I am holding a 6970 in my hands as we speak, However, NDA says I cannot tell anything of this for about another week.
Will leak information to the highest bidder
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I am holding a 6970 in my hands as we speak, However, NDA says I cannot tell anything of this for about another week.
Will leak information to the highest bidder
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I am holding a 6970 in my hands as we speak, However, NDA says I cannot tell anything of this for about another week.
Will leak information to the highest bidder
Not as impressive as the GTX 595 I have in my hands
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I am holding a 6970 in my hands as we speak, However, NDA says I cannot tell anything of this for about another week.
Will leak information to the highest bidder
One american penny, take it!
The nefarious schemer in me says that, if I'm AMD, and I have a soon-to-be-launched card that outperforms the competitor's just released products, I'd be leaking that information to spoil their launch. So is AMD just not nefarious enough, or are they not in a spoiling position?
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Or they just haven't done that since the HD4800 came out and spoiled nVidia's recently launched GTX200 party?
Here's Fud, saying it'll be slower.......Again.
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/21113-cayman-radeon-hd-6970-and-6950-launch-december-15th
But, at this point, who's really surprised by his shenanigans?
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/21113-cayman-radeon-hd-6970-and-6950-launch-december-15th
But, at this point, who's really surprised by his shenanigans?
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the same guy who stated the HD4870 would have 480 shaders and made passing jokes about GDDR5?
Then later deleted that "news article" after he was proven so wrong it wasn't even amusing?
You are forgetting the frequency of the chip
Lets say for argument sake the new hd 6970 has the same frequency of the hd 5870.Lets see rumors put the 6970 with 480 4d units, each 4d unit performs like a 5d unit of the hd5870 (which is what AMD stated), the hd 5870 has 320 5d units.
160 more units will be a maximum of 50% performance increase, that is if the chip isn't bottlenecked anywhere else.
Whats interesting from the hardware.fr quote is that he's basically hinting the 570 can have its price adjusted if 350 seems too high
I love how he writes that the 580 was faster than expected. You mean, a card who's specs were laid out a year ago that AMD expected?
I love how he writes that the 580 was faster than expected. You mean, a card who's specs were laid out a year ago that AMD expected?
Complaining? I'm not complaining. I am, however, mocking Fuad's silliness.
Yeah, 15-20% faster. AMD must have been devastated.......*cough*
They're a large profit-seeking corporation, so the former is out.
Thats the conclusion I take from this whole lack of info shill.
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They're a large profit-seeking corporation, so the former is out.
Really? cuz if they had a heap load of 58xx cards that are still selling, then releasing now would make them take a loss on the 58xx cards
I'm betting money on the leaks I have read about, claiming 20-40% speed improves when compared to a 580.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I have a 6870 which is performing at the same speed of my former 5870, albeit, I am not 100% convinced the image quality is the same, I have left that topic in another thread and I am not 100% convinced I am right either, its subjective, like the fact I have 2TB of lossless music, of most poorly recorded black metal that you can't tell is Lossless VS Lame VBR anyway...
However, I will say this, If 6870 can be the same speed as 5870 in most everything, except maybe 1-3 frames per second slower, or break even when OC to 1000MHZ on default stock voltage, I am BETTING not only will the 6970 be overclockable by 100MHZ, I am going to suggest that its faster than the 580 simply because it is a refresh and final optimization on the chip which brought us the 5870, And that was a revolutionary card. I know myself I have spent hours trying to find reliable leaked rumor information but there is no such thing. I have this card preordered, and I was in fact joking about actually having one to begin with.
However, the reasons for owning one now for me are less important - I sold the 27" Apple Cinema LED Display I had been saving to buy for sometime due to Color Uniform issues which were unacceptable to me, bought a Dell U2711 instead, which also doesn't have dust behind the GLASS.
Sooooo, Mini Displayport is not such a big deal but was one of the WTF's about the 580, Why doesn't it have the newest displayport? *Shrugs* anyway, This ATI Card better be worth the wait and hopefully better be out on 15th or 17th otherwise my return warranty for store credit is no longer valid and I am forced to sell on the street my 6870, So ATI, if you are reading this, (er: AMD), please hurry the FEH up.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I have a 6870 which is performing at the same speed of my former 5870, albeit, I am not 100% convinced the image quality is the same, I have left that topic in another thread and I am not 100% convinced I am right either, its subjective, like the fact I have 2TB of lossless music, of most poorly recorded black metal that you can't tell is Lossless VS Lame VBR anyway...
However, I will say this, If 6870 can be the same speed as 5870 in most everything, except maybe 1-3 frames per second slower, or break even when OC to 1000MHZ on default stock voltage, I am BETTING not only will the 6970 be overclockable by 100MHZ, I am going to suggest that its faster than the 580 simply because it is a refresh and final optimization on the chip which brought us the 5870, And that was a revolutionary card. I know myself I have spent hours trying to find reliable leaked rumor information but there is no such thing. I have this card preordered, and I was in fact joking about actually having one to begin with.
However, the reasons for owning one now for me are less important - I sold the 27" Apple Cinema LED Display I had been saving to buy for sometime due to Color Uniform issues which were unacceptable to me, bought a Dell U2711 instead, which also doesn't have dust behind the GLASS.
Sooooo, Mini Displayport is not such a big deal but was one of the WTF's about the 580, Why doesn't it have the newest displayport? *Shrugs* anyway, This ATI Card better be worth the wait and hopefully better be out on 15th or 17th otherwise my return warranty for store credit is no longer valid and I am forced to sell on the street my 6870, So ATI, if you are reading this, (er: AMD), please hurry the FEH up.
Really? cuz if they had a heap load of 58xx cards that are still selling, then releasing now would make them take a loss on the 58xx cards
True, a write down of surplus inventory would be costly. But AMD wasn't really pricing them aggressively after the 580 launch so hard to know what is up.
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What is happening? There seem to be some reservations in the 570 reviews pointing towards the release of the 6900 series. AMD was supposed to give reviewers a little more time with the 6900 then the week they got with the 6800 series. If the launch is the 15th, they should have the cards already:
etc.
Normally, one shouldn't put too much into this, but if AMD did give reviewers a bit more time (then a week like last time), a launch date at 15th should mean they already have the cards...
Edit: And here's from Nordic:
AMD Radeon HD 6900 series pictured, launches Dec 15
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...hd-6900-series-pictured-launches-dec-15-.html
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/12/07/nvidia_geforce_gtx_570_video_card_review/10Hardocp 570 review said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4051/nvidias-geforce-gtx-570-filling-in-the-gaps/16Anandtech 570 review said:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20088/14Techreport 570 review said:
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=22392&page=29Alienbabeltech 570 review said:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-review/21Guru3D 570 review said:
etc.
Normally, one shouldn't put too much into this, but if AMD did give reviewers a bit more time (then a week like last time), a launch date at 15th should mean they already have the cards...
Edit: And here's from Nordic:
AMD Radeon HD 6900 series pictured, launches Dec 15
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...hd-6900-series-pictured-launches-dec-15-.html
Hopefully, AMD repeats what they did with 5870, which surpassed the gtx 285 by almost 25%, and the 5850, which surpassed the 275 by around 12-15%. Though it's only a marginal difference in terms of memory, the 6950 might be slower than the 570.
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6900 series is a new architecture, so all bets are off. As mentioned earlier in this thread, Nvidia went 7800 gtx to 8800 gtx on the same process, but with different architecture. AMD CAN pull another RV300 out of their hats where both the 6950 and the 6970 beats the 580, or they can have a 6950 fighting the 570 and a 6970 fighting the 580. Due to the product positioning slides and similar, I doubt it will be anything less.
AMD is just as silent about it as Nvidia was around launch of 8800GTX, so its going to be fun next week.
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You mean Nordic? The stuff they posted is just bullshit.
Like how the HD6850 only has 800 SP.
And how the HD6870 only has 960SP.
Little fake leak slipup, eh?
Nah, not really. The 470 has 1.2 gb of memory, and was wrestling with the 6870. The 5830 has 1gb, yet struggled against the 768mb.
Regardless, the full specs still revolve around speculation.
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Edit: And here's from Nordic:
AMD Radeon HD 6900 series pictured, launches Dec 15
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...hd-6900-series-pictured-launches-dec-15-.html
FAKE this shit has been fake since the moment some crap Chinese website desperate for clicks posted it. Look at the freaking picture of the card. Read the number of the card on the heat sink shroud, it says 6870. Their reasoning is also way off. Barts is pin compatible with Cypress not with Cayman. Also the chart is fake, they don't even have the right specs for Barts...
If a sound byte was attached to that article it would have to be when Elaine told Jerry she faked her orgasms all the time.
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Yes Me! I'm also disappointed the GTX 570 only has 1.2GB that's because I'll be doing surround with the 3 Asus 23 inch 120hz monitors I have here now. I was hoping to be able to get 3 6950s or 3 570s and watercool those to use for a year and change until Kepler and 8900 series come out, Not likely now. Looks like 2 GTX 580s or 2 6970s. I need the prices to come down a bit though. With the blocks I need to get they'll cost me alot of money, more than I wanted to spend for only 2 cards.
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LOL! Thats true. I was too busy checking the specs for Cayman to see if the Barts were correct.
Its a shame though. Nordichardware have been a bit more cautious and checked this before. Seems like every site is jumping to get the rumors out first without checking.jeremyshaw
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Would MCW60/MCW80 with the passive sinks be adequate? Or do they just don't cut it anymore? (they are kinda ugly past 1 GPU...)Yes Me! I'm also disappointed the GTX 570 only has 1.2GB that's because I'll be doing surround with the 3 Asus 23 inch 120hz monitors I have here now. I was hoping to be able to get 3 6950s or 3 570s and watercool those to use for a year and change until Kepler and 8900 series come out, Not likely now. Looks like 2 GTX 580s or 2 6970s. I need the prices to come down a bit though. With the blocks I need to get they'll cost me alot of money, more than I wanted to spend for only 2 cards.
Not really, my reasoning is that the people that spend 1000$ plus on monitor setups are the only ones that need the 2GB memory buffer, and they will pay half that for a video card. It takes 2560x1600 or 1920x1080 in 2 x Eyefinity minimum to benefit from more than 1GB of memory.
The ones shopping for a bargain are more likely to run 24in 1920x1080, and for that 1GB is MORE than enough. Leaving out unneeded memory = lower power and cheaper cost.
Edit. I take this back, it will hurt them in high resolution benchmarks, and that matters more right?
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Thank god!!! there is still hope, cmon 6950!!
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Those are good but I'm looking for a full block not a gpu only block because of the ugly beyond 1GPU part. Even the one with the heatsinks look bad LOL
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Arrgh, I really need to know pricing of these things. I've seen rumors of $449 for the 6970 and $349 for the 6950 both 2GB with a possible $299 1GB 6950 later down the road.
I set my budget for a pair of $500 cards with a couple hundred extra in case they go up in price but I also want to get a couple of u2410s for some Eyefinity action. I've been waiting since the 5870 launched with this 4870 512MB because I wanted to see what Fermi would bring and we all know what happened. 5870 prices went up and by that time the boards with voltage control were all gone. The GTX570 looks pretty tempting at the moment but I've waited over a year and I'm not going to buy on impulse.
I set my budget for a pair of $500 cards with a couple hundred extra in case they go up in price but I also want to get a couple of u2410s for some Eyefinity action. I've been waiting since the 5870 launched with this 4870 512MB because I wanted to see what Fermi would bring and we all know what happened. 5870 prices went up and by that time the boards with voltage control were all gone. The GTX570 looks pretty tempting at the moment but I've waited over a year and I'm not going to buy on impulse.
LOL! Thats true. I was too busy checking the specs for Cayman to see if the Barts were correct.
Same here. Apparently I can't read.
Here's what Gibbo at Overclockers UK said when asked about stock of HD69** and if he would stack the cards in a pyramid for a photo.
Looks like we will see a hard launch by AMD soon.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=17954123&postcount=521
Looks like we will see a hard launch by AMD soon.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=17954123&postcount=521
I don't need a time machine to know that Lord_Exodia is going to end up buying green.Yes Me! I'm also disappointed the GTX 570 only has 1.2GB that's because I'll be doing surround with the 3 Asus 23 inch 120hz monitors I have here now. I was hoping to be able to get 3 6950s or 3 570s and watercool those to use for a year and change until Kepler and 8900 series come out, Not likely now. Looks like 2 GTX 580s or 2 6970s. I need the prices to come down a bit though. With the blocks I need to get they'll cost me alot of money, more than I wanted to spend for only 2 cards.
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