W's and I don't have any issues.
 
I've seen mine blink out a couple times, but that's about it. Not sure what was going on.

My main complaint is the hissing. At max brightness, there is a significant buzzing and hissing from the rear of the unit. It goes down when you lower the brightness a little, but it's still slightly noticeable.

Frankly, between receiving one DOA and hearing buzzing/hissing on this one, I'm not impressed with HP's quality control at all. Other people report that they hear buzzing unless they *increase* their brightness above 80%, so I don't know what the deal is. I remember that my Dell 2407 had a similar problem of hissing unless you increased the brightness...which frankly is a better problem to have than my issue of having to decrease the brightness.

It's not bothering me enough to return it, if only because I've strategically placed a speaker under the monitor to block some of the noise, but I will RMA it at some point.
 
Vega said:
Since only a few people have reported their monitors "blink out", how does that make it the default camp and a "major defect"? I have 3x ZR30W's and I don't have any issues.
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I wasn't referring to only people in this forum. You also failed to answer my question.
 
So... has anyone who's experienced the blink problem received a replacement that doesn't have it? I'm on my third unit. It's the best of the bunch, in that it doesn't blink as often as the first two, but it still does it. (The second one was a complete disaster... it not only blinked very frequently, but the image broke up when it did it.)

Nill
 
I just got my ZR30W (5 days ago), and, so far, no blinking or hissing problems.

It's flanked by two LG W3000H BN units, and, sincerelly, I can't see any difference in terms of image quality between the LG's and the ZR30W (but then again, I am no expert).

Something else I like about this unit are the two inputs (DP and DVI-D), as this allows me to share the monitor between my primary and secondary PCs at the touch of a button (the Source button). The LGs have a single DVI-D input and thus cannot be shared, other than using a *very expensive* DVI-D KVM switch.
 
rezonat0r said:
So... anyone NOT have the brief blink-out problem? If so, which input are you using?

Seems like a bit of a major defect...
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rezonat0r said:
I wasn't referring to only people in this forum. You also failed to answer my question.
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First of all, nothing in your post implies that you weren't referring to only people in this forum. Secondly, who would read what you are asking if they aren't reading this forum to reply to you? What does not referring to only people on this forum accomplish? Are people on other forums suppose to use extrasensory perception to come here to reply to your question? At that point, wouldn't they become people in this forum?

Thirdly, you asked two questions, not one. As I said before, I do not have any blink-out problems on my ZR30W's. As for the second question, all DVI-D. Fourthly, I've read many different forums that talk about the ZR30W. Only a handful or so of people I have found have talked about blinking issues out of thousands of monitors sold. You came into this thread asking a question with the presumption that the vast majority of people are having "major defect" issues, which isn't the case.

JcRabbit said:
I just got my ZR30W (5 days ago), and, so far, no blinking or hissing problems.

It's flanked by two LG W3000H BN units, and, sincerelly, I can't see any difference in terms of image quality between the LG's and the ZR30W (but then again, I am no expert).

Something else I like about this unit are the two inputs (DP and DVI-D), as this allows me to share the monitor between my primary and secondary PCs at the touch of a button (the Source button). The LGs have a single DVI-D input and thus cannot be shared, other than using a *very expensive* DVI-D KVM switch.
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I also had a LG W3000H set up next to my ZR30W before I sold the LG. There was a huge difference in picture quality. The LG had a noticeable tan/green tint to it and the ZR30W's I have in comparison have brilliant pure whites.
 
Vega said:
I also had a LG W3000H set up next to my ZR30W before I sold the LG. There was a huge difference in picture quality. The LG had a noticeable tan/green tint to it and the ZR30W's I have in comparison have brilliant pure whites.
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To me it seems more like a default color temperature issue (the ZR30W seems biased to 'cooler/bluish' tones, while whites in the LG seem a bit more yellowish), not a panel quality issue. As such it should be easy to correct by playing around with the video card color and contrast settings - not that I personally will bother, as I'm not a graphics designer and to me the monitors are perfectly fine 'as is'.

Apart from this, images are as 'vibrant' and clear in the LGs as they are in the ZR30W.

One of the LG's is about a year older than the other, and I remember noticing, when I first put them side by side, that the whites were a bit more bluish in the newer one. If that was caused by differences in the age of the backlight or changes LG made to factory settings between the older and newer models, I don't know.

Anyway, what I am trying to say is that if you are a graphics designer, then by all means compare the two monitors side by side before you decide which to buy. If not, don't bother, they are both *great* monitors.

I only bought the ZR30W, instead of another LG, for two reasons: I needed a monitor with a native DisplayPort input (as lots of people seemed to be having problems with the active DP to DVI-D active adapters), and I needed a monitor with two inputs so I could share the same monitor between my two PCs at the switch of a button.

In the latter aspect, the ZR30W performs even better for me than the 24" HP LP2475W it replaced: because it only has two inputs (DVI-D and DisplayPort), instead of multiple inputs like the LP2475W, I don't have to manually select the input port from an on-screen menu when switching to another PC - a single touch on the Source button does the job.
 
So... anyone NOT have the brief blink-out problem? If so, which input are you using?

Seems like a bit of a major defect...
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From what I have seen in various postings on the topic, I have a very strong suspicion that the "blink-out" problem is a result of the ZR30W losing "sync" with the digital display signal. In the early days of DVI, I had the same problem with various monitors and display cards. In most cases, the problem was directly correlated to display cards that used a "sub-standard" DVI driver (especially dual port cards that didn't invest in a discrete driver for the second port).

I would guess that the ZR30W is more sensitive to the timing/quality of the digital signal and users that have "less compliant" display cards and or cables are primarily the ones that are experiencing the "blink-out" problem.

FWIW, I have a ZR30W, and although I haven't logged too many hours, I have not yet experienced a "blink-out". I am currently using NVIDIA Quadro NVS295 graphic cards, primarily connected to the display port input.
 
I have noticed that the blink-out problem happens with my secondary computer, which has a GTX 260, but not my primary, which uses GTX 470s.
 
That may be true in part, but the thing that makes me think it's at least partly a hardware defect is that each of my three units has suffered it to a differing degree, and in each case it gets worse as the unit warms up.

Nill
 
Ended up buying and returning one of these. Had it connected to a MBP via DP and saw no blinkouts, FWIW.

It's not a bad display, but uniformity wasn't as good as any of the ACDs I've seen (which are far from perfect themselves) and the "extra" pixels at the bottom due to the endangered 16:10 AR were actually too far outside of my view to be comfortable (in my particular setup). The matte coating was noticeable but I've seen worse and could have lived with it. The main issue was the humming/buzzing, presumably from the backlight inverter, that was noticeable the instant it came on.

Overall, more expensive, noisier, less features and inferior uniformity vs the ACD was my experience.
 
Just got mine. Looks great next to my 2 sammys. It seems to have a very slight blueish tinge to it, but it could just be because I was used to my old monitors. No stuck or dead pixels. Bleeding is basically unnoticeable. Input lag isn't noticeably better than my 245BW, but then again I've only tried it online with my friends from the east coast (I'm in cali) so I wouldn't really expect to notice it over network lag. Doesn't make any buzzing noise.

Only "problem" I've had so far is that the default brightness was blinding.

The stock stand is really nice. It's not as adjustable as the samsung one, but it's much higher quality plastic and mechanism. The quick removal latch is a really nice touch too. Hopefully I can keep it attached when I move it to my humanscale M8.

I currently have it plugged in through DVI. When my HD6970 comes in I'll move it to DP. I'll report if I have any blink-outs.
 
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