Got my Westinghouse LVM-37W3 37" 1080p display today!

just fyi on this deal, best buy has been notified of that... so be careful.. besides after my experience last night trying to get my deal on the 32 inch aquos, I am not shopping there again!
 
the dinovo ordeal with BB was frustrating enough (PMing) and no i did not end up with one...but now it does seem BBs are on to it. It doesn't help that all the ones in this area have magnolia HT and to seemingly have more and more anal managers. So anyways a big YMMV on that deal.
 
Anyone have a 8800GT running with this screen? Thinking about either getting that or the HD3870 from ATi.
 
Alright, so I'm one of the old people that got the SE from Costco back months ago. The TV is wonderful. I ran it at 1080p off my old Toshiba laptop over VGA and it looked amazing. I finally get a new laptop (Asus G1s) and now I can't get it to run 1080p. It shows up as a Westinghouse 37W3se, so I think I dodged the apparent problem that a lot of people had with the SE, BUT... I can only get it to go to 1680x1050 (same as the laptop's lcd). The Nvidia control honestly sucks... I've dug all thru it and don't see anywhere to enable progressive scan or raise it past 1680x1050. It doesn't even show anything past that in the compatible resolutions in Display Settings.

I'm not running HDMI yet, that cable + HDMI switch are on their way from monoprice... so VGA is it for the moment. Is there some issue with this laptop + VGA that I'm not aware of? Is it the Nvidia control panel?

Thanks everyone! ;)
 
@ milagu:
Well, I had issues before with my display. It was getting stuck at 1080i or 720p. All I did to fix it was make a custom resolution. In the new nVidia control panel, go to "Manage Custom Resolutions" under the "Display" category. So yeah, there you can make a custom resolution, as well as the Hz. Ok bro, hope that helps.
 
You will also want to change the scaling type to NVIDIA scaling with aspect ratio to have the graphics card scale to 1080p before sending it to the monitor. Then just make whatever custom resolution you want either with PowerStrip or the drivers themselves and it should take.

On the other hand, why aren't you trying to run it at 1920x1080? You don't have to run it at the same resolution as your notebook screen, at least if you're using Dual View or Single mode.
 
so last night, for the first time (temporarily), i unhooked my 8800gtx from my Dell 2405fpw and then into my 37" 1080p westy... OH... MY... GOD!!! It's so damn crisp... I'm actually astonished... I feel like it can't be any crisper... I'm not joking..

And, the Westy is much brighter than my Dell ultrasharp... (yes, the ultrasharp is still a nice monitor, but DAMN!)

i got the westy a few weeks ago and have had it up as my TV, and hopefully soon will replace my 2405fpw
 
g0dM@n said:
so last night, for the first time (temporarily), i unhooked my 8800gtx from my Dell 2405fpw and then into my 37" 1080p westy... OH... MY... GOD!!! It's so damn crisp... I'm actually astonished... I feel like it can't be any crisper... I'm not joking..

And, the Westy is much brighter than my Dell ultrasharp... (yes, the ultrasharp is still a nice monitor, but DAMN!)

i got the westy a few weeks ago and have had it up as my TV, and hopefully soon will replace my 2405fpw
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wait wait wait wait wait..... you've had this 37" 1080P TV Monitor in your room this whole time..... and you haven't had it hooked up to your computer??? eeeeeeediot :p
 
g0dM@n:
LOL. I'm just wondering how you manage to resist the temptation for so long.:p
The westy was probably like:
"Damn it, what took you so long? What's so good about Dell, uh, uh, uh, uh? Guezz, I should of fried your GTX for the miserable and painful SD channels you put me through. But worry not, BEHOLD, for I, would show you the light bitches. :p Hell yeah, 1080p mofo, all me, oh yes. Who's your daddy now?"
:D
 
Odin75 said:
g0dM@n:
LOL. I'm just wondering how you manage to resist the temptation for so long.:p
The westy was probably like:
"Damn it, what took you so long? What's so good about Dell, uh, uh, uh, uh? Guezz, I should of fried your GTX for the miserable and painful SD channels you put me through. But worry not, BEHOLD, for I, would show you the light bitches. :p Hell yeah, 1080p mofo, all me, oh yes. Who's your daddy now?"
:D
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Citizen86 said:
I didn't know the Westy was such a smack talker......
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hahaha...

well, i watched a DVD on upconversion last night on the westy... my dvd player can upconvert up to 1080i, and it seems that 720p unconversion looks much better than 1080i...

with 1080i i get ghosting and it really annoys me... with 720p, i don't. i'm not sure which device is at fault for that, but it's very noticeable.

also, 1080i hdtv channels on my cablebox also show ghosting, but 720p channels i don't think it does... i'm guessing it's the de-interlacing of the westy, right? cuz... when i played bioshock on the westy at 1920x1080, it would very crisp, responsive, and no ghosting to my eyes.
 
Someone please post real life pctures of this Display in gaming action. I would like to see maybe WoW, or Team Fortress 2 running on this. I am possibly thinking of getting this, and sell my Apple 30" Display to my Brother for two reasons;

I like the biggest size in front of me, to really put me inside the game world, and I am sure WoW would be breath taking, but so is my Apple 30", but aftre two years I want even bigger.

The Apple 30" 2560x1600rez is border line to run all new games at rez with highest options, games look nice but are hard to run smooth, even with my system in signature. The W 1920x1080 would be a lot easier to run ??


But would I miss the 30" Display crispness and high rez compared to a lower rez and bigger screen ??
 
Has anybody had to send their Westy's back to Westinghouse for RMA service. If so how long did it take for them to send it back??
 
I've had my eyes on this one for a while now and I'm finally in a buying position. Problem is that it's no longer offered anywhere locally so I'm stuck with either buying through an e-tailer and going for the luck of the draw, or getting the 42" Westinghouse locally at BB. Which makes returns/exchanges much easier.

So the question for all you 37W3 users (or the 42" for that matter). When the likely price difference between the two is going to be ~$200 and the sole intention for use is as a computer monitor, which one should I be gunning for? I'd rather the 37W3 because it has a higher DPI and therefore sharper picture at closer distances, but none available locally so I get the luck of the draw ordering online. Or the 42 from Best buy, where I may not get the top image quality, but do end up with more real estate and better return options... Arrrggh! I can't decide! :confused:

I see a ton of happy people with the 37W3, but am just worried about having to do any sort of returns! Any e-tailers that have good policies for things like this? (can't forget that extended warranty either!). Thanks!
 
Gaiden133 said:
Anyone have a 8800GT running with this screen? Thinking about either getting that or the HD3870 from ATi.
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Well I don't have the 37", but I do have a 42" TX series being fed by an Asus EN8800GT. It's pure bliss. :D
 
FrozenLiquidity said:
I've had my eyes on this one for a while now and I'm finally in a buying position. Problem is that it's no longer offered anywhere locally so I'm stuck with either buying through an e-tailer and going for the luck of the draw, or getting the 42" Westinghouse locally at BB. Which makes returns/exchanges much easier.

So the question for all you 37W3 users (or the 42" for that matter). When the likely price difference between the two is going to be ~$200 and the sole intention for use is as a computer monitor, which one should I be gunning for? I'd rather the 37W3 because it has a higher DPI and therefore sharper picture at closer distances, but none available locally so I get the luck of the draw ordering online. Or the 42 from Best buy, where I may not get the top image quality, but do end up with more real estate and better return options... Arrrggh! I can't decide! :confused:

I see a ton of happy people with the 37W3, but am just worried about having to do any sort of returns! Any e-tailers that have good policies for things like this? (can't forget that extended warranty either!). Thanks!
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I'd say in the end this will still be a personal decision. No one will be able to decide this for you... you may want to flip a coin, literally.

With that said, I opted for the 37" for three particular reasons:
#1 - (When I finish up my bedroom) It will be right in my face, and I don't think 42" is necessary if I'm sitting that close. I've seen others with the 42" and they're a little more distant, so if you're not sitting close at all to it, then the 42" won't be a bad choice.
#2 - (For me, coming from a Dell 2405FPW high-res) I decided that 37" 1080p would definitely be much sharper than a 42" 1080p. This also related to the reason above. If you're sitting farther away, the 42" will still look sharp I'm sure. If you're up close, you'll probably have a better image b/c of the DPI.
#3 - I got the 37" for $691 shipped, significantly less than the 42". Yes, I bought from an e-tailer (ecost), but if I never took chances, I would have never hit the deals I have when it comes to PC parts.

If you think about it, say you got a piece of junk from an e-tailer... it costs roughly $40-50 to ship the darn thing back with UPS ground and insured, so it's not the end of the world. When you're spending $600-$1200 (that's probably what you're looking at depending on a refurb 37" up to a new 37" or 42"), then $40-$50 is roughly 5-10% of your final cost, depending on what you spend. It's not so bad.

With making a tough decision like this, don't worry about shipping costs... it's nothing compared to what you're spending anyway, unless, you micro manage your budget.
 
use next day shipping. you'll pay less than the pain+aggravation of packaging things back in and securing it enough to ship it back.

my decision was simple: i want a hugeass screen and i wanted to watch a lot of movie/TV material and occasionally game. this achieves all those goals with flying colors. if you want to game-ONLY... i'd recommend the dell 3007whpf$*)(@#*$@# the higher color depth version.
 
newegg seems to finally be selling the westy 37 at the costco price of last summer at 800, though at 860 shipped it ends up being about 30 bucks cheaper due to no tax.

When I got my 42 TX it was selling officially for 1150 w/ coupon and tax it came down to 1062. Compared with the costco deal at the time thats about a 170 difference for including tuners + another 5 inches. Not a tough choice IMO (if only looking at westinghouse that is).

Currently at 990 w/ 10-12% BB coupon the deal is even better, and the price difference compared to newegg is a mere $55 (915 for the 42 TX vs 860 for the 37")
 
JediFonger said:
use next day shipping. you'll pay less than the pain+aggravation of packaging things back in and securing it enough to ship it back.

my decision was simple: i want a hugeass screen and i wanted to watch a lot of movie/TV material and occasionally game. this achieves all those goals with flying colors. if you want to game-ONLY... i'd recommend the dell 3007whpf$*)(@#*$@# the higher color depth version.
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I HIGHLY disagree with this. Yes, the 30" Dell 2560x1600 (or w/e it is) native resolution is most likely the most beautiful thing in the world, but you DEFINITELY (I don't care what anyone says) have to spend a crap load of money if you want to play the latest games. At that res, I guarantee that 8800s in SLI would have a very rough time giving you good FPS. I use an 8800GTX on a 1920x1200 monitor for Bioshock and it does pretty well, but definitely drops in FPS at particular moments in game. At 2560x1600, I'd for sure need to spend $700+ on an SLI setup to handle it sufficiently.

The thing is, if you're going for a monitor like that, and you're spending that much, you'll definitely force yourself to get a very good CPU+RAM+Video Card setup to match the performance of something with lower res.

It's too soon to game on a resolution like that... yes, it's an opinion, but i guarantee many would agree.

Even for watching TV it's not necessary... nothing with TVs, bluray, HD content of any sort will give you that resolution... only gaming, which won't even be handled at decent frames per second.

jterp7 said:
newegg seems to finally be selling the westy 37 at the costco price of last summer at 800, though at 860 shipped it ends up being about 30 bucks cheaper due to no tax.

When I got my 42 TX it was selling officially for 1150 w/ coupon and tax it came down to 1062. Compared with the costco deal at the time thats about a 170 difference for including tuners + another 5 inches. Not a tough choice IMO (if only looking at westinghouse that is).

Currently at 990 w/ 10-12% BB coupon the deal is even better, and the price difference compared to newegg is a mere $55 (915 for the 42 TX vs 860 for the 37")
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Wow... I didn't know the 42 TX could be had that cheap... at a $55 difference, I'd say it's a no brainer...
 
Well.. g0dM@n, I'd say your right, it probably will come down to personal choice. Flipping a coin is about as close as I'm going to get as to a real decision at this point. :p

Jedi, The Dell 3007 is a beauty, but I know my system can't handle that res. I've only got a single 8800GT so 2560x1600 is simply out of the question. I'll definitely have my eye on that in the future though!

To clarify, I'd use this mostly for gaming, probably no more than 2-3 feet away, as well as general desktop applications, movies, etc. The ability to read text at this distance is critical, especially coming from a Dell 2001FP and the Westinghouse 22W (whichever one was at the BB Black Friday last year) Due to my paranoia of dead pixels and screen defects (hey, it's a big investment for me!) I'd likely be getting an extended warranty. Though after a bit of consideration, I think there's a good way for me to figure this out and just get the 42 from best buy, try it out for a bit and if it does the trick, keep it. If not and I don't like the clarity or the sharpness of the DPI then I can return it and throw the dice for one from newegg, ecost, or whatever other e-tailers have them.

I've got a friend with the 37W3, I may have to take a trip with my box down there this weekend and try that out as well... :)

Thanks for the feedback, and keep it coming, once I figure this out I'll let everyone know how it goes and post some pictures!
 
no1's telling ya to game ONLY @a display's native resolution. displays DO accept several modes of input. you can play @19x12 until $100 video cards can support 10 panels worth of 25x16 resolution displays, etc. it's simply FUTURE-proofing yourself if you game a lot. we're going to scale upwards in terms of resolution when it comes to games. it'll continue to be that way for the time being. starcraft is still 800x600 or somn. now starcraft2 (similar to wacraft3) is going to be any d3d resolution (even 25x16). it's just the way of the times.

while w3 is definitely a monitor and you can use it for a variety of things, its intention is for users who watch HDTV because of the 16:9 AR. 16:10 is ok for multiple other gaming uses, but 16:9 is movie/TV-oriented.
 
FrozenLiquidity said:
Well.. g0dM@n, I'd say your right, it probably will come down to personal choice. Flipping a coin is about as close as I'm going to get as to a real decision at this point. :p

Jedi, The Dell 3007 is a beauty, but I know my system can't handle that res. I've only got a single 8800GT so 2560x1600 is simply out of the question. I'll definitely have my eye on that in the future though!

To clarify, I'd use this mostly for gaming, probably no more than 2-3 feet away, as well as general desktop applications, movies, etc. The ability to read text at this distance is critical, especially coming from a Dell 2001FP and the Westinghouse 22W (whichever one was at the BB Black Friday last year) Due to my paranoia of dead pixels and screen defects (hey, it's a big investment for me!) I'd likely be getting an extended warranty. Though after a bit of consideration, I think there's a good way for me to figure this out and just get the 42 from best buy, try it out for a bit and if it does the trick, keep it. If not and I don't like the clarity or the sharpness of the DPI then I can return it and throw the dice for one from newegg, ecost, or whatever other e-tailers have them.

I've got a friend with the 37W3, I may have to take a trip with my box down there this weekend and try that out as well... :)

Thanks for the feedback, and keep it coming, once I figure this out I'll let everyone know how it goes and post some pictures!
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If your friend's got a 37W3, what are you waiting for? Also, if you get the 42 TX, you probably won't be happy by downgrading your size... you see, a couple yrs ago I bought the Dell 2005FPW for a sick deal of like $430 or so. Then a week later the 2405FPW was like $780, also a killer deal at the time. I only bought the 2405 so that I could sell it and lessen the damage of the 2005FPW.

Well, what do you think I did after playing with the 2005 when the 2405 came in? That's right, I "tried it out"... rather permanently!! :) So you see... that's the tough part. I say try your buddy's 37" first... you'll def like it. I'm astonished at the quality.

JediFonger said:
no1's telling ya to game ONLY @a display's native resolution. displays DO accept several modes of input. you can play @19x12 until $100 video cards can support 10 panels worth of 25x16 resolution displays, etc. it's simply FUTURE-proofing yourself if you game a lot. we're going to scale upwards in terms of resolution when it comes to games. it'll continue to be that way for the time being. starcraft is still 800x600 or somn. now starcraft2 (similar to wacraft3) is going to be any d3d resolution (even 25x16). it's just the way of the times.

while w3 is definitely a monitor and you can use it for a variety of things, its intention is for users who watch HDTV because of the 16:9 AR. 16:10 is ok for multiple other gaming uses, but 16:9 is movie/TV-oriented.
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You've got a good point about future-proofing.... but... if you play 1920x1200 on a unit that is native 25x16 wouldn't you have that ghosting/fuzzy effect like every other LCD that is not doing its native res?? Or is there new tech that does an automatic downscale to still utilize 25x16 but actually running a 1920x1200 picture??? I'm actually curious to be honest... cuz that may be the case.

As a side note, you can easily run a game in windowed mode at 1920x1200 anyway, but that will end up using only 56% of your screen (just did the math).
 
why do you think your 8800gt wont handle that resolution?

ive been contimplating over monitor choices for my new box and ended up pulling the trigger for the dell 30".

I really wanted the westy 37 based on the price but in the long run i feel more comfortable with the dell. the resolution it runs will become the new standard over time and it will only get easier for the new cards to run it.
 
JediFonger said:
dell@lower res. won't be ghosting or anything. it was MADE to support a variety of stuff.
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damn... that's good to know b/c i didn't know that. see if i run my 2405fpw at any res other than 1920x1200, it'll look like poop... it's like that on almost all PC monitor LCDs that I've dealt with.
 
what dell are you talking about? the 3007WFP? that one is notorious for not having a scaler whatsoever, and only having DVI inputs. it only runs at 1280x800 or 2560x1600. Any other resolution has to be pre-scaled by the video card, and it won't work with anything but a PC with a dual-link DVI graphics card. No Xbox 360, no PS3, no cable/satellite, no DVD players, etc.

They are going to change that with the 3008WFP, however, which should have all the same inputs as the 2707WFP.
 
g0dM@n said:
Wow... I didn't know the 42 TX could be had that cheap... at a $55 difference, I'd say it's a no brainer...
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For me the total would come to $970 after the 10% and taxes. Washington state taxes are steep!

g0dM@n said:
If your friend's got a 37W3, what are you waiting for? Also, if you get the 42 TX, you probably won't be happy by downgrading your size... you see, a couple yrs ago I bought the Dell 2005FPW for a sick deal of like $430 or so. Then a week later the 2405FPW was like $780, also a killer deal at the time. I only bought the 2405 so that I could sell it and lessen the damage of the 2005FPW.

Well, what do you think I did after playing with the 2005 when the 2405 came in? That's right, I "tried it out"... rather permanently!! :) So you see... that's the tough part. I say try your buddy's 37" first... you'll def like it. I'm astonished at the quality.
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Haha, yeah I know how hard it is to revert back to smaller sizes. I have used my friends' 37W3, but not for an extended amount of time (or at the same distance I'd sit from it) anyway, that's what got me interested in it in the first place! Still, with only having a $100 price difference the 42 does seem like the better deal, though as I've expressed before, with the lesser DPI on the 42 I'm not sure how it'll look up close compared with the 37W3. I'll see if I can hook up with my buddy this weekend and give it a spin.

I'm thinking the best way to answer this question is to try out my buddy's 37W3 for a bit, then get the 42 from BB and try that. If I can't handle the lesser DPI of the 42, then I'll return it and buy the 37W3... We'll see what happens!
 
Hey all,

Thought I would follow-up 6+ months later to let you know my final thoughts on my purchase of the 42" westy.

I LOVE IT!

Best purchase I ever made; no regrets. My friends still cant get over how big and clear it is. I wall mounted it in my living room and I sit about 3.5-4ft away at a small 'hospital table' which holds my KB/mouse. When watching downloaded tv shows or cabletv I sit farther back at the couch, which is where the extra inches really pay off.

If you are cramped for space and cant sit far enough back from your display (aka throwing it on your desk), go with the 37. But if you have the room, go bigger!

Enjoy.
 
milagu said:
Alright, so I'm one of the old people that got the SE from Costco back months ago. The TV is wonderful. I ran it at 1080p off my old Toshiba laptop over VGA and it looked amazing. I finally get a new laptop (Asus G1s) and now I can't get it to run 1080p. It shows up as a Westinghouse 37W3se, so I think I dodged the apparent problem that a lot of people had with the SE, BUT... I can only get it to go to 1680x1050 (same as the laptop's lcd). The Nvidia control honestly sucks... I've dug all thru it and don't see anywhere to enable progressive scan or raise it past 1680x1050. It doesn't even show anything past that in the compatible resolutions in Display Settings.

I'm not running HDMI yet, that cable + HDMI switch are on their way from monoprice... so VGA is it for the moment. Is there some issue with this laptop + VGA that I'm not aware of? Is it the Nvidia control panel?

Thanks everyone! ;)
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The native resolution is 1920x1080... i don't see why you're trying to force 1680x1050 unless you want to dual-view (for whatever reason)
 
Morazl said:
The native resolution is 1920x1080... i don't see why you're trying to force 1680x1050 unless you want to dual-view (for whatever reason)
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He can't get it run 1920x1080 for whatever reason, he made that pretty clear. ;)

So I went over to a friends house and tried out his 37W3. I had to get pretty close (<1 ft) to see pixelization, so I'm fairly certian I could get away with the TX42 at a distance of 2-2.5 feet. Not to mention NewEgg killed their $200 off on the 37W3 so I'd be looking for it at onsale or ecost or something. >_< Gonna give the TX-42 a go as soon as I get the back pay I'm owed.
 
FrozenLiquidity said:
He can't get it run 1920x1080 for whatever reason, he made that pretty clear. ;)

So I went over to a friends house and tried out his 37W3. I had to get pretty close (<1 ft) to see pixelization, so I'm fairly certian I could get away with the TX42 at a distance of 2-2.5 feet. Not to mention NewEgg killed their $200 off on the 37W3 so I'd be looking for it at onsale or ecost or something. >_< Gonna give the TX-42 a go as soon as I get the back pay I'm owed.
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Kudos man...Don't let the suspense kill ya now!! =)
 
I've been thinking of getting one of these as a PC/360 display (I've got a fairly decent rig with a [email protected], 2gigs of RAM and a 8800 GTS so 1080p gaming should be fine) and maybe as a real TV. I'm wondering exactly how a Canuck like me can go about getting one though, since Newegg doesn't ship to Canada. After seeing that busted up Westy earlier in this thread, I'm kinda scared.
 
FrozenLiquidity said:
He can't get it run 1920x1080 for whatever reason, he made that pretty clear. ;)

So I went over to a friends house and tried out his 37W3. I had to get pretty close (<1 ft) to see pixelization, so I'm fairly certian I could get away with the TX42 at a distance of 2-2.5 feet. Not to mention NewEgg killed their $200 off on the 37W3 so I'd be looking for it at onsale or ecost or something. >_< Gonna give the TX-42 a go as soon as I get the back pay I'm owed.
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Under the right circumstances I can see pixelation at around 3' from my 37". Maybe you didn't give your 37" audition enough of a workout. I just don't think there's any advantage to going with 42". Even if they were the same price I'd go 37" because of the superior DPI and the fact that at 2-3' there's really just no benefit to the extra 5"
 
i beg to differ, although 5" is more noticeable in the jump from say 19" to 24"...the difference in area is a lot larger than you think at larger sizes. Look at a 37" at a local retail place and compare it to a 42", there is a noticeable difference. A friend of mine came over today and he has the 47"TX and he can definitely see the difference.
 
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